Dirty Tree Huggers, in here

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VESmedic said:
also…. Are you using real cabs or IR’s ? I’ve noticed this is a thing… my old two notes torpedo hated many pedals I used with my amps for whatever reason: another reason I got rid of it.
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You know what's funny? I have a Two Notes Captor X that I use and like quite a bit but when I was recording with the Recto/DT combo through it I was kind of battling with the tone I was getting. I couldn't figure it out but I eventually got something satisfying. Fast forward a few days after that and I used my line out of my De Lisle amp switcher with my personal IR and it was instant gratification.

I know you're not a fan of the Captor X but honestly I still have not found ANY loadbox/IR box that pumps blood to my penis. They all sound muffled and lifeless. Still on the hunt for the ultimate box.
 
PurityS.L.G said:
You know what's funny? I have a Two Notes Captor X that I use and like quite a bit but when I was recording with the Recto/DT combo through it I was kind of battling with the tone I was getting. I couldn't figure it out but I eventually got something satisfying. Fast forward a few days after that and I used my line out of my De Lisle amp switcher with my personal IR and it was instant gratification.

I know you're not a fan of the Captor X but honestly I still have not found ANY loadbox/IR box that pumps blood to my penis. They all sound muffled and lifeless. Still on the hunt for the ultimate box.
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I agree they are ALL a compromise for sure. But the two notes torpedo was the only one that gave me the problem exactly like what the Op Is experiencing. I don’t know why that is, it has something to do with the impedence curve in the two notes and how it “interprets” the signal coming in, but I definitely DID fight what the OP is experiencing big time with that thing, but nothing else. My driftwood doesn’t do it at all. I’d love to have a reason why it gave me so many issues definitively, but I don’t think I ever will.
 
It’s no grail. Just ok. Gotta take everything with a grain or 2 of salt around here…
 
Tone Monster said:
It’s no grail. Just ok. Gotta take everything with a grain or 2 of salt around here…
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It’s definitely more than ok, but I don’t think there’s a true grail. There is most definitely a reason why people rave about it with the recto for sure though. I agree with taking everything with a grain of salt around here definitely, but it’s definitely praised more than just here, and was long before it was popular here.
 
With the Dirty Tree (in TC mode), the treble control at about 8:00 is close to “unity” treble and the Bass control around 3:00 is close to “unity” bass. The treble control is designed to pretty much only boost treble and the bass control is designed to pretty much only cut bass.

If you’re going for a tighter but smoother sound, in other words a sound you don’t want loads of treble boost on to risk getting too raspy, clingy, or sibilant, but that you do want to tighten up, don’t be afraid to dial both the treble and bass knobs down to around 8:00-9:00 or so. That will keep your highs at about the same balance as normal but it will clear out a lot of mud.
 
If you're not tuning real low the TC Integrated Preamp and clones set up in the way folks recommend (bass on 0, etc...) will just suck all the chunk out of your sound. It's a great tool for making loose amps functional for folks tuning below A which makes sense since Meshuggah are the reason everyone cares about this circuit. And regardless of tuning they can be overly harsh when playing alone but make playing feel much more accurate in a band context.
 
BSRIAudio said:
If you're not tuning real low the TC Integrated Preamp and clones set up in the way folks recommend (bass on 0, etc...) will just suck all the chunk out of your sound. It's a great tool for making loose amps functional for folks tuning below A which makes sense since Meshuggah are the reason everyone cares about this circuit. And regardless of tuning they can be overly harsh when playing alone but make playing feel much more accurate in a band context.
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Makes sense.

Just another tool to use that may not always work. One man's holy grail is another man's junk, which is exactly how I felt with the 33.

I use 7 strings at the very most and with a good amp (in my opinion) you don't need anything like this. I certainly did not and sold that 33 faster than I got it.
 
I played it with 4 guitars last night. The EMG loaded guitar sounded best. The Fishman loaded guitar is unbearable, couldn't find a useable tone and made me want to throw my rectifier in the garbage. I'm going to have my buddy try it with his rev G and if he doesn't want it, it will be in the classifieds.
 
The 33 and similar pedals are also a fixed extreme setting which might be how you'd use the TC in F but having the bass and treb controls give a lot of flexibility. Its just a bax EQ with fixed gain and you def don't have to turn any control all the way in one direction. If you want to tighten things up just pull the bass back until its enough improvement. The bass shelf is at 100Hz though so it might be lower than the stuff that's making your signal muddy in the 200Hz range. I think boosting the treble is usually a better way to add attack for most players.
 
FormerlyKnownAsMaddnotez said:
Makes sense.

Just another tool to use that may not always work. One man's holy grail is another man's junk, which is exactly how I felt with the 33.

I use 7 strings at the very most and with a good amp (in my opinion) you don't need anything like this. I certainly did not and sold that 33 faster than I got it.
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I kept the 33 for about an hour. lol
 
Eh, I disagree on the low tunings only aspect, with all due respect. I just posted this today… doesn’t sound overly harsh to me.


Just wanna add, this was with my custom 24, which has pickups in it with a TON of high end ( 85/15s), and I set up my dirty tree exactly the same way I always do and i mentioned here. There is no loss of chunk here to me in the least, especially under 120 hz or so.

https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/xhYCddZQbbQzAppj7
 
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I think its all in what you're going for. If you want to go for Mark tone from a Rectifier like that then sucking all the bass on the front end out is definitely the way to do it. That clip sounds cool and obviously not all advice is going to apply to every situation. I def don't think of the TC as a tool for players in Eb though.
 
When I had one, I thought the best results were: adjust the controls to get the TC and DT modes to sound about the same, then switch to TC mode and dial in a touch more bass and a maybe a bit less treble.

It was easy to get really terrible sounds out of that pedal.
 
I messed with it some more last night and found a useable setting. I was pretty happy that I gave it another chance. until....... I had an SD1 and an MXR Badass OD in the chain, switched off the DT and stacked those 2 pedals. Made the DT sound generic and thin.
 
So the dirty tree works in some situations but not all situations and for some people but not everybody? How shocking! :D

I like the pedal when it works in the right situation and of course hate it when it doesn't work, just like any other pedal I have in the same circumstances. :bash:

I do keep my Fortin 33 as a paperweight on my desk to remind me NOT TO DO STUPID SHIT! For that is was worth the great deal I got on it used. :2thumbsup:
 
RockyStar said:
So the dirty tree works in some situations but not all situations and for some people but not everybody? How shocking! :D

I like the pedal when it works in the right situation and of course hate it when it doesn't work, just like any other pedal I have in the same circumstances. :bash:

I do keep my Fortin 33 as a paperweight on my desk to remind me NOT TO DO STUPID SHIT! For that is was worth the great deal I got on it used. :2thumbsup:
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Thank you for saying what needed to be said haha!

Exactly, it doesn’t work for everything, but when it works, it’s the best. For some reason, I don’t have these issues alot of folks here are especially with the recto. I mean I’m clearly putting up clips that, in my opinion sound nothing close to harsh or thin, yet people are experiencing those issues. Not sure why that is, but there is some gap here, and im not sure what it is.


@headlessdeadguy sorry it’s not workin for you man, can you post a clip or something by any chance? I gotta hear what you are experiencing because I don’t get this at all.
 
VESmedic said:
Thank you for saying what needed to be said haha!

Exactly, it doesn’t work for everything, but when it works, it’s the best. For some reason, I don’t have these issues alot of folks here are especially with the recto. I mean I’m clearly putting up clips that, in my opinion sound nothing close to harsh or thin, yet people are experiencing those issues. Not sure why that is, but there is some gap here, and im not sure what it is.


@headlessdeadguy sorry it’s not workin for you man, can you post a clip or something by any chance? I gotta hear what you are experiencing because I don’t get this at all.
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I am not sure why it isn't working on Rectos for some people. The first thought that comes to mind is volume. How loud are the amps being played where the pedal is not working. I find all pedals at low volume to be more harsh or less appealing (however you wish to phrase it) than when played with some noise. YMMV
 
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