Proof the Earth is round

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That's the problem though, there are no specifics, just approximations. There is nothing concrete. They say the SR-71 can "fly to the edge of space" but it's given max altitude is lower than the karman line. So it seems what defines "space" is just made up numbers and stuff.
There's another issue with that as well:
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Nobody can state anything other than theories. There's nothing concrete especially from my view since I don't believe space travel is real.
Well it is claimed to be conclusive and no longer theoretical at this point, but that gets to the more subjective matters of credibility, motivations, conspiracy, audacity, etc.

My point is that if you set the NASA pics aside, the debate becomes a lot more interesting and not quite as obvious.
 
1. Deep state? All these countries? Some who hate each other? Who is moving the puppet strings? Seems more like paranoia.
It's a pyramid scheme. One row of bricks does not know what the bricks above them know until we reach the capstone, which is satan. Hence your freemasonic bible, replacing cornerstone with capstone.
2. Somewhere around 330,000 feet but @SatanicPanic answered. Welcome to R-T SP :yes:
The SR-71 "flies to the edge of space at 85,000". Now space is 330,000. Pretty big disparity there. It's cause it's all made up; arbitrary. Today it's this, tomorrow it's that.

3. Yeah they covered up the development of the atomic bomb. Not really similar in that that was US people working toward the US winning the war. Or ending the war. You and I should visit the Hiroshima Memorial some day. Fake nukes? That's a little out there my man.
More camera tricks and psychological warfare. And even so I'm told it's all hydrogen based stuff now. And even so, from my understanding, most of the radiation comes from dirt/dust getting kicked up, not the weapon itself. So, drop bomb over enchanted rock and blow granite dust everywhere=n00k. Your granite counterops emit radiation.

If I convince the world I have a weapon which can annihilate everyone and everything else except the roaches then no one will mess with me, even if the weapon isn't real. It's the threat of it being real. The Lord says the earth endures forever therefore "nUkEs cAn aNNihiLAte pLanEt eArf" is just lies. Even if they are real, the Lord won't allow that. And btw, that scripture is at odds with science which says the earth will not endure forever cause the sun will burn out like a cheap LED bulb. Too many contradictions to subscribe to both things for me.

4. Classic Bible vs Big Bang thing but there are a lot of people that have the ability to believe in both.
Right, but you're accepting testimony from one group of people with regard to science as truthful, but then doubting the testimony of another group of people with regard to Christ and then tasking me for not believing the science stuff. Seems inconsistent. *shrugs
 
That's the problem though, there are no specifics, just approximations. There is nothing concrete. They say the SR-71 can "fly to the edge of space" but it's given max altitude is lower than the karman line. So it seems what defines "space" is just made up numbers and stuff.

I understand what you are getting at and here is my response: many things in science involve approximation. A lot of things can be defined precisely but some can never be. This is an ordinary consequence of the physical world we live in. That doesn't make it bad science, though. I wouldn't get too hung up on the precise "location" of space itself. The vast majority of our universe is just empty vacuum. We happen to live in an infinitesimal part that isn't and lucky for us.

If it helps illustrate my point better: we have thousands of satellites and instruments in orbit right now. All of them can be considered to be "in space" because the presence of atmosphere would cause orbital decay due to loss of momentum from friction and heat.
 
My point is that if you set the NASA pics aside, the debate becomes a lot more interesting and not quite as obvious.
NASA is government and the government are confirmed liars, grifters, scumbags, and villains. Not sure why anyone would just buy into their photoshopped shit without question. Even my boomer parents don't believe the moon landing was real. The truth has a way of leaking out now it's common knowledge Kubrick did the "moon landing shoot".

"Naw bro, Lance just trained harder than everyone else for the tour de france." "Sammy and Mark were just having an amazing year for home runs" "We can't go back to the moon cause we lost the tech-nala-gee"

People pick their heroes and assume they are upright, truthful people and it's hard for them to see otherwise. Don't pay any attention to the man behind the curtain. All those astronauts have high security clearances which means they HAVE to lie to the public about some stuff, bare minimum. Therefore, they are liars.
 
Right, but you're accepting testimony from one group of people with regard to science as truthful, but then doubting the testimony of another group of people with regard to Christ and then tasking me for not believing the science stuff. Seems inconsistent. *shrugs

I don't doubt the testimony of believers. When did I ever say that? I just have different beliefs. And I don't think I'm tasking you with anything bro.

And the 'edge of space' is somewhat just a phrase. The technical boundary just means the Earth's atmosphere is no longer and one has entered into a vacuum. I'm sure most people that have traveled anywhere in between 85k feet and 330k feet felt that they were in space, even though they may still have been in the thermosphere or whatever.

Wife and I heading to cabin in the morning for a loooong much needed weekend so stay frosty :cheers:
 
If it helps illustrate my point better: we have thousands of satellites and instruments in orbit right now. All of them can be considered to be "in space" because the presence of atmosphere would cause orbital decay due to loss of momentum from friction and heat.
Great example. I don't believe in satellites I only believe in high altitude weather balloons. Why aren't they able to send us hundreds of complete, unedited photos of earth using one of these thousands of devices? It's because they do not go high enough into "space" to get a complete photo i.e there is no "space" to send them to.

Why does a chinese spy balloon look just like a satellite except with a balloon above it? Because all satellites are just balloons with the balloon edited out for the photo op. We're given a smokescreen.
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I don't doubt the testimony of believers. When did I ever say that? I just have different beliefs. And I don't think I'm tasking you with anything bro.
Tasking wasn't the right word. I guess that implied ball breaking. I don't think you're ball breaking me, lol

I'm sure most people that have traveled anywhere in between 85k feet and 330k feet felt that they were in space, even though they may still have been in the thermosphere or whatever.
Right. I got to 85k. Yeah bro I been to "space" Yet the line is over 3x higher to actual "space". I've been to stateline nevada therefore I've been to California. It doesn't make any sense if there are not well defined boundaries.

Wife and I heading to cabin in the morning for a loooong much needed weekend so stay frosty :cheers:
Now that sounds like a good time. I been pressuring the old lady to take me up to north AR this year and wine and dine me for a couple days. I'm overdue for a road trip without a well defined destination. Maybe I'd make a good astronaut. Y'all be safe out there.
 
It's been defined. Outer space begins at the Kármán line which is 100km above sea level. Orbits (around earth) are just paths in space where objects can maintain a persistent state of free fall. They must be beyond the presence of any significant atmosphere.
2. Somewhere around 330,000 feet but @SatanicPanic answered. Welcome to R-T SP :yes:
The SR-71 "flies to the edge of space at 85,000". Now space is 330,000. Pretty big disparity there. It's cause it's all made up; arbitrary. Today it's this, tomorrow it's that.
Unit error. @SatanicPanic used kilometers, @311boogieman used feet, and your comment used inches the first time (though I assume you meant feet), and no units the second time (but again presumably feet, since it referenced @311boogieman).

100 kilometers = 100,000 meters = 328,083.99 feet ≈ 330,000 feet
So no contradiction between @SatanicPanic and @311boogieman, and 85 is much closer to 100 than 330.

Also the whole "ill-defined boundary" thing is 'cause there is no definite transition. Far enough away you're definitely in space, close enough and you're definitely still within the atmosphere, and in between it gradually changes. It's similar to trying to decide which parts exactly of the color spectrum are "red", "green", or "violet". Easy to tell if something is totally red, but the in-between bits and the exact dividing line between that and yellow is debatable.
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Great example. I don't believe in satellites I only believe in high altitude weather balloons. Why aren't they able to send us hundreds of complete, unedited photos of earth using one of these thousands of devices? It's because they do not go high enough into "space" to get a complete photo i.e there is no "space" to send them to.

Why does a chinese spy balloon look just like a satellite except with a balloon above it? Because all satellites are just balloons with the balloon edited out for the photo op. We're given a smokescreen.
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The US military has hundreds of satellites in space orbit. Are they lying along with NASA and all the other countries with scientific and military operations in space too? Can you provide an reasonable answer to why all these agencies would conspire together to convince you that it's all fake?
 
The US military has hundreds of satellites in space orbit. Are they lying along with NASA and all the other countries with scientific and military operations in space too? Can you provide an reasonable answer to why all these agencies would conspire together to convince you that it's all fake?
To trap our souls into a global conscious energy that they can manifest/transmorgrify into a new celestial reality
 
Unit error. @SatanicPanic used kilometers, @311boogieman used feet, and your comment used inches the first time (though I assume you meant feet), and no units the second time (but again presumably feet, since it referenced @311boogieman).
I was using quotations, implying feet, not inches.

The US military has hundreds of satellites in space orbit. Are they lying along with NASA and all the other countries with scientific and military operations in space too? Can you provide an reasonable answer to why all these agencies would conspire together to convince you that it's all fake?
Because they imported the nazi experts after WWII under operation paperclip and began utilizing heavy propaganda and mind control techniques developed on German prisoners against the US public. @harddriver linked a story about Operation Northwoods recently. The CIA planned on bombing, bringing down planes, and shooting people, American people, in order to justify a Cuban invasion. A frame up. Kennedy kaboshed it, then they kaboshed Kennedy. There is nothing noble or honest about our government. Their finest work is their ability to manipulate truth. Why would I listen to anything they say?

Convince you you are descended from cosmic ooze and and monkeys so now your life is meaningless and love is just a chemical reaction in your brain, a trick, rather than something righteous and eternal. Toss tons of space shows onto the TV set, priming minds for the "moon landing". Confuse sexuality by funding scum like Hefner and his smut factory. By encouraging women to part from their families, the core nuclear unit of society, portraying a traditional life as a prison cell. By signing a bunch of bands that dress like women, hair rock, in preparation for the final frontier of the sexual revolution, driven by chemicals and other endocrine disruptors pumped into food and water. To me, it's obvious they actively hate us and wish to deceive and destroy us. Satan is their god and he seeks to kill, steal, and destroy. There is the reality of this world.
 
Yeah. It's controversial because it calls into question the basic nature of the world we live in, the reality that modern day westerners take as unasailable, incontrovertible fact.

Because there is an obvious but usually suppressed tension between what we are taught and what our own senses tell us, it subconsciously adds to the consternation.

So it's difficult for most people to objectively consider the matter because challenging one's reality and trust in authority in such a fundamental way is mentally threatening.

This isn't an argument that flat earthers are correct, but it's worth noting for those who are conscientious and seeking truth.
Well-said I reckon bro'.

Same thing applies to the "natural" vs Pharma argument... and diet for that matter.

I mean, technically it applies to a lot of things but in my experience these two are absolute killers and difficult to deal with if you're trying to help.
 
Thanks.

PS. I forgot. Are you @Acceptance?
You can see a person's previous usernames if you click on the undo arrow looking thing next to their name in their profile.
If they never changed their user name that undo arrow thingy won't be there.

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