ICE, ICE, baby

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Floyd Eye said:
They absolutely did break the law if they came in illegally. Stealing under $750 isn't a felony either, but it still makes you a criminal.


And not having legal status is grounds for deportation.


It's called moving the goalposts. Frankly Dan is just doing what the democrats have been doing for at least 8 years now. But Dan isn't a democrat, just ask him.

Rather than the logical conclusion that the solution relies in only allowing legal immigrants to stay in the country, Dan has decided to make the argument that making illegal immigrants "Legal", like with the stroke of a pen, should make us happy unless we are bigots. It has been pointed out to him many times, by many people that immigration reform and amnesty are not the same thing. Every time he either ignores it or tries semantical bullshit to move the goal posts, play the circle game then pretend he is the only person here who isn't a moron. It's trolling for sure. Dan has an inferiority complex in real life for sure. The only place he can safely do this type of thing is on the internet for sure.
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It is not moving the goal posts dude. It was literally the first topic I posted about. The reason I entered the thread was to talk about that very thing.
And here I am still talking about it. It is not me moving the goalposts, I’m just following you guys around.
And no matter how many times I do post it, you haven’t gotten it through your head that you are wrong about deportation. This shit isn’t my opinion. It’s straight up written law.

I won’t even get into your dopey democratic shite
 
I never understood how the teacher from “Stand by me” felt until i started having conversations with some of you sorry fucks lol.
At least in the movies the students eventually get it.
 
And just to clarify, when I said “some of you sorry fucks” I was not referring to everyone.

just some of the sorry fucks
 
Dan Gleesak said:
It is not moving the goal posts dude. It was literally the first topic I posted about. The reason I entered the thread was to talk about that very thing.
And here I am still talking about it. It is not me moving the goalposts, I’m just following you guys around.
And no matter how many times I do post it, you haven’t gotten it through your head that you are wrong about deportation. This shit isn’t my opinion. It’s straight up written law.

I won’t even get into your dopey democratic shite
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What's the straight up written law? Can you cite or link it? Here's some immigration attorneys' interpretation, but I'm sure your law degree and vast knowledge of what is or isn't a crime is much higher than theirs:

18 U.S.C. § 1325 addresses illegal entry by aliens into the United States, making it a crime for individuals to enter or attempt to enter the country at unauthorized times or places, or to evade inspection by immigration officials. Penalties can include fines and imprisonment for up to six months for first offenses.

Improper presence: If ICE arrests a person who has been in the U.S. for many years without committing any misdemeanors or felonies, but cannot provide evidence of legal status, they will likely face charges of civil violation of immigration law rather than criminal charges (It's still a crime and at the discretion of the prosecution or judge on how to charge it). The only time where charges cannot be escalated are when the person is caught while attempting to enter the U.S. otherwise the person would likely be charged with being “unlawfully present” in the United States. Other examples of unlawful presence leading to civil charges are overstaying a visa, violating the terms of a legal entry (e.g., working on a tourist visa), and remaining in the U.S. after being ordered to leave.


What about improper entry — to enter or attempt to enter the U.S. at a place other than a designated port of entry, elude examination or inspection by immigration officers, or attempt to enter or enter through false representations or concealment of facts. A first-time offense of improper entry is typically classified as a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine, imprisonment for up to 6 months, or both. If an individual has been previously convicted of improper entry, any subsequent offense is treated as a felony, subject to a fine or imprisonment for up to 2 years, or both.

A first-time illegal entry is a federal misdemeanor, punishable by a fine of up to $250 and a maximum jail sentence of six months. These cases are typically handled in magistrate courts, where proceedings move quickly. Some individuals receive only fines or time served, while others face incarceration, particularly if they attempted to evade law enforcement.


A conviction can result in prolonged stays in immigration detention while removal proceedings are pending. Federal prosecutors sometimes negotiate plea agreements that reduce penalties in exchange for voluntary departure. Enforcement strategies, such as Operation Streamline, have expanded criminal prosecutions for illegal entry in high-traffic border regions.

Repeat Offender Enhancements​


When a noncitizen reenters the U.S. after a prior removal, penalties escalate. A first offense is a misdemeanor, but repeat violations are felonies, leading to harsher legal consequences. This distinction is particularly relevant in regions with high rates of recidivism, where individuals often attempt multiple crossings due to personal, economic, or humanitarian reasons.


Federal agencies such as Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) track prior removals and use biometric data to identify repeat offenders. When apprehended, these individuals are often flagged for felony prosecution, leading to longer sentences. Prosecutors may also consider prior criminal convictions when determining charges.

TL;DR? Your feelings aren't the law.
 
Dan Gleesak said:
It is not moving the goal posts dude. It was literally the first topic I posted about. The reason I entered the thread was to talk about that very thing.
And here I am still talking about it. It is not me moving the goalposts, I’m just following you guys around.
And no matter how many times I do post it, you haven’t gotten it through your head that you are wrong about deportation. This shit isn’t my opinion. It’s straight up written law.

I won’t even get into your dopey democratic shite
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Except you’re so stupid and self absorbed you didn’t comprehend ( that means understand) what I wrote. Which was pretty self explanatory.

You should go tell all those S. Americans who just got sent home they can come back now since you’ve interpreted the law for them. And tell the government, they don’t seem to understand.
 
Dan Gleesak said:
The reason for their existence apparently
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You’re so wrapped up in your little fantasy world that you’ve convinced yourself everyone making fun of you means you’re popular. Let me clarify. You’re not popular Dan, you’re a douche. Making fun of you is popular.
 
Pretty insulting to say Americans are lazy too......


Ever been to an In-N-Out..... see how fast those kids work..... they look like blurs.... hard to find workers anywhere else with more pep in their step or steam in their boots.....


How about workers in a Ford Factory line.... they dont seem lazy to me and some of the hardest and fastest workers in the country if not the world....... those people are not lazy......


American workers arent lazy and they take pride in what they do and do it fast, efficient, and to some of the highest standards and quality in the world.




 
Floyd Eye said:
You’re so wrapped up in your little fantasy world that you’ve convinced yourself everyone making fun of you means you’re popular. Let me clarify. You’re not popular Dan, you’re a douche twat-muffin. Making fun of you is popular.
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fixed.
 
NowYou'rePlayingWithPower said:
What's the straight up written law? Can you cite or link it? Here's some immigration attorneys' interpretation, but I'm sure your law degree and vast knowledge of what is or isn't a crime is much higher than theirs:

18 U.S.C. § 1325 addresses illegal entry by aliens into the United States, making it a crime for individuals to enter or attempt to enter the country at unauthorized times or places, or to evade inspection by immigration officials. Penalties can include fines and imprisonment for up to six months for first offenses.

Improper presence: If ICE arrests a person who has been in the U.S. for many years without committing any misdemeanors or felonies, but cannot provide evidence of legal status, they will likely face charges of civil violation of immigration law rather than criminal charges (It's still a crime and at the discretion of the prosecution or judge on how to charge it). The only time where charges cannot be escalated are when the person is caught while attempting to enter the U.S. otherwise the person would likely be charged with being “unlawfully present” in the United States. Other examples of unlawful presence leading to civil charges are overstaying a visa, violating the terms of a legal entry (e.g., working on a tourist visa), and remaining in the U.S. after being ordered to leave.


What about improper entry — to enter or attempt to enter the U.S. at a place other than a designated port of entry, elude examination or inspection by immigration officers, or attempt to enter or enter through false representations or concealment of facts. A first-time offense of improper entry is typically classified as a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine, imprisonment for up to 6 months, or both. If an individual has been previously convicted of improper entry, any subsequent offense is treated as a felony, subject to a fine or imprisonment for up to 2 years, or both.

A first-time illegal entry is a federal misdemeanor, punishable by a fine of up to $250 and a maximum jail sentence of six months. These cases are typically handled in magistrate courts, where proceedings move quickly. Some individuals receive only fines or time served, while others face incarceration, particularly if they attempted to evade law enforcement.


A conviction can result in prolonged stays in immigration detention while removal proceedings are pending. Federal prosecutors sometimes negotiate plea agreements that reduce penalties in exchange for voluntary departure. Enforcement strategies, such as Operation Streamline, have expanded criminal prosecutions for illegal entry in high-traffic border regions.

Repeat Offender Enhancements​


When a noncitizen reenters the U.S. after a prior removal, penalties escalate. A first offense is a misdemeanor, but repeat violations are felonies, leading to harsher legal consequences. This distinction is particularly relevant in regions with high rates of recidivism, where individuals often attempt multiple crossings due to personal, economic, or humanitarian reasons.


Federal agencies such as Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) track prior removals and use biometric data to identify repeat offenders. When apprehended, these individuals are often flagged for felony prosecution, leading to longer sentences. Prosecutors may also consider prior criminal convictions when determining charges.

TL;DR? Your feelings aren't the law.
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I’ve said crossing illegal is a misdemeanor, which is what your post reflects
And I’ve said simply being here illegally doesn’t constitute being deported, which everything you posted up to “repeat offenders” agrees with.
How can you not see that?
Floyd Eye said:
You’re so wrapped up in your little fantasy world that you’ve convinced yourself everyone making fun of you means you’re popular. Let me clarify. You’re not popular Dan, you’re a douche. Making fun of you is popular.
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In the same way people make fun of pro athletes even though they were cut from team in highschool
 
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Dan Gleesak said:
I’ve said crossing illegal is a misdemeanor, which what your post reflects
And I’ve said simply being here illegally doesn’t constitute being deported, which everything you posted up to “repeat offenders” agrees with.
How can you not see that?


In the same way people make fun of pro athletes even though they were cut from team in highschool
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You think you’re the shit. That makes one of you.
 
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