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I wasn't really referencing guns just your willingness to live under the authoritarian bootheel of the British Crown. You would've fought against us if this was 1776. 100 percent.
The British Crown is actually a good thing. They rubber stamp legislation and it's a safeguard against a home grown President gaining too much power over a Prime Minister - like has happened in some countries that become republics. It's a very stable form of Government.
 
I wasn't really referencing guns just your willingness to live under the authoritarian bootheel of the British Crown. You would've fought against us if this was 1776. 100 percent.
Interesting question.

@Thumbpicker, what say you ?
 
And nanny state that says you can't defend yourselves against an asshole neighbor. Or criticize the muslim invaders on social media. Don't forget about that.

You can't legally own a slingshot brother. That is not freedom. Your government could easily round all you bastards up and make you a penal colony again if they wanted to and there isn't anything you could do about it. Your freedom extends exactly as far as your government allows it to. That isn't freedom. At least not to us.
But you don't stop Muslims there either and nor has any Western Country which I think was a huge mistake.

As for a slingshot - they are mostly kiddies toys. So I don't really care. I could make one myself if I felt like - I did when I was a kid. No biggie.
 
And nanny state that says you can't defend yourselves against an asshole neighbor. Or criticize the muslim invaders on social media. Don't forget about that.

You can't legally own a slingshot brother. That is not freedom. Your government could easily round all you bastards up and make you a penal colony again if they wanted to and there isn't anything you could do about it. Your freedom extends exactly as far as your government allows it to. That isn't freedom. At least not to us.
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Nowhere does it say whether or not you would have fought for the crown against the US in 1776.
I don't think fighting against the British Crown was required. I've said before I see it as a Civil War against your own people not a revolutionary war. I think the whole tyranny thing was overblown.
 
But you don't stop Muslims there either and nor has any Western Country which I think was a huge mistake.

As for a slingshot - they are mostly kiddies toys. So I don't really care. I could make one myself if I felt like - I did when I was a kid. No biggie.
Some of us try. And we are free to defend ourselves from them, talk shit about them on social media, etc..
 
I don't think fighting against the British Crown was required. I've said before I see it as a Civil War against your own people not a revolutionary war. I think the whole tyranny thing was overblown.
A loyal subject but a subject nonetheless.
 
I don't think fighting against the British Crown was required. I've said before I see it as a Civil War against your own people not a revolutionary war.
That's a fundamental misunderstanding of the facts. A great many of our forefathers were not born in Britain and did not consider themselves British. That carries over to today too. You once told me that all caucasions were British really and that you consider yourself British. My sister in law came here from Manchester England about 12 years ago. She isn't even a citizen, just has a permanent visa. She doesn't consider herself British anymore. She is an American.
 
A loyal subject but a subject nonetheless.
I don't like everything about monarchies - normally I'd hate them. In it's current form however the monarchy is nothing more than a convenient rubber stamp and a tourist attraction if you live in Great Britain..
 
I don't like everything about monarchies - normally I'd hate them. In it's current form however the monarchy is nothing more than a convenient rubber stamp and a tourist attraction if you live in Great Britain..
They are on your coinage. We know who's in control.
 
That's a fundamental misunderstanding of the facts. A great many of our forefathers were not born in Britain and did not consider themselves British. That carries over to today too. You once told me that all caucasions were British really and that you consider yourself British. My sister in law came here from Manchester England about 12 years ago. She isn't even a citizen, just has a permanent visa. She doesn't consider herself British anymore. She is an American.
That's because people confuse political nationality with physical race/ethnicity. There is political identity and there is racial identity.

A chicken born in a stable is not a horse.

Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the Eastern US started off as British Colonies. You don't magically become some new "race" by being in another country.

If you did a dna test on me I'd be more English than the royal family - since they are Russian, German, French and Greek etc. I'm just British genetically.

Spike Milligan one of Britains most famous comedians wasn't allowed citizenship despite being half English and half Irish. He was born in India though. He was on the British airwaves as one of the most loved comedy teams in British history. In the end he took Irish citizenship and he was bitter about the whole thing. I get that.
 
That's because people confuse political nationality with physical race/ethnicity. There is political identity and there is racial identity.

A chicken born in a stable is not a horse.

Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the Eastern US started off as British Colonies. You don't magically become some new "race" by being in another country.
In a country where you are raised along with people from many other races, race becomes less relevant than nationality. You can look at European countries as an example. Poland, Czechoslovakia, Germany, France. People from all over settled in those countries. Hell look at England. After 1066 it grew to be much more Norman than Saxon. England isn't any different than the US in that respect. So rather than consider yourself British, ( which isn't a race) you should consider yourself Norman.
 
In a country where you are raised along with people from many other races, race becomes less relevant than nationality. You can look at European countries as an example. Poland, Czechoslovakia, Germany, France. People from all over settled in those countries. Hell look at England. After 1066 it grew to be much more Norman than Saxon. England isn't any different than the US in that respect. So rather than consider yourself British, ( which isn't a race) you should consider yourself Norman.
Well here we started off quite British when I was born and I don't like the current mixture. So I don't identify with my nationality anymore because it's not who I am. I was not born into mixture and I don't like a mixed culture. I don't recognise this place. I don't like it, I don't accept it, I never voted for it. We were never asked and it was never put to a vote. It has been forced on us like we have to accept it and like it.

It was also lazy planning - always wanting growth to sustain surpluses by increasing the population (from outside) rather than planning for a stable population.
 
Well here we started off quite British when I was born and I don't like the current mixture. So I don't identify with my nationality anymore because it's not who I am. I was not born into mixture and I don't like a mixed culture.
British or Norman or Saxon or Norse or Scottish or Irish ? Could really have been any of those if we're talking about race.

If I recall my history there were a metric shit ton of Irish people sent to New South Wales.
 
British or Norman or Saxon or Norse or Scottish or Irish ? Could really have been any of those if we're talking about race.

If I recall my history there were a metric shit ton of Irish people sent to New South Wales.
As far as I'm concerned they are all the same race. I know the Irish would beg to differ but they all look much the same and came, had similar cultures and came from the same tiny geographical area compared to here. Yeah sure Scotland, Ireland, Wales, Cornwall and England have regional differences and languages of their own but they intermixed there as well. Same people. British - and back then even Ireland was British whether they liked it or not.

I am perfectly aware of Scottish, Irish and Welsh history and the conflicts that went with it.

Yes the Australia I was born into (but is no more due to multicultralism) is a mix of all of those people. They all came from the British Isles. Ireland is a Britsh Isle too believe it or not. Modern Australia tries to say it's multicultural but it wasn't always that way. The union jack in the corner of the flag should tell you that.
 
Well here we started off quite British when I was born and I don't like the current mixture. So I don't identify with my nationality anymore because it's not who I am. I was not born into mixture and I don't like a mixed culture. I don't recognise this place. I don't like it, I don't accept it,
.....and you say you don't want to be American? :LOL:
 
.....and you say you don't want to be American? :LOL:
America is probably just as bad as here. So is Britain. So is Canada. They've all suffered from vast influxes of immigration and lost their identities.

There is nowhere left to go if you don't like it. It's all become like it.
 
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