“Amp-in-a-box” pedals

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I understand the concept of “______ amp in a box” pedals, but I’m not understanding the river of pedals coming out with the moniker. I think the first one I heard that actually sounded was Bogners La Grange, and back then, the concept made sense to me. If you want some marshally flavor in an amp that doesn’t have, now you have this novelty that actually sounds good. Also, amp sims still sounded like trash back then without heavy tweaking so it made sense.

A few years later Abasi came out with his pedal Pathos and the floodgates started opening, all the sudden companies started making them and none of them since then appealed to me because modelers have been getting better and better - so I get that having one of these pedals to do that thing to your clean channel makes sense for novelty purposes, but the way these things are being unveiled like cracker jacks being tossed at you

You have amps that came out between the year 1981 and 1983… in a box. You have an amplifier that caught on fire but made it on a rancid album in 1948… in a box. Google made an amp in a box trying to take sales from Gibsons “play authentic” ideology.

What gives? Has anyone tried these and wanted to sell their amps or use these over a good amp modeler? A lot of these fuzz and doom pedals make it seem like they capture power amp distortion from the real amps… that nobody will ever hear the power distortion from unless in a rare case of being ran through an attenuator which isn’t the same… It’s always been marketing gimmicks to me but maybe I’m missing out since people are obviously buying them up and they aren’t cheap by any stretch.
 
There's a bunch of really bad ones, and a handful of really, really good ones.

Lawrence Petross makes the best amp in a box pedals IMO, and he specializes in different eras of marshalls

The Suhr Riot is great

The Box of Rock is excellent

I think dumbles sound like ass, but a bunch of people like the zen drive and shit like that.

The point isn't to use them as a full-on preamp, as seems to be implied by the OP post, it's to use them as an overdrive or distortion pedal with an existing rig but get that amps "flavor.' Generally speaking, they work well as lower gain or mid gain devices, and tend to be godawful ass-horrible for the super high gain stuff like 5150s and Rectos.

If you wanna hear what an amp in a box pedal is supposed to sound like, I would try a Lawrence Petross Eighty 7 or the UA Lion if you like marshall sounds, the Revv G3 or KSR Ceres if you like high gain sounds, the Strymon Iridium or Friedman IRJ or IRX if you want to run it direct, or the Tone King Royalist pedal if you like grandpa amps

If you just want to complain about how many of them there are, i totally get it, because the market is saturated with too much of everything
 
I have one of those pedals; it's channel 3 of the VH4 in a pedal wayne made me. absolutely crushes into a poweramp or the FX return of an amp, or 90% as good into the front end of an amps clean channel.

kicks ass for what it is
Yeah .... that pedal is sick ....... I've got two in stock too (y)

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Sometimes they sound great, sometimes they sound like ass. Just depends. I think mooer makes a bunch of different ones and the video demos look pretty spot on. Always curious to try one out.
 
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Sometimes they sound great, sometimes they sound like ass. Just depends. I think mooer makes a bunch of different ones and the video demos look pretty spot on. Always curious to try one out.

They are hit and miss. I've played a couple that were really good and a couple that were shit. The mark IIc and diezel hagen pedals were pretty shit. The Engl one sounded pretty close, same with the 5150
 
Sometimes they sound great, sometimes they sound like ass. Just depends. I think mooer makes a bunch of different ones and the video demos look pretty spot on. Always curious to try one out.
Mooer had a series of small pedals that were supposed to based on different amps - Micro preamps. I had the Diezel one, it was ok.

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I have a UA Ruby (Vox) pedal that sounds very good. Using it with an H9 for my Vox Continental

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What gives? Has anyone tried these and wanted to sell their amps or use these over a good amp modeler? A lot of these fuzz and doom pedals make it seem like they capture power amp distortion from the real amps… that nobody will ever hear the power distortion from unless in a rare case of being ran through an attenuator which isn’t the same… It’s always been marketing gimmicks to me but maybe I’m missing out since people are obviously buying them up and they aren’t cheap by any stretch.
They are high profit margin, cheaply produced junk. They must be destroyed.
 
You’d think engineers would have cracked the code in designing a tube amp that gets genuine stomp box tones by now. “Box in an amp” practically sells itself!
Especially the Alice in Chains edition. "The Man in the Box in the Amp".
 

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