Musk seeks personal tax info on millions from IRS.

[Floyd Eye]

And since you’re picking at semantics, erroneously, it’s site, not cite.

 

[TheBiggestJerk]

No, they don't

"Employers generally must withhold Social Security and Medicare taxes from employees' wages and pay the employer share of these taxes"
https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/understanding-employment-taxes

Show me the law or tax code that says that the employer “must”!

 

[shar-vell Dan]

Here what SS Administration cite says: "FICA is a U.S. federal payroll tax. 6.2%of your gross wages goes to Social Security tax. 1.45%of your gross wages goes to Medicare tax." https://www.ssa.gov/people/materials/pdfs/EN-05-10298.pdf


And here is what the IRS says: "Taxes under the Federal Insurance Contributions Act (FICA) are composed of the old-age, survivors, and disability insurance taxes, also known as Social Security taxes, and the hospital insurance taxes, also known as Medicare taxes. Different rates apply for these taxes."
https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc751

Why?

Social Security is one of the most successful programs in US History.
SS does not contribute to "the defecit" as many GOP always like to tell folks.
Employers also contribute to Social Security not just employees.
Medicare & Social Security programs are Federal Law.

 

[Erock]

1. The SSA database uses COBOL, which does not have a date type, but rather codes dates to a reference point, most commonly May 20, 1875. If birthdate information is incomplete, you end up with erroneous age information.

2. This screenshot lists ~400 million people marked as alive in the SSA database. That is more people than are currently alive in the United States, and almost five times more than are currently receiving SS benefits.

3. Only about 2% of people marked as older than 100 years old in the database are currently receiving benefits, and the SSA has automatically stopped paying out benefits to anyone marked as older than 115 in the database since 2015.

even if you take people over 100, it's ridiculous. There is no way those numbers are real, how many people know someone over 90, much less 100.

 

[Wizard of Ozz]

Social Security is one of the most successful programs in US History.
SS does not contribute to "the defecit" as many GOP always like to tell folks.
Employers also contribute to Social Security not just employees.
Medicare & Social Security programs are Federal Law.

... until Captian Dementia and friends stating signing up illegals to receive SS and Disability payments... that they were not eligible to receive.

Shit they are criminals and he is giving them our hard earned tax dollars?!?!

 

[JackTripper]

Federal Insurance CONTRIBUTIONS Act.

If you want to call the federal payroll tax a voluntary contribution, that's your prerogative.

But if it is, then why pay it?

 

[MadAsAHatter]

If you want to call the federal payroll tax a voluntary contribution, that's your prerogative.

But if it is, then why pay it?

A while back there was a movement about this. Some individuals, business owners and a few lower level legislators tried to start a grass roots movement to not pay these type of taxes. The premise was there was nothing on the books and no official laws that said you must pay taxes. They claimed because of this, these taxes were unconstitutional; at best voluntary so they stopped paying.

Aside the obvious of not taking root, I'm not sure what ever happened to anyone involved with it. As far as a know no one was audited, fined, or anything like that. I think the IRS downplayed it and just let it fade into obscurity without prosecuting anyone. They didn't want it to be publicized since they didn't actually have anything on paper that said you must pay taxes.

 

[Floyd Eye]

If you want to call the federal payroll tax a voluntary contribution, that's your prerogative.

But if it is, then why pay it?

Not me dude, it’s right there in the name. Besides, I remember plainly it being called a contribution on the 1040. It might not be now, but it was.

 

[Floyd Eye]

Social Security is one of the most successful programs in US History.
SS does not contribute to "the defecit" as many GOP always like to tell folks.
Employers also contribute to Social Security not just employees.
Medicare & Social Security programs are Federal Law.

You are fucking delusional dude.