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Wouldn’t that be the same side?

There might be some overlap, but the people who care about accurate information are crying censorship. And the people who have no dog in the fight are crying “police overreach” because that’s another trendy faux rage
 
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That is correct.
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I haven’t read it. Apparently other parents disagree that’s it’s accurate info tho.
I’ve never heard arguments that it’s inaccurate. Only that it covers (actual real life) topics that some parents are uncomfortable talking to their kids about.
 
@Aynirar27 - not purposely picking on you here, but since you are being so vocal about it I feel I need to address all of this. If I don't respond again today, it just means I have better things to do (ie. I'm leaving for a BBQ/pool party soon).

Maybe you should ask someone who has hired them to perform? They don’t just show up at schools and libraries, they are hired and requested to be there.
They aren’t imposing on anyone even remotely unwilling to see them.

It’s been a program for almost 10 years, it’s just the cool new thing to up in arms about at the moment.
1. I know they don't just show up to schools - that is insulting to even say that. I don't want to ask the people doing the hiring. They are the biggest part of the problem imo. More so maybe then the drag queens themselves. As an adult, if I was a drag queen, I would refuse to 'perform' or read 'gender bending' books to little kids. Their brains are not fully developed. It is an adult topic. 18 should be the minimum for this (along with drugs, alcohol, smokes, military duty, abortions, changing genders, etc.). I know you see it as cosplay - whatever the fuck that is but it is just wrong.

2. Are you saying these kids are old enough to make a decision on whether or not they want to watch a drag performance? Based on some of the pics and vids I've seen, some of these kids look traumatized, or at the least, very confused.

3. In my opinion, (note how I said that), it is not the "cool new thing". It is another element of many factors contributing to the fall of man.


I imagine most of them are. What’s wrong with that?

I know it’s not really your bag, but a lot of people make a distinction between gender and sex. Drag is more of a dialogue on gender roles than it is about sex in the sense of lust and whatnot
1. Why would you say "most of them are" when you have repeatedly accused some of us as conflating doing drag with being gay?

2. Your description of gender roles vs lust for sex may be the most intelligent description you've made on this topic, so I recognize that. I also agree with you somewhat on the motive. Unfortunately, for me, dressing up as a woman and speaking like a women with your beard and chest hair sticking out - has a sexual element to it. If' I'm the only one who sees it that way then so be it. Again, adult to adult - I don't give af. Kids....no.


I’m not saying any of you guys are doing it, but there have been several bomb threats called in to libraries to try and stop these events. It has happened all over the country. This shit isn’t about keeping the children safe
That is wrong in any book at any level IMO.


But even so, I can’t imagine for a second that every single kid in the class didn’t have their parents sign off on it
But does the "kid in the class", actually, "have their parents sign off"? Seriously?

"Mommy, can I have your permission to go to Drag Queen Story Hour on Wednesday. It is the next cool thing and I like seeing guys dress up like girls and tell us stories? Maybe this time I can sit in their lap too."


I loved school lol. Thankfully my daughters do too.
Actually a middle school in my county is in the middle of a minor scandal because of a “queer” book. A butthurt parent called the police about it instead of the school and now it’s a shitshow for no reason. Another example of the detractors making it worse for everyone.
Here is where a little sympathy for the other point of view might serve you well. I've always done my best to keep it civil. That "butthurt" parent has an opinion. Just like you do. Just like I do. Maybe they didn't want their kid anywhere near that. Maybe they tried taking it up with school first and it fell on deaf ears? Maybe felt pushed against a wall, or being out of options?

PS: I generally have good memories from K thru 12, but admittedly, there were some weird fuckos at my middle school. It was not until I got older did I realize what pervs some of these 'men' were. Nothing toward me directly, but certainly toward girls in my class. If it was legal I'd go hunt them down.


It was that “gender queer” book all the Karens are up in arms about. Unfortunately it wasn’t even there, it was just some parent being a cunt.
The police received the call so they had to investigate. The officer showed up after students had left, in plain clothes, and asked the library if they had the book. They said no, and he left. That was it.

Now it’s a shitshow with one side crying “police overreach” and the other side crying “censorship” when in reality not a fucking thing actually happened aside from a parent not being able to deal with their kid maybe being gay
1. Again, using words like 'Karens' and 'cunt' are not helping. That actually pushes me away from your point of view even further. They have rights to opinions and speaking up about what their kids see in school. The school said the book was not there, but how do we know they didn't remove it after initial questioning? Are you 100% sure the kid didn't see it in the library? Are you sure the parents made that story up?

2. Again, so the parent suspected their kid was gay and so they called the police and made up a story about a book in the library that caused the kid to be gay?

Just trying to follow the logic. Have a great weekend Dan. :cheers:
 
I’ll do my best to clarify.


@Aynirar27 - not purposely picking on you here, but since you are being so vocal about it I feel I need to address all of this. If I don't respond again today, it just means I have better things to do (ie. I'm leaving for a BBQ/pool party soon).


1. I know they don't just show up to schools - that is insulting to even say that. I don't want to ask the people doing the hiring. They are the biggest part of the problem imo. More so maybe then the drag queens themselves. As an adult, if I was a drag queen, I would refuse to 'perform' or read 'gender bending' books to little kids. Their brains are not fully developed. It is an adult topic. 18 should be the minimum for this (along with drugs, alcohol, smokes, military duty, abortions, changing genders, etc.). I know you see it as cosplay - whatever the fuck that is but it is just wrong.

2. Are you saying these kids are old enough to make a decision on whether or not they want to watch a drag performance? Based on some of the pics and vids I've seen, some of these kids look traumatized, or at the least, very confused.

The kids don’t make the decisions, the parents do. It’s impossible to keep kids from something that may confuse or “traumatize” them. My oldest was “traumatized” by a skeleton cartoon they watched in school one Halloween. Do we ban Halloween now? I had to pick her up from school because she was crying. I asked her about it a few minutes ago and she doesn’t even remember it. What I’m saying is, this shit isn’t traumatizing for anyone. If I kid doesn’t like it, hopefully their parents don’t send them to another one. But that is up the parents and child to work out, no one else.

You see it as strictly and adult topic, I do not. I see it as a performance and you see it as a lifestyle. That’s why the choice to participate is important.

1. Why would you say "most of them are" when you have repeatedly accused some of us as conflating doing drag with being gay?

2. Your description of gender roles vs lust for sex may be the most intelligent description you've made on this topic, so I recognize that. I also agree with you somewhat on the motive. Unfortunately, for me, dressing up as a woman and speaking like a women with your beard and chest hair sticking out - has a sexual element to it. If' I'm the only one who sees it that way then so be it. Again, adult to adult - I don't give af. Kids....no.

They are mostly gay for sure. I don’t have a problem with people conflating it with being gay. Trans, yes. But I bring up being gay as what I believe the baseline issue is with the detractors. The common theme seems to be if a gay person does something it’s wrong or grooming, but if I straight person does the same thing, it’s perfectly acceptable. I think that is antiquated and the next couple decades is gonna be a rough time for those people. The message isn’t “doing drag is fun, you should do it too” it’s “some people do drag and we are fun too”.

Kids this age have no concept of “sex” in the sexual sense. They don’t see relationships as sexual. They just see it as mommy and daddy, or “Sarah has two mommies” it’s not very confusing to them because they haven’t grown up in a world with people telling them two mommies is wrong. They just see them as parents, because that’s what they are.

Adults are he only ones making it sexual.

But does the "kid in the class", actually, "have their parents sign off"? Seriously?

"Mommy, can I have your permission to go to Drag Queen Story Hour on Wednesday. It is the next cool thing and I like seeing guys dress up like girls and tell us stories? Maybe this time I can sit in their lap too."



Here is where a little sympathy for the other point of view might serve you well. I've always done my best to keep it civil. That "butthurt" parent has an opinion. Just like you do. Just like I do. Maybe they didn't want their kid anywhere near that. Maybe they tried taking it up with school first and it fell on deaf ears? Maybe felt pushed against a wall, or being out of options?

PS: I generally have good memories from K thru 12, but admittedly, there were some weird fuckos at my middle school. It was not until I got older did I realize what pervs some of these 'men' were. Nothing toward me directly, but certainly toward girls in my class. If it was legal I'd go hunt them down.



1. Again, using words like 'Karens' and 'cunt' are not helping. That actually pushes me away from your point of view even further. They have rights to opinions and speaking up about what their kids see in school. The school said the book was not there, but how do we know they didn't remove it after initial questioning? Are you 100% sure the kid didn't see it in the library? Are you sure the parents made that story up?

2. Again, so the parent suspected their kid was gay and so they called the police and made up a story about a book in the library that caused the kid to be gay?

Just trying to follow the logic. Have a great weekend Dan. :cheers:

If it is anything like my kid’s school, then yes the parents have to actually sign off on it. I’ve signed off on a slew of completely innocuous things because public schools have to cover their ass nonstop.

And I called that lady a Karen because there is a proper way to make her voice heard about the school, and that is contacting the school. It is not contacting the police. She contacted the police because she knew they would have to investigate it, and frankly that is not what they should waste their time doing. She went around the school to cause a stir, and it worked. And that’s why she’s a cunt. Now the whole town has to deal with her shit because she didn’t want to simply show up at school meeting, or talk to the superintendent. She wanted to be a faceless shmuck and call the police.


I was making a leap of faith saying that her kid might be gay. But that is the reason the book exists. Kids have questions. Some of those kids have parents that won’t answer them, so the kids take it upon themselves to get the information.

I’m sure the book actually was there at some point, but it wasn’t the school that introduced to the curriculum. They keep records of that stuff. The officer simply went to the school to follow up on a call and get information. The information was that the book wasn’t there. Case closed.
I’m confident that the school is telling the truth because it wouldn’t be illegal to have the book there. They have no reason to hide it. I believe the book is in the highschool though, where hopefully it stays.


The common theme here is the parents. I think this whole issue comes down to parents who don’t want to parent. They would rather shield their children from something than explaining it to them. It is almost guaranteed all of their kids will grow up with another kid who is gay, or confused, or anything else that you guys are considering taboo, and the parents have the opportunity to help guide their own children through the waters. Those that ignore it, will have kids figure it out themselves, and that road is often much longer and harder for them.
 
The common theme seems to be if a gay person does something it’s wrong or grooming, but if I straight person does the same thing, it’s perfectly acceptable.
That's not true, I told you before that I would have a problem with straight people feeling the need to do outreach for kids, highlighting their "gender identity" or sexual orientation and wearing provocative clothes while doing so. It's just weird and inappropriate, regardless who does it.
 
I’m confident that the school is telling the truth because it wouldn’t be illegal to have the book there. They have no reason to hide it. I believe the book is in the highschool though, where hopefully it stays.
Is their any material at all that you would consider inappropriate for children?
 
it’s not very confusing to them because they haven’t grown up in a world with people telling them two mommies is wrong. They just see them as parents, because that’s what they are
I suppose you could use the term loosely. But if the child has two "mommies" what signifies the one that gave birth, breastfeed and so on? Does that matter or no?
 
Now the whole town has to deal with her shit because she didn’t want to simply show up at school meeting, or talk to the superintendent.
I thought you said the police went and case close, book not there. What other shit? ...weren't parents getting put on FBI lists and otherwise harassed for voicing dissent at these meetings?
 
I was making a leap of faith saying that her kid might be gay. But that is the reason the book exists. Kids have questions. Some of those kids have parents that won’t answer them, so the kids take it upon themselves to get the information.
What information? It seems that you consider your own perspective on the matter as absolute. Do you feel it is the school's job to correct a parents mistaken belief?
 
That's not true, I told you before that I would have a problem with straight people feeling the need to do outreach for kids, highlighting their "gender identity" or sexual orientation and wearing provocative clothes while doing so. It's just weird and inappropriate, regardless who does it.
The idea that you need to educate kids on sexuality in a public school setting at all is completely ludicrous. One more reason I don't believe in public education.
 
Accurate information in “Gender Queer”? ?
Nope - listen to an evolutionary biologist. It's his job. There are two genders - there is no spectrum or multiple genders.

Gender crap is craziness from the left and it's like the emperor's new clothes... you have to be like that innocent child to call out the crazy people.

Actually it's just plain old sin and Godlessness. The left don't like being called out on their hedonism.
 
The idea that you need to educate kids on sexuality in a public school setting at all is completely ludicrous. One more reason I don't believe in public education.
I think sex Ed should 100% be taught in schools.
 
That's not true, I told you before that I would have a problem with straight people feeling the need to do outreach for kids, highlighting their "gender identity" or sexual orientation and wearing provocative clothes while doing so. It's just weird and inappropriate, regardless who does it.
That’s because you don’t see “straight” as a gender identity. You just see it as normal

Is their any material at all that you would consider inappropriate for children?
Yes, plenty of stuff. But I’m cool with a book rated for teenagers being in a middle school full of teenagers.
I suppose you could use the term loosely. But if the child has two "mommies" what signifies the one that gave birth, breastfeed and so on? Does that matter or no?
No that doesn’t matter at all

I thought you said the police went and case close, book not there. What other shit? ...weren't parents getting put on FBI lists and otherwise harassed for voicing dissent at these meetings?

Yes the police case is closed. They shouldn’t have had to get involved. Now the public outrage and news stories are happening.

What information? It seems that you consider your own perspective on the matter as absolute. Do you feel it is the school's job to correct a parents mistaken belief?

No, the school doesn’t have to fix anyone’s beliefs. The parents have to grow up and deal with their beliefs like a rational person, which is not calling the police about a book.
 
I think sex Ed should 100% be taught in schools.
Disagree. That's the parent's job. It's like saying I think schools should teach carburetor tuning. It doesn't have a place there, it's not part of a basic education. Neither is sex ed or gym either. I don't want some sick immoral lefty teacher telling my kid anything about love and romance, that's for damn sure.
 
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