1989 USA Fender YJM strat.... Is this legit ?

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Im dying to get my hands on a scalloped fingerboard. I have this pristine 89 YJM strat on hold until Monday and I dont know what to think. I love the red with rosewood board. I can afford a new version or go after any version out there. This one is $1200. I wonder if this guitar looks legit and I wonder if the new models are a huge improvement. Should I buy this ot just order a new one. Im sick and I just want to rock and spend my time chasing tone,shredding and enjoying myself. Tell me what you know....I need opinions here !
 

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I thought the early models (up til 1998) all had the small headstocks and 2 point trems. I'd stay away from it personally
 
actually looking at it a little closer are you sure they say its a 1989? it looks more like version 2 (so from 1998). Think they changed to the big headstock, six point trem and walnut open access truss rod and they changed the font. I have a 1996 and it is still version 1 with small headstock, 2 point trem not truss rod access at the top of the neck (access is from the heal of the neck) and small font

check this site out

http://pickroar.com/187/how-to-identify ... tocasters/

http://pickroar.com/216/yngwie-malmstee ... ersus-new/
 
the guitar is on consignment. It had been sold by the store that posted pics of it. I inquir d about it and they said that it was my lucky day and that the buyer had brought it back in for consignment. That struck me as odd but the store is a well known place and very nice. I dont suspect any malice. However , I called them Saturday and asked for the serial number and theyear it was made. I was simply told " 1989" and after hearing that I was so disappointed that I forgot to get theserial number. I sat and looked at the pictures and something told me it was a version 2.

Let me ask this....when I call back Monday and get the serial number how is Fender's production year in the serial number ? When I asked about the year they were very unsure and answered basically in a question mark........like " 1989?"

So if it is a 1998 like I suspect would $1250 be a fair price ? Im thinking yes. I dont think Im being scammed. Its a well known store and all the employees have been great. Im thinkng 1998 makes sense and I can verify with the. Serial number . Sound on track ?
 
Good luck, I want to pick up a used one of these as well at some point. I hope your doing alright but your original post is concerning considering the struggles you have posted in the last year or two. Enjoy it when you find it and rock that sucker out! Good mojo to you sir!
 
Get a return policy in writing to buy yourself some time then contact Fender. I went through this recently and Fender got back to me in a day with the full spec sheet. I even had them send me a COA.
 
sjk":12f1hrk8 said:
Good luck, I want to pick up a used one of these as well at some point. I hope your doing alright but your original post is concerning considering the struggles you have posted in the last year or two. Enjoy it when you find it and rock that sucker out! Good mojo to you sir!


I just reread my original post....I should never send emails or post anything after 10pm. Fentanyl is a hell of a drug and it makes me loopy. I sent Scott Splawn a real weird email recently and it was beyond embarrassing. I can get strange when Im tired. Im doing ok though. Its weird being on palliative care but Ive been on it for almost 2 years and I could nix it as it really isnt necessary anymore. I stil play at church but I cannot gig anymore. I cant carry the gear anymore. It could be a lot worse.

Im really wanting this YJM. The store is closed Sunday so Ill call tomorrow and see if they will allow me to return the item if it is not as advertised. I hope its a 1998 or newer. A red YJM with rosewood fretboard has been on my hit list for years.
 
stompboxfreak72":36xgoluf said:
sjk":36xgoluf said:
Good luck, I want to pick up a used one of these as well at some point. I hope your doing alright but your original post is concerning considering the struggles you have posted in the last year or two. Enjoy it when you find it and rock that sucker out! Good mojo to you sir!


I just reread my original post....I should never send emails or post anything after 10pm. Fentanyl is a hell of a drug and it makes me loopy. I sent Scott Splawn a real weird email recently and it was beyond embarrassing. I can get strange when Im tired. Im doing ok though. Its weird being on palliative care but Ive been on it for almost 2 years and I could nix it as it really isnt necessary anymore. I stil play at church but I cannot gig anymore. I cant carry the gear anymore. It could be a lot worse.

Im really wanting this YJM. The store is closed Sunday so Ill call tomorrow and see if they will allow me to return the item if it is not as advertised. I hope its a 1998 or newer. A red YJM with rosewood fretboard has been on my hit list for years.

That is good to know! I was really worried when I first saw your post late last night and woke up today still thinking about it. Good luck I can't wait to get one eventually as well, love scalloped boards although I've never owned one lol.
 
The year it was made will be in the Fender serial number on the back of the headstock. The neck plate, at least on my 2004 and 2005 YJM Strats is blank. No serial number or Fender logo. It is the same on the most current (2007) YJM Strat revision also. I think all of the second revision YJM's have the mint green/aged plastic pickguard and knobs along with having a brass nut.

http://pickroar.com/187/how-to-identify ... tocasters/

http://pickroar.com/216/yngwie-malmstee ... ersus-new/

From Yngwie's website:

1994 Model
Fender’s Work of Art:
the Malmsteen Strat

How the Custom Shop Works

Fender calls their custom shop The Dream Factory, and with good reason. It’s here that their designers and craftsmen turn the exacting requirements of world-class guitarists into one-of-a kind instruments, achieving “the perfect expression of each musicia n’s personal vision.”

To create Yngwie’s personal vision, designer George Blanda combined elements from vintage Strats of the 50s. “Yngwie is a traditionalist in many ways,” says Blanda. “It was important to him that all the Strat body contours matched those of his 50s Strats. But the neck was something else. Scalloped fingerboards are an integral part of his techniques. So, for him it had to have the vintage look with his special neck.”

Guitars from the Custom Shop are produced by hand. This includes cutting the body, performing six sand-and-finish operations, buffing to a radiant luster, and assembling the electronic circuitry. All components such as playing action, bridge height, and i ntonation are set to much finer tolerances than assembly line instruments. That’s why Signature Series guitars are special orders, taking up to several months to fill. Here are the specifications on both the U.S. and Japanese-made Malmsteen models:

Yngwie Malmsteen Signature Series Stratocasters

U.S. Signature Stratocaster, 1998 Model
Fender’s website introduces the new model thusly: “Swedish guitarist Yngwie Malmsteen first hit the U.S. music scene through a Guitar Player Spotlight column and from there, hit the ground running. From his days in the 80’s rock scene to sold-out performances showcasing his classical influences and prodigious technique, Yngwie has remained truly one of a kind.”

The 1998 model incorporates Yngwie’s customization of heavy (Dunlop 6000) frets and a large 60’s-style headstock. These models have the YJM pickup as well as the HS-3.

Body: Alder
Neck: 1-piece maple with 60’s large headstock
Machine Heads: Schaller “F” tuners
Fretboard: Rosewood or maple, scalloped (9.5″ radius/241 mm)
Number of Frets: 21
Pickups: 2 DiMarzio YJM (neck & mid), 1 DiMarzio HS-3 (bridge)
Controls: Volume, Tone, “No Load” Tone (bridge & mid)
Tremolo: Vintage
Pickup Switching: 3-way selector
Pickguard: mint green
Special: Aged parts, brass nut
Scale Length: 25.5″ (648 mm)
Neck Width at Nut: 1.650″ (42 mm)
Strings: Fender Super 3250L
Accessories: Strap & cable
Fender Case: Tweed

U.S. Signature Stratocaster, 1994 Model
Fender introduces the updated Yngwie Malmsteen Stratocaster. The model still retains such Yngwie trademark features as scalloped fretboard and brass nut, and adds a late sixties large headstock, original Synchronized Tremolo, and aged plastic parts. Visit Fender’s website for further details.

#010-7700 (rosewood neck), #010-7702 (maple neck) Colors: Candy Apple Red, Vintage White, Sonic Blue Body: Alder, satin finish Features:

Scalloped fretboard
21 frets
American Standard tremolo system
2 DiMarzio HS-3 pickups
1 Fender American Standard pickup
Tweed case, strap, cable
1 volume control, 2 TBX
5-position switching
25.5″ (647.7mm) scale length
9.5″ (241.3mm) radius
1.654″ (42mm) width at nut
Brass nut
50’s style headstock
Japanese Signature Strat, 1995 Model
#027-2702 (maple neck)
Colors: Black, Vintage White, Sonic Blue
Body: Bass wood, gloss finish
Features:
70’s style Stratocaster
Scalloped fretboard
3 single-coil pickups
Molded case
70’s style headstock
5-position switching
1 volume control, 2 tone control
Standard tremolo
 
The store is closed today but I got a FB message:

Hi Doug, whoever told you it was an 89 must have flipped the numbers in their head. the serial number for the guitar is SN8953514. S for signature series, N for 90's, 8 indicating the 8th year of the 90's. So, it's definitely a 1998. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Rachel
 
I just saw one the other day for a little less on reverb if you aren't set on the rosewood. I would love to try a scallop board and I thought the older ones weren't as severe of a scallop. Good luck
 
shit I need to stop looking at this :doh: .... a couple more things "concern" me. The headstock shape looks a little off to me, the circled top part should be a sharper angle (heading more towards the s of stratocaSter...later versions are a bit more rounded)). The logo positioning is a little of as well, the word tremolo is really close to the edge of the headstock which is something that happened after 2007. Also the machines heads from the ones I have seen are oval ones not the flat sided ones

again personally I would probably stay away from it even though its not screaming FAKE something just feels off about it


If I were in your shoes I would grab a MIM or squire and scallop it myself and install a brass nut. Honestly I have a malmsteen strat that I have butchered (well stripped back to bare wood and paint numerous times) and I was shocked to see it had a 5 piece body (yes thats 5 piece). The 2 point trem (again pre 1998) and brass nut make it really stable tuning wise but apart from that it aren't nothing special compared to any old strat.

I have scalloped 6 necks myself and it is really easy (but time consuming) :thumbsup:
 
I passed on this. I really liked the partial scalloping of the Blackmore but Im not buying sight unseen for s neck that Ill either love or hate. The guitar looks beautiful and I think the sellers were straight as could be. I just have to get my hands on one of these before I jump the cliff.
 
If you want to try a Blackmore, I know Chris's guitars in Albany, NY has one for $850 believe. It's vintage white and super clean. Might be an option
 
Aww, crap.... I was gonna suggest you carefully get it home and 'apart' and look in neck pocket and behind pickguard, for internal marks, serial numbers, paint or date codes, ANYTHING you could shoot a pic of and send off to FMIC for help or piece of mind and then could always return the following day with a reciept...

But, alas.... NO sale... :lol: :LOL:
 
Gainiac":39q2o0cc said:
Aww, crap.... I was gonna suggest you carefully get it home and 'apart' and look in neck pocket and behind pickguard, for internal marks, serial numbers, paint or date codes, ANYTHING you could shoot a pic of and send off to FMIC for help or piece of mind and then could always return the following day with a reciept...

But, alas.... NO sale... :lol: :LOL:

I so want to love this guitar but fear I wont. Its the scallops that are the unknown. Ive always wanted run......ugggh. I might send one of my two splawn guitars in for a blackmore scallop. That would be cheaper. I tried to have a second neck made but after a falling out I think I have to move on to another company. Jon Hill in Cleveland is my thought now. If he can make me a neck to fit my Splawn and I scollop it and hate it I still have my original neck. Im leaning that way.
 
stompboxfreak72":36llsndj said:
Gainiac":36llsndj said:
Aww, crap.... I was gonna suggest you carefully get it home and 'apart' and look in neck pocket and behind pickguard, for internal marks, serial numbers, paint or date codes, ANYTHING you could shoot a pic of and send off to FMIC for help or piece of mind and then could always return the following day with a reciept...

But, alas.... NO sale... :lol: :LOL:

I so want to love this guitar but fear I wont. Its the scallops that are the unknown. Ive always wanted run......ugggh. I might send one of my two splawn guitars in for a blackmore scallop. That would be cheaper. I tried to have a second neck made but after a falling out I think I have to move on to another company. Jon Hill in Cleveland is my thought now. If he can make me a neck to fit my Splawn and I scollop it and hate it I still have my original neck. Im leaning that way.
I have a John Hill custom build and it's nothing short of amazing! It's actually the singer's in my band. I took it from him to do a complete setup because it's been sitting for years. It has a great neck, stainless frets and sounds killer. We've been working on a medley and the last song is the Dukes of Hazzard theme song, and that's when we'll break out 'The General Lee' lol
 
FWIW I used to own the original first run YJM, (circa 88?). with the smaller headstock. Few things came to mind right away: the current models have a way better neck. That's the main difference for me.
The 88 I owned had:
1- much smaller frets
2- the scallope was much shallower
3- the neck was much bigger thickness wise, more suitable for a Strat blues thing.
 
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