Fortin Amps ZUUL

I typed a long response and a glitch erased it, at this point I don’t care enough to explain it further a second time.

The G-string is NOT as you described and does NOT have two reduction circuits. It works EXACTLY as I explained, the gating happens in the loop and the detector up front tracks the input.


“Hello . This is Bill at ISP. To start from the beginning, there are 4 jacks on the G String. The ones labeled gtr in and gtr out are just a hard wire through . We take a tap off that signal and feed a detector circuit that reads just your dynamics off the guitar. The output of this circuit feeds a VCA (voltage controlled amplifier) which is the other 2 jacks dec in and dec out on the pedal. This is where you get the actual noise reduction.
The intent here is to have the guitar connected directly to the guitar in so the detector is tracking you guitar directly. This will allow the Decimator to perform consistently whether you turn on pedals or change channels on the amp.
The dec in /dec out path will be connected to your send and return on the back of the amp. This will capture the noise from your guitar, pedal board , and the high gain channels on the amp. This will require any delay and reverb effects to be inserted into the fx loop after the G String . The dec in/ dec out path should be connected first off the send on the fx loop then to your delay and reverb.
If you have any other questions , feel free to contact me.

Best regards,

Bill Blatter
ISP Technologies LLC“
 
:dunno: Well maybe mine is defective then.

If you hook it up differently than ISP tells you to, like I previously posted. It absolutely hits both.

I get no amp hiss whatsoever and it tames the feedback as well. You might be reading too far into the tech Mumbo jumbo. I have one, it does both for me.
 
Well man, are still wrong and I can’t teach you if you actually choose to fabricate reality. Did you read the information from ISP or just glaze over it because you think you are right?

There is no such thing as mumbo, jumbo, this is simple electronic science.

there is no such thing as “feedback up front, and hiss in the loop”. That hiss is also NOT “from the loop” but from the preamp tubes/pedals BEFORE the loop.

A signal chain is a straight line from start to finish. Unidirectional.

If you put the gate up front it will only gate what is AHEAD of it, the guitar. This allows all noise that is happening AFTER the gate to remain in the signal chain.

If you put the gate in the loop it will gate EVERYTHING before it, zero noise.

If you had a true understanding of that the g string wouldnt have you so confused you claim to know more than the people who designed it or tout connecting it in unorthodox ways.

This is what the g string does, it places the gate at the END of the chain to gate ALL noise being created and uses the smaller input signal via the “key” or detector circuit rather than the larger preamp out signal to track because this has better results.

If you use the larger signal the threshold has to be set so high that switching to clean will have issues with cutoff. By tracking the input that problem is solved without needing a second gate pedal, an elegant solution.

I am not sure why you can’t or won’t process this when the facts are right in front of your face and were provided by the people who designed the device.

I have done as much as I can to teach you at this point, if you still believe you are correct, well your loss entirely.

I hope for your sake that is not the case.
 
I’m not claiming I know more than ISP. What I am guaranteeing is that the G string gets rid of the amp hiss and the feedback. However that happens, I don’t care. If you’re telling me that it doesn’t your on drugs.

When I put a regular Decimator in the loop I still get feedback.

When I put a regular Decimator in front I still get amp hiss.

When I connect the G string I get neither. :confused:

If the Zuuhl can do that then great. Screw off with your pissing contest. If you don’t believe me go buy one, hook it up the way I do and see for yourself.


Edit:You’re

Also the reason I Connect it a different way is because when I connect it the way ISP tells me to I get this. Not cool, probably my loop is too hot. Science doesn’t always work.

 
Can you share with us the way you hook up your G String II ? Mine makes my rig squeal if I hook it up in the 4 cm like ISP shows in the instructions. Thanks!!
 
Starman22":3eke5frx said:
Can you share with us the way you hook up your G String II ? Mine makes my rig squeal if I hook it up in the 4 cm like ISP shows in the instructions. Thanks!!

Search for: Boss NS2 X pattern
 
So I grabbed one of the Zuul pedals that first day they came up for sale but I didn’t get to do any work with it until today. Freaking unbelievable! So glad I took the chance!
I’m using a GigRig Humdinger to split the signal coming from my guitar. Sending the isolated out to the sidekey input and sending the buffered out to a Maxon od808 then into the front of my amp. I’m running the ZUUL as the first thing in the loop. The control dial on the ZUUL is up at about 11 o’clock or just under. My amp master is at about 11 o’clock and it’s crazy loud when I’m playing and dead quiet when I’m not. No feedback issues. Quick gating with no weird little chirps. No sound coloration at all! Haven’t gotten around to trying it at 12 volts yet but it still sounds awesome.
So glad I made the change from the Decimator.
 
Oblivion DC":8jccjdjp said:
errrrrl":8jccjdjp said:
Thanks man!

Pleasure :rock:
RJM makes an isolated splitter/buffer too. It doesn’t have a phase switch but you won’t need one for what you intend.
https://www.rjmmusic.com/products/tone-saver/

And I remember seeing a post a while back where someone was trying to sell an Axcess BS-2. I don’t think they had any luck selling it. Might be worth your while to check if they still have it.


I have an RJM Tone Saver for sale if anyone is interested....

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=191148
 
mhenson42":2adrjwii said:
Oblivion DC":2adrjwii said:
errrrrl":2adrjwii said:
Thanks man!

Pleasure :rock:
RJM makes an isolated splitter/buffer too. It doesn’t have a phase switch but you won’t need one for what you intend.
https://www.rjmmusic.com/products/tone-saver/

And I remember seeing a post a while back where someone was trying to sell an Axcess BS-2. I don’t think they had any luck selling it. Might be worth your while to check if they still have it.


I have an RJM Tone Saver for sale if anyone is interested....

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=191148

Bump for a useful bit of gear. :rock:
 
DRC":1sassds8 said:
engage757":1sassds8 said:
PSA in case you missed it last time.
Fortin ZUUL Preorder is now Open:
https://www.fortinamps.com/product/zuul/

I have zero need for the pedal being discussed in this thread but I do want to know who the delicious tramp in your avatar is? Is that Taylor Swift's porn star older sister that no one talks about?


I actually googled "Insanely hot girl with massive tits", but a member on here informed me a few weeks ago her name is Ashton Von. :D

Fair warning, this picture does her a LOT of justice. She is super trashy and looks kind of gross in the other ones haha. :LOL: :LOL:
 
Believe they should all be shipped by today. You might check your spam folder. Been having issues with emails hitting spam filters.
 
7 Stringer":35nr4qys said:
Mine is on its way, got confirmation this morning!!!!!

Awesome! Thanks!

We have been trying to streamline the shipping process a little bit more, Canada Post integration with the website, etc. Now trying to get USPS integration done, and all that. At least the website doesn't crash from traffic every time a new product comes out now. That was such a hassle. :doh:

Really happy to see this amount of support for Mike though. He's a genius and a wonderful guy. Really amazing to see the following building up like crazy around him. I don't think either of us were prepared for the demand.
 
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