whats everyone gonna buy with their $2k tariff check??

[Floyd Eye]

I think you've fallen for the rhetoric pal. I don't give a shit about tariffs because I don't buy US products. Pissed off? Hardly. Amused? Absolutely. It's like standing watching your neighbors house across the street burn down.

Oh yeah, we’re in terrible shape here.

 

[ZEEGLER]

Oh yeah, we’re in terrible shape here.

That's the spirit!

 

[Findthetone1]

I think you've fallen for the rhetoric pal. I don't give a shit about tariffs because I don't buy US products. Pissed off? Hardly. Amused? Absolutely. It's like standing watching your neighbors house across the street burn down.

If you truly didn't "give a shit", you'd make no comment at all. Maybe try that....

 

[Floyd Eye]

If you truly didn't "give a shit", you'd make no comment at all. Maybe try that....

Dumbasses gonna dumbass.

 

[espquade]

Some waterfront property in the Sahara desert....that with my Doge check I should do quite well right...

 

[espquade]

As a business owner, this year I've signed the front of over $180,000 in tarriff payment checks to the DHS, which is in the 35-38% range for the countries in question. This is money is a tax straight off our bottom line that disappears into the G-mnt's black hole. The foreign companies that we're buying the product from are paying exactly $0 of the tarriffs.

I have a suspicion that the average person has no idea how this is really being implemented.

I agree 100% with your statement , but remember the people who think that tariffs are going to be paid by the foreign companies and not the U.S. consumers are also the same people who believed Mexico was going to pay for the wall.

 

[espquade]

Buy from American companies then. That's kinda the point of tariffs.

Lets take coffee which is up in cost at insane levels

Most of the world's coffee comes from Brazil, which has been the largest producer for over 150 years and accounts for about one-third of global production. Other major producers include Vietnam and Columbia, which together with Brazil, are responsible for nearly 70% of the world's coffee output. Coffee is grown in countries within the "coffee belt," a region between the Tropics of Cancer and Capricorn, which includes parts of South America, Central America, Africa, and Southeast Asia.

Tariffs on coffee imports from countries like Brazil, Colombia, and Vietnam are adding costs for both retailers and consumers.

90% of coffee consumed in the U.S. is imported. Also, very limited amounts are produced in Hawaii and Puerto Rico.

 

[CarlF]

This

 

[Floyd Eye]

Lets take coffee which is up in cost at insane levels

Most of the world's coffee comes from Brazil, which has been the largest producer for over 150 years and accounts for about one-third of global production. Other major producers include Vietnam and Columbia, which together with Brazil, are responsible for nearly 70% of the world's coffee output. Coffee is grown in countries within the "coffee belt," a region between the Tropics of Cancer and Capricorn, which includes parts of South America, Central America, Africa, and Southeast Asia.

Tariffs on coffee imports from countries like Brazil, Colombia, and Vietnam are adding costs for both retailers and consumers.

90% of coffee consumed in the U.S. is imported. Also, very limited amounts are produced in Hawaii and Puerto Rico.

Switch to tea or pay up. Can't afford it, get a better job.

 

[DISTORT6]

Switch to tea or pay up. Can't afford it, get a better job.

and then…

 

[JDs Couch]

I agree 100% with your statement , but remember the people who think that tariffs are going to be paid by the foreign companies and not the U.S. consumers are also the same people who believed Mexico was going to pay for the wall.

They also sent Steve Bannon money to build the wall, which he promptly pocketed

 

[espquade]

Switch to tea or pay up. Can't afford it, get a better job.

That's ridiculous and it has nothing to do with getting a better job. It has to do with prices going up at record high levels for no legitimate reason. Maybe you don't mind paying record high prices but I don't see the reason as many others don't see the reason.

Many products that cannot be made efficiently here in the states so your " buy American philosophy " only works in your mind and not in reality. Sorry to say , but it's very true.

 

[Rackman]

Yes, only foreigners can efficiently make stuff, especially musical instruments. The best guitars in particular come from China. Buy up you players

 

[JDs Couch]

That's ridiculous and it has nothing to do with getting a better job. It has to do with prices going up at record high levels for no legitimate reason. Maybe you don't mind paying record high prices but I don't see the reason as many others don't see the reason.

Many products that cannot be made efficiently here in the states so your " buy American philosophy " only works in your mind and not in reality. Sorry to say , but it's very true.

Floyd lives in a dream world. The Pink Floyd song "Brain Damage" is apropos here.

 

[espquade]

Yes, only foreigners can efficiently make stuff, especially musical instruments. The best guitars in particular come from China. Buy up you players

No one is talking guitars, but trying to show that there are many essential products that the US gets from other countries and now those tariffs are being passed on to the consumer. I really don't know why anyone would want to start paying higher prices when there is no need to do so?

Just a quick summery of what Canada provides. So I ask you are we supposed to start sourcing all of this ourselves? If it was that easy wouldn't we already be doing that?


Canada supplies the US with essential products, particularly energy (crude oil, natural gas, and electricity) and a wide range of agricultural goods (meat, vegetables, baked goods). Other key products include vehicles, vehicle parts, and various minerals and metals like aluminum, copper, and gold.

Energy

• Energy products: Canada is a leading supplier of U.S. energy imports, including crude oil, natural gas, and electricity, which are crucial for keeping the US economy running.
• Petroleum: The US imports billions of dollars worth of crude petroleum, petroleum gas, and refined petroleum from Canada.

Vehicles and machinery

• Vehicles and parts:The automotive industries in both countries are highly integrated. Canada exports a significant number of cars, trucks, and vehicle parts to the US.
  • Machinery: Canada is also a major exporter of machinery and mechanical appliances, such as industrial and electrical machinery and harvesting tractors.

Agriculture

• Livestock and produce: Canada is a large supplier of beef and various vegetables to the United States.
• Processed foods: Canada also provides significant amounts of processed foods, including baked goods and cereals.
• Maple syrup: Canada is the world's leading exporter of maple syrup.

Minerals and metals

• Metals: Canada exports significant amounts of key metals and minerals to the US, such as aluminum, copper, and iron ore.
• Precious metals: The US is a key buyer of Canadian gold and silver.

 

[JDs Couch]

No one is talking guitars, but trying to show that there are many essential products that the US gets from other countries and now those tariffs are being passed on to the consumer. I really don't know why anyone would want to start paying higher prices when there is no need to do so?

Just a quick summery of what Canada provides. So I ask you are we supposed to start sourcing all of this ourselves? If it was that easy wouldn't we already be doing that?


Canada supplies the US with essential products, particularly energy (crude oil, natural gas, and electricity) and a wide range of agricultural goods (meat, vegetables, baked goods). Other key products include vehicles, vehicle parts, and various minerals and metals like aluminum, copper, and gold.

Energy

• Energy products: Canada is a leading supplier of U.S. energy imports, including crude oil, natural gas, and electricity, which are crucial for keeping the US economy running.
• Petroleum: The US imports billions of dollars worth of crude petroleum, petroleum gas, and refined petroleum from Canada.

Vehicles and machinery

• Vehicles and parts:The automotive industries in both countries are highly integrated. Canada exports a significant number of cars, trucks, and vehicle parts to the US.
  • Machinery: Canada is also a major exporter of machinery and mechanical appliances, such as industrial and electrical machinery and harvesting tractors.

Agriculture

• Livestock and produce: Canada is a large supplier of beef and various vegetables to the United States.
• Processed foods: Canada also provides significant amounts of processed foods, including baked goods and cereals.
• Maple syrup: Canada is the world's leading exporter of maple syrup.

Minerals and metals

• Metals: Canada exports significant amounts of key metals and minerals to the US, such as aluminum, copper, and iron ore.
• Precious metals: The US is a key buyer of Canadian gold and silver.

A huge one is potash. They literally can't supply enough for their own farms and the US population would starve without Canadian potash.

 

[Rackman]

It's really amusing watching the America Last crowd explain how nothing could possible be made in the US.

Which is of course true. If you can't get one of those awesome Chinese guitars, there's always Indonesia. Not as awesome, but sometime you have to compromise. But under no circumstances could you buy an American guitar

 

[espquade]

I missed that and your right fertilizer is essential for our own U.S. products grown .

It baffles the mind how some prefer to keep their head in the sand and pretend that this is all ok.

This affects everyone on some level and some much more than others, but I guess if its not affecting some of you personally as of yet that don't give a rats ass correct?

 

[espquade]

It's really amusing watching the America Last crowd explain how nothing could possible be made in the US.

Which is of course true. If you can't get one of those awesome Chinese guitars, there's always Indonesia. Not as awesome, but sometime you have to compromise. But under no circumstances could you buy an American guitar

Nobody is talking about guitars made in America vs Chinese or whatever...

I don't believe anyone stated something about America can't make it's own products. Are you reading some other thread or something?

We are however not setup to make everything and some essential elements are not sourced from U.S Soil that we utilize and if even possible it would take countless years to do so.

But please just go back to talking about cheap Chinese guitars as somehow you missed the entire discussion about this.

 

[BeZo]

Believe it or not I was born with 12 toes… there’s actually a little bit of truth in there

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