Mike Johnson, theocrat: the House speaker and a plot against America

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denialist said:
I’m confident that if you didn’t try to force men in women’s bathrooms, on sports teams, or make people use “Preferred pronouns,” no one would give a shit.
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so it is about bathrooms? That’s pretty weak man.
 
denialist said:
…oh, and hide “gender transitions” from parents or advocate kids should chop their breasts off and take harmful drugs.
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Alright well we’ve reached the point of pointlessness with this discussion.
Happy Sunday everyone
 
Aynirar27 said:
it has nothing to do with my own beliefs and values bro, that’s the whole point.
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Yeah, you’re dismissing the idea that women might not want a man that “Identifies” as a woman in the same bathroom, among others.
 
Aynirar27 said:
I’m not dismissing it. It is easily addressable and most every public building being built right now is addressing it.
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Well I agree that's a good start. How about LBGT ideology in public schools?
 
denialist said:
Well I agree that's a good start. How about LBGT ideology in public schools?
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LBGT people exist whether you like it our not. Kids are exposed to them whether you like it or not. and with the time I’ve spent working in school systems I can tell you most kids don’t give a fuck if someone is any of those letters.
And the kids that do probability leaned it from their bigoted parents.

The benefit to lbgt children if having it openly discussed far outweighs the benefit of hiding it from others
 
Aynirar27 said:
LBGT people exist whether you like it our not. Kids are exposed to them whether you like it or not. and with the time I’ve spent working in school systems I can tell you most kids don’t give a fuck if someone is any of those letters.
And the kids that do probability leaned it from their bigoted parents.

The benefit to lbgt children if having it openly discussed far outweighs the benefit of hiding it from others
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I’m not suggesting that people shouldn’t be polite or tolerant. And politeness and tolerance includes not calling parents whose beliefs differ than yours “Bigoted.” I’m highlighting the problem of teaching LGBT ideology in public schools. That’s not “Neutral.” It’s quasi-religious (At the very, very least highly controversial), directly contradicting your previous statements about the concern of “Religious” beliefs shaping government. I’m tired of certain segments thinking that their crazy ideas are somehow neutral or not subject to the same types of restrictions because they are supposedly “Secular.”
 
Aynirar27 said:
What if was a gay man? Don’t tell me this dude is not gunning for gay marriage.
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What if I was a polygamist today? Democrats and republicans are gunning for my rights. But I wasn't asking for what-ifs. I was asking how his personal beliefs will negatively affect YOUR pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness. Your post is presuming he will be able to remove the ability for gays to marry, and that is a large assumption.
 
denialist said:
I’m not suggesting that people shouldn’t be polite or tolerant. And politeness and tolerance includes not calling parents whose beliefs differ than yours “Bigoted.” I’m highlighting the problem of teaching LGBT ideology in public schools. That’s not “Neutral.” It’s quasi-religious (At the very, very least highly controversial), directly contradicting your previous statements about the concern of “Religious” beliefs shaping government. I’m tired of certain segments thinking that their crazy ideas are somehow neutral or not subject to the same types of restrictions because they are supposedly “Secular.”
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I don't understand what "LGBT Ideology" even means. Do you think schools are teaching people to be gay? Like it's part of the curriculum?
 
denialist said:
That’s quite a paranoid and self-unaware piece I’d say. It’s truly amazing the extent to which one’s biases affect perception of reality. At least Christians acknowledge there is no “Neutral.”
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You haven't been paying much attention to the outside world other than Gaza, apparently. Christian nationalism is all over the news these days.

"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."
 
VonBonfire said:
What if I was a polygamist today? Democrats and republicans are gunning for my rights. But I wasn't asking for what-ifs. I was asking how his personal beliefs will negatively affect YOUR pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness. Your post is presuming he will be able to remove the ability for gays to marry, and that is a large assumption.
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I'm not saying he will be successful at it, but I'm saying he would sure as hell try. I've yet to see an argument against gay marriage that isn't of a religious nature, and that is not their place. if you don't want 2 dudes to get married at your church, have at it bro. Marriage isn't a christian institution.
so like I said before, this isn't about MY OWN views and beliefs, it is about the country as a whole. And in America, being gay isn't illegal. (sorry)
 
Aynirar27 said:
I don't understand what "LGBT Ideology" even means. Do you think schools are teaching people to be gay? Like it's part of the curriculum?
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Yes, public schools are clearly teaching a system of morality around human sexuality that is opposed to the Christian view, among others. They are also reinforcing the idea that one can choose their sexuality, even though they try to conflate it with “gender.”
 
JohnnyGtar said:
Christian nationalism is all over the news these days.

"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."
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It’s all over the news so I must agree with a paranoid and self-unaware opinion piece about the new speaker?
 
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