Terrorist Attack At The Crocus Concert Hall In Moscow

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acceptance said:
“Originally, handguns were only used for sports and competitive shooting, but have recently been allowed for the purposes of self-defense on an owner's property”

Russia gun laws Wikipedia
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"Gun ownership requires a license that has a tier system. You cannot immediately buy a hunting rifle - you need to have owned a smoothbore gun for several years without incident before such an upgrade can be considered.
Fully automatic weapons are completely forbidden. So are rifled pistols and revolvers. Cannot have a magazine bigger than 10 rounds. Certain caliber, ammo type, and barrel length restrictions also exist. The weapon must be registered with Rosgvardia, our national guard. Must be stored in a safe, inspected by an officer from Rosgvardia. You need medical documents proving you do not have any mental issues, and you must pass Rosgvardia's exam on proper handling and safety measures.
Even bladed weapons above a certain length and with a certain metal hardness value are controlled, you need the same license as for a firearm.
Only something like 4 million people in Russia own a weapon. Most of the weapons are smoothbore hunting guns and pistols. Rifled firearms are very few in number. The owners are mostly hunters, a fair few of them are Siberian natives living a "traditional lifestyle" - they have a special exception in these laws, as they are allowed to own weapons starting with 18 years old, as opposed to the norm of 21."
 
shar-vell Dan said:
Everybody here is armed to the teeth why do you give 2 shits what Russians have it has nothing to do with you ?
I thought guns were supposed to make you feel safe ?
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Maybe you ought to pay attention to the conversation we are having before opening your mouth. Nowhere did I indicate I give two fucks what Russians have. Are you huffing fucking glue or something?
 
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Floyd Eye said:
"Gun ownership requires a license that has a tier system. You cannot immediately buy a hunting rifle - you need to have owned a smoothbore gun for several years without incident before such an upgrade can be considered.
Fully automatic weapons are completely forbidden. So are rifled pistols and revolvers. Cannot have a magazine bigger than 10 rounds. Certain caliber, ammo type, and barrel length restrictions also exist. The weapon must be registered with Rosgvardia, our national guard. Must be stored in a safe, inspected by an officer from Rosgvardia. You need medical documents proving you do not have any mental issues, and you must pass Rosgvardia's exam on proper handling and safety measures.
Even bladed weapons above a certain length and with a certain metal hardness value are controlled, you need the same license as for a firearm.
Only something like 4 million people in Russia own a weapon. Most of the weapons are smoothbore hunting guns and pistols. Rifled firearms are very few in number. The owners are mostly hunters, a fair few of them are Siberian natives living a "traditional lifestyle" - they have a special exception in these laws, as they are allowed to own weapons starting with 18 years old, as opposed to the norm of 21."
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I get it, it’s not great. And while I agree an armed populace is good it has done nothing to change the totalitarian anti freedom trajectory here in the US. Sure, we’re not as bad as USSR or communist China, yet, but seem to be headed that way. China was first to implement the lockdowns for example, and the US did the EXACT SAME THING, and armed to the teeth bitch ass Americans went right along with it. They shut down churches FFS, I wonder if they did that in Russia. So I’m not holding out for 2A “patriots” to save us, but we’ll see I guess.
 
acceptance said:
I get it, it’s not great. And while I agree an armed populace is good it has done nothing to change the totalitarian anti freedom trajectory here in the US. Sure, we’re not as bad as USSR or communist China, yet, but seem to be headed that way. China was first to implement the lockdowns for example, and the US did the EXACT SAME THING, and armed to the teeth bitch ass Americans went right along with it. They shut down churches FFS, I wonder if they did that in Russia. So I’m not holding out for 2A patriots to save us, but we’ll see I guess.
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My church didn't shut down. EDIT: Much to the chagrin of other church leaders for not "standing in solidarity". You can't run a food bank if you are closed.
 
acceptance said:
I get it, it’s not great. And while I agree an armed populace is good it has done nothing to change the totalitarian anti freedom trajectory here in the US. Sure, we’re not as bad as USSR or communist China, yet, but seem to be headed that way. China was first to implement the lockdowns for example, and the US did the EXACT SAME THING, and armed to the teeth bitch ass Americans went right along with it. They shut down churches FFS, I wonder if they did that in Russia. So I’m not holding out for 2A patriots to save us, but we’ll see I guess.
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The only people that went along with it were democrats in democrat controlled cities. Day one the sheriff of the county I live in made a FB post letting us all know that this was the US and we would be following the constitution. None of that shit happened here. Now up in STL, yeah, but the animals have been running the zoo for over 5 decades now up there.

I wouldn't hold out for anyone to save you bro. I know I ain't. I will save myself. Or die trying.
 
Floyd Eye said:
Maybe you ought to pay attention to the conversation we are having before opening your mouth. Nowhere did I indicate I give two fucks what Russians have. Are you huffing fucking glue or something?
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If you expect me to consume all the garbage in this entire thread you got the wrong guy.
Literally as i heard of this attack yesterday it was posted here like withing minutes and 2 whole days later folks continue to be wrapped
around the axle that has nothing to do with them.
Its bizarre to say the least.
I have a life but thanks i dont hang out here. I got up this morning at 4a and went to work.
Im going to bed now 16.75 hours later. Just another average 20 hr day.
Goodbye.
 
shar-vell Dan said:
If you expect me to consume all the garbage in this entire thread you got the wrong guy.
Literally as i heard of this attack yesterday it was posted here like withing minutes and 2 whole days later folks continue to be wrapped
around the axle that has nothing to do with them.
Its bazarre to say the leasts.
I have a life but thanks i dont hang out here. I got up this mornig at 4a and went to work.
Im going to bed now 16.75 hours later. Just another average 20 hr day.
Goodbye.
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I don't really give a fuck what you do or what you did. I'm on day 14 in a row and have another 12 hour day coming tomorrow and 6 more 10 hour days in a row after that before my next day off. Big fucking deal. It's called being an adult. But if you're gonna run your mouth about what I care about you should probably at least pay attention to who I'm talking to and what we're talking about. I'll give you a hint. I wasn't talking to you and nowhere did I cite a preference one way or another what Russians are allowed to do.
 
Floyd Eye said:
I don't really give a fuck what you do or what you did. I'm on day 14 in a row and have another 12 hour day coming tomorrow and 6 more 10 hour days in a row after that before my next day off. Big fucking deal. It's called being an adult. But if you're gonna run your mouth about what I care about you should probably at least pay attention to who I'm talking to and what we're talking about. I'll give you a hint. I wasn't talking to you and nowhere did I cite a preference one way or another what Russians are allowed to do.
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14 days in a row on RT right Private Pyle ?

Time for some doghnuts ...

I see i distracted you from your "from Russia with love" rant because i didn't pile on with the gang about the poor, communist people.
I would bet you Pootin staged the whole fuggin thing as he lies as much as his communist mark DT.
Again 0.00 Fucks given. Im sure you'll be back at it tomorrow.
Adios muchachos.
 
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Thumbpicker said:
They support their leader or are too gutless to take him out... it's on them. Either rise up and take out that fucker Putin or be responsible for leaving him there.
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You said:
Floyd Eye said:
Anyone who thinks Russian citizens have a choice other than to support their leaders is retarded.
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Floyd Eye said:
For starters I wasn't calling you a retard fuckhead. Unless it is your opinion that the entire Russian populace enjoys living in a dictatorship. It was a general statement which you your self indicated many times here you agree with. Putin is a dictator. You said it yourself. And if you think YOU could succeed with this "Revolution" where millions and millions of Russians for just over a hundred years have failed, then I would have to amend my statement to reflect that you are in fact retarded. Is that your position, that if you were a Russian you would successfully overthrow Putin ?

Second of all, you are quite lucky you are underneath the world hurling epithets via your computer from 9000 miles away. No one ever called me a cunt to my face that didn't end up requiring medical attention.
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You think you are such a "bad ass" but I have been in more fights over the course of my life than you can possibly imagine. Easily as many as you would have been in.

You have my address. Come without your guns to hide behind. I'm not afraid in the slightest. I have and would fight anyone. Specially ones that call me retarded.

Who said anything about taking him Putin out alone anyway. Not many revolutions happened due to one lone person that I can think of.
 
Indications that terrorists attempted to escape to Ukraine after the massacre; Ukraine isn't the closest border to the massacre location.

will be interesting to see Russia's response to Isis; there was a recent attack by Isis on Iran, and their opposition to Assad is clear. CIA-backed Isis days may be numbered.

will be even more interesting to see Russia's response to Ukraine if a Ukrainian connection is made, however how slight. How would Isis operatives get that close to Russia's borders without assistance from other countries? Why would Isis terrorists attempt to flee toward Ukraine which isn't the closest border?

escalation time.
 
acceptance said:
I get it, it’s not great. And while I agree an armed populace is good it has done nothing to change the totalitarian anti freedom trajectory here in the US. Sure, we’re not as bad as USSR or communist China, yet, but seem to be headed that way. China was first to implement the lockdowns for example, and the US did the EXACT SAME THING, and armed to the teeth bitch ass Americans went right along with it. They shut down churches FFS, I wonder if they did that in Russia. So I’m not holding out for 2A “patriots” to save us, but we’ll see I guess.
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"2A patriots" won't do anything unless there's a direct threat to their neighborhoods, property, home and loved ones.

when you're on a sinking ship, you have three choices: try to save it, abandon it, or sink with it. Choose wisely.
 
rsm said:
Why would Isis terrorists attempt to flee toward Ukraine which isn't the closest border?
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Maybe because some of the neighbouring countries are puppet states of Russia anyway so they could be captured there and extradited.
 
Floyd Eye said:
For your sake bro I sincerely hope that's true.
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It's guaranteed. Be hopeful. I don't want to sound rude or like I'm trying to offend you but I had a much more vigilant mindset like you when I was a bit further from the things of the Lord. I'm getting older. The back half of life probably.. I can see the end of this life on the horizon, and the beginning of the next where none of this stuff will matter. I am still vigilant, but it is for others now more than myself I guess. A lot of being pissed at politics and being on high alert and wanting to sort people by beliefs all the time is kind of going out the door. I mean I still do that stuff sometimes but it isn't the same. Can't really explain why but I don't worry about it like I used to do. My burdens are lightened. Anyways, just some thoughts. Thanks for listening Floyd.
 
rsm said:
you mean all those NATO states on Russia's border? :D
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The closest country to Moscow would be Belarus with Putin's crony Lucashenko being the President. However, I know world geography isn't a strong point in the US unless it relates to far flung places like Arkansas so I understand the confusion.
 
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