What is more important to rock/metal tones?

[311boogieman]

The guitar or the amp?


I'm going with the amp.

Or would you say something else? Player? Pickups? Pedals? Plectrums? Production? Penis? Personality?

What you say? Doesn't have to start with a "P" I just got on a roll there

 

[Techdeth]

Definitely the amp . But decent pick ups are a must as well . Those 2

 

[thegame]

Practice

 

[RaceU4her]

speakers are 70%

 

[Tone Monster]

Definitely the amp . But decent pick ups are a must as well . Those 2

THIS. Single coil tele ain’t gettin there

 

[headlessdeadguy]

Picks. Seriously. I have to chose the combination of everything. The Amp, the cab, speakers, guitar, pickups etc. But you take the same player through the same rig? You’ll be surprised how much difference the pick makes.

 

[midnightlaundry]

It's in the hands. You are going to sound like you no matter what gear you play.

 

[Techdeth]

THIS. Single coil tele ain’t gettin there

Definitely lol

 

[311boogieman]

Practice

Very clever. And starts with a P.

So rock and metal takes more practice than say jazz or classical? Rhetorical of course.

 

[311boogieman]

speakers are 70%

I like your thinking there, but can you divide up the rest of the 30% for me

 

[311boogieman]

THIS. Single coil tele ain’t gettin there

I think a Jim Root Tele with a Hotrails pup into a high gain amp would def get you there.

 

[311boogieman]

I'm looking for your opinions on what the single most important thing is. That thing being specific to rock and metal.

Amp. Fight me.

 

[Techdeth]

speakers are 70%

I’d cab construction is even more powerful than the speakers . I have 4 different cabs all with UK v30s and they are drastically different. You would swear they are all different speakers in each

 

[RaceU4her]

I like your thinking there, but can you divide up the rest of the 30% for me

id say 18% amp and 12% pickups. i listen to clips i did years ago and some of them i couldnt tell you which amp and guitar i used but i can always tell what speaker. mics are a big part of the equation too, maybe even more than amps and pickups

 

[311boogieman]

id say 18% amp and 12% pickups. i listen to clips i did years ago and some of them i couldnt tell you which amp and guitar i used but i can always tell what speaker. mics are a big part of the equation too, maybe even more than amps and pickups

I like your thinking
I just think 18% is too low for the amp IMO
Let's not worry about recorded tones - just getting the tone out the speaker is enough for now

 

[ClintN667]

I would say a good amp and humbuckers. Although some people will surprise you. I saw Baroness a few months ago and they were playing single coil strats into fenders and jazz chrous amps and they were quite heavy

 

[VESmedic]

Performance. Always. The more I learn, the More I realize: tone is in the performance.

 

[Techdeth]

Performance. Always. The more I learn, the More I realize: tone is in the performance.

We all kinda sound the same when we switch amps because our performance does that . Then the brand of amp is like top layer

 

[MadAsAHatter]

A good drummer who can actually keep time.

 

[Tone Monster]

Performance. Always. The more I learn, the More I realize: tone is in the performance.

You obsess over signal chain stuff though big time. So put a percentage on it.