“A no-compromise amplifier solution”: Synergy teams up with Wampler and Friedman to launch its machine-learning power amp – and promises to change the

[JohnnyGtar]

“A no-compromise amplifier solution”: Synergy teams up with Wampler and Friedman to launch its machine-learning power amp – and promises to change the game for tube modeling​

https://www.guitarworld.com/gear/amps/synergy-friedman-ir-loader-and-wampler-pedalhead

 

[nightlight]

This was in another thread, I think, man. Looks like an interesting product, though I'm a bit sceptical about the "machine learning" aspect.

It's also super expensive, I'd rather use something that is sub-$1000. I mean, as good a builder as Friedman is, where are the machine learning algorithms coming from?

Is it just something that mimics cab response, like the Boss Waza TAE? I'd rather be able to choose myself, what does a machine know about tone.

All said and done, I'm probably not the target market though, and Friedman may have perceived a gap in the market that this addresses.

 

[JohnnyGtar]

This was in another thread, I think, man. Looks like an interesting product, though I'm a bit sceptical about the "machine learning" aspect.

It's also super expensive, I'd rather use something that is sub-$1000. I mean, as good a builder as Friedman is, where are the machine learning algorithms coming from?

Is it just something that mimics cab response, like the Boss Waza TAE? I'd rather be able to choose myself, what does a machine know about tone.

All said and done, I'm probably not the target market though, and Friedman may have perceived a gap in the market that this addresses.

I would email or call Boutique Amps Distribution with your questions.

 

[ZEN Amps]

"and promises to change the game.."

Good. Everyone hates the game of a great tube amp running into a cab. A better, no-compromise game involves digital conversion, DSP, and machine learning Class D solid state amplification.

 

[nightlight]

I would email or call Boutique Amps Distribution with your questions.

"Not the target market". I prefer micing cabs, or alternatively doing everything in the box or using a modeller.

 

[baron55]

"and promises to change the game.."

Good. Everyone hates the game of a great tube amp running into a cab. A better, no-compromise game involves digital conversion, DSP, and machine learning Class D solid state amplification.

With added latency

 

[glpg80]

Power companies already do this and it’s called active power factor correction to increase efficiency of switch mode supplies. What they’re proposing is that instead of power factor correction for maximum efficiency, they’re normalizing to how certain tubes react over frequency.

Sounds cool but also complicated as hell - a lot easier to just use a tube amplifier stage. Power tubes especially have an infinite lifespan on the shelf. Something that complex will have bad capacitors in 20 years and repairing it would be near impossible (most don’t repair switch mode supplies once they fail)

 

[rsm]

 

[thegame]

Good. Everyone hates the game

 

[Nitrobattery]

I think it's cool. It's a great way of being able to take something like a loud Super Lead and use it live with manageable stage volume, use stereo effects on an amp that doesn't have an effects loop and send IR's to front of house and to feed in-ears. It's expensive, but it's cool all in one tool for touring guitarists who want to use real amps with some of the advantages that modelers bring to the table.

 

[tallcoolone]

I think it's cool. It's a great way of being able to take something like a loud Super Lead and use it live with manageable stage volume, use stereo effects on an amp that doesn't have an effects loop and send IR's to front of house and to feed in-ears. It's expensive, but it's cool all in one tool for touring guitarists who want to use real amps with some of the advantages that modelers bring to the table.

Waza TAE does this now

 

[Nitrobattery]

Waza TAE does this now

Not with a stereo power amp

 

[tallcoolone]

Not with a stereo power amp

True, I did not see the stereo requirement. Who uses stereo live tho?

 

[ZEN Amps]

True, I did not see the stereo requirement. Who uses stereo live tho?

I’m curious to know as well. I’m sure some people do, but not sure what purpose it serves.

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

I will reserve judgement, because Friedman is a great guy, and I believe in his work.
That said...i hate stereo amps and cabs. It just seems strange to me. I get it if you are doing a wet/dry. But I have never wanted a wet dry

Two amps in stereo through separate cabs however... monster tone

 

[ZEN Amps]

I will reserve judgement, because Friedman is a great guy, and I believe in his work.
That said...i hate stereo amps and cabs. It just seems strange to me. I get it if you are doing a wet/dry. But I have never wanted a wet dry

Two amps in stereo through separate cabs however... monster tone

Yep that IR-Load is probably going to be a good box that sells well. I just think the marketing language is a bit much (identical, exactly, zero-compromise). Starting to sound the Kemper talk of 2012.

 

[JohnnyGtar]

I’m curious to know as well. I’m sure some people do, but not sure what purpose it serves.

It can also be used in mono.

 

[tallcoolone]

Yep that IR-Load is probably going to be a good box that sells well. I just think the marketing language is a bit much (identical, exactly, zero-compromise). Starting to sound the Kemper talk of 2012.

What does it do that hasn’t been done? No FX, no eq…don’t get it

 

[ZEN Amps]

What does it do that hasn’t been done? No FX, no eq…don’t get it

The claim is that the way other boxes do it - Fryette with tubes, Two Notes with solid state - leaves "gaps" that this fills. This comment was in relation to overall tone / performance, and not features if I understood correctly.

Essentially they are saying via DSP and "machine learning" they've made a solid state amp respond exactly like a tube one. Begs the question, will Friedman continue to produce amps with a tube power section?

 

[JohnnyGtar]

What does it do that hasn’t been done? No FX, no eq…don’t get it

Dave gives a thorough run down of what it does as well as the new Phil X head.