So, how about that Alec Baldwin?

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311splawndude said:
^that's not nice

Alec Baldwin is back in the hot seat on fresh charges, after being dismissed earlier this year.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/2024/01/19/alec-baldwin-rust-indicted/

"The document lists two counts of involuntary manslaughter. The main count claims the actor negligently handled the prop gun. An alternative count says Baldwin caused Hutchins’s death “with the total disregard or indifference for the safety of others.”

Not sure how a prop gun can kill people but whatever. Forensics proved that he pulled the trigger on the "prop gun", even though he said he did not pull the trigger. He is the Producer of the film as well as the lead actor that obviously didn't check the weapon, I mean prop, before pulling the trigger.
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Well clearly it was not a prop gun. Personally, as much as I dislike Baldwin I think charging him is a huge stretch. You gotta assume that actors are not expecting guns used on a set to working firearms much less loaded working firearms.
 
Whether he’s found “guilty” or not, he handled the whole thing like an absolute pussy and he deserves everything he gets from it.

Fuck Hollywood if they think “getting the shot” is important enough to place a person in front of a gun. I’m glad no one goes to the movies anymore
 
Floyd Eye said:
Well clearly it was not a prop gun. Personally, as much as I dislike Baldwin I think charging him is a huge stretch. You gotta assume that actors are not expecting guns used on a set to working firearms much less loaded working firearms.
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As much as I can't disagree, Alec is no fool. He's been in situations like this before (weapons and acting). Anyone handling a firearm should check the weapon the moment they pick it up. Now, if the blanks look exactly like a real bullet, then this would be harder to tell - but I never read or got an indication that he even checked the revolver. That and he is the Producer of the movie, so I'm assuming things like location, protocol, rules, etc are somewhat under his control :dunno:


Stripped Rights said:
Along with the victim. AFAIK, protocol says that nobody should be behind the camera if the gun is to be pointed at it and fired.

Rules should be that ANYONE handling the gun should have to make sure the gun is only loaded with blanks, not just the armorer. Everyone involved right down to the last person handling the gun.
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Hey look. I agree with you :D

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311splawndude said:
As much as I can't disagree, Alec is no fool. He's been in situations like this before (weapons and acting). Anyone handling a firearm should check the weapon the moment they pick it up. Now, if the blanks look exactly like a real bullet, then this would be harder to tell - but I never read or got an indication that he even checked the revolver. That and he is the Producer of the movie, so I'm assuming things like location, protocol, rules, etc are somewhat under his control :dunno:



Hey look. I agree with you :D

Welcome back.
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I think that if he had reason to believe it was actually a firearm, absolutely. Rule number one applies.

When this first happened I was more than a little shocked. You'd think after Brandon Lee they would have learned. There is zero reason to ever have an actual working firearm on a movie set. Shit, Clint Eastwood did Josey Wales like 50 years ago and the guns he was carrying were props. With CGI it's a no brainer. No gun on a movie set should ever be capable of holding, chambering or firing a projectile.
 
Floyd Eye said:
I think that if he had reason to believe it was actually a firearm, absolutely. Rule number one applies.

When this first happened I was more than a little shocked. You'd think after Brandon Lee they would have learned. There is zero reason to ever have an actual working firearm on a movie set. Shit, Clint Eastwood did Josey Wales like 50 years ago and the guns he was carrying were props. With CGI it's a no brainer. No gun on a movie set should ever be capable of holding, chambering or firing a projectile.
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Bro.. they're all out there in the desert, smoking meth, trailers full of whores, shooting in all directions like idiots.

Real firearms mixed in with props.. it was bound to happen sooner or later.

:rolleyes:
 
Arch Stanton said:
Bro.. they're all out there in the desert, smoking meth, trailers full of whores, shooting in all directions like idiots.

Real firearms mixed in with props.. it was bound to happen sooner or later.

:rolleyes:
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Fucking dumbasses. The whole lot of them should go to prison.
 
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Floyd Eye said:
I think that if he had reason to believe it was actually a firearm, absolutely. Rule number one applies.
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That's just it. This Set had a history of having real guns and live ammo. Even well before it was even selected for the Set of Rust. Now take that along with the fact that Alec is the Producer of the movie. This Set was the one chosen. Then add in the fact that at least 2 people quit the production of this movie due to safety concerns. Then, supposedly, the night before this accident a "bunch of people", (Not Alec) were on the set firing off guns. There was also a rumor that this revolver in question was shot the night before. So it is conceivable that the revolver had another live round or two left over in the barrel and the armorer, nor Alec, didn't bother to check the weapon - hence a death. That's how I read it anyway. Blame all around but it all bubbles up to Alec at the end of the day.

But yes, otherwise I agree with you, actors should not have to worry about this kind of thing. That's why they pay armorers on movie sets.
 
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311splawndude said:
Yeah.

So case was thrown out?
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Apparently so - had to do with the prosecution withholding exculpatory evidence from the defense. Typical ‘Brady’ violation that probably happens all the time behind defense counsel’s back - but occasionally prosecutors get caught red-handed. Note to prosecutors: if you have to cheat to win, it really isn’t winning.
 
Too bad they weren't remaking The Outsiders.
Then it would have just been a switchblade.
Maybe even a prop one...
 
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