2025 high school graduation

84superchamp

84superchamp

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For my granddaughter, a beautiful overachiever. These are always long, drawn-out affairs but a first time "addition" had me ready to walk out.
Here in smalltown northern indiana it seems at least 1/3 of graduates were Hispanic. No problem. But one of the senior speakers, also hispanic, announced that she had a special message for her mexican classmates and began speaking in spanish. I thought "a short message...it can't hurt" but this went on for almost 5 minutes, an overflow crowd of 90% english-speaking americans listening to an unintelligible foreign language for that long.
It just seemed very strange, i had to vent somewhere.
 
84superchamp said:
For my granddaughter, a beautiful overachiever. These are always long, drawn-out affairs but a first time "addition" had me ready to walk out.
Here in smalltown northern indiana it seems at least 1/3 of graduates were Hispanic. No problem. But one of the senior speakers, also hispanic, announced that she had a special message for her mexican classmates and began speaking in spanish. I thought "a short message...it can't hurt" but this went on for almost 5 minutes, an overflow crowd of 90% english-speaking americans listening to an unintelligible foreign language for that long.
It just seemed very strange, i had to vent somewhere.
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The speakers at most of those grad ceremonies are always clueless hard left kids even when they are english speaking, don't let you get it down. My kid graduated in the height of the covid era if you wanna talk about moron speeches and retarded demonstrations how about grad chairs spaced six feet apart on a football field and masks required for students, but nothing applied in the bleachers. I've never seen that many idiiots in one place before.

Down here no one would care much about the spanish thing cause the largest share of Texans are hispanics and a good portion of everyone else knows enough spanish to communicate. I'd say you got off easy, lol. Glad to hear from you again.
 
VonBonfire said:
The speakers at most of those grad ceremonies are always clueless hard left kids even when they are english speaking, don't let you get it down. My kid graduated in the height of the covid era if you wanna talk about moron speeches and retarded demonstrations how about grad chairs spaced six feet apart on a football field and masks required for students, but nothing applied in the bleachers. I've never seen that many idiiots in one place before.

Down here no one would care much about the spanish thing cause the largest share of Texans are hispanics and a good portion of everyone else knows enough spanish to communicate. I'd say you got off easy, lol. Glad to hear from you again.
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I'm probably overreacting but i just felt like some of the celebration was stolen from us and given to a select few.
 
watson503 said:
My oldest stepson graduated in 2019 and Sheila Jackson Lee was the guest speaker...that was hell to sit through. The struggle is real.
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A short investigation into her "career" spells it out perfectly. My sympathy.
And makes me thankful that guest speakers are not part of the celebration here...yet.
 
Your not over reacting..
If you live in America you should speak English or know that we will think less of you.
If you want to insert yourself into our traditions in a way that we cannot participate in, it will be far far less of you.
If you don’t care about our reactions and do it anyway in the middle of all the shit that’s going on at the moment, we will likely not think better of you from here out…
If you don’t like it, leave…
 
Our insistence on “English only” really sets our country behind so much of the rest of the developed world.
 
Dan Gleesak said:
Our insistence on “English only” really sets our country behind so much of the rest of the developed world.
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Every time I have traveled abroad all the visitor guides and travel agent guides suggest you at least try to communicate in the native language. The first time I was in Germany people would straight up pretend they couldn't speak English. Had a gas station attendant try that one on me. He learned English real quick when I said, "Hmm, I guess that fuel I just pumped is free then" and started back to my car. Same jack off tried to overcharge me too.


The real issue though is "The rest of the developed world", which isn't true at all. Unless by rest of the developed world you mean Europe. And Europe is about the size of Texas, they all are fluent in several languages. They have to be. Here almost no one is bi-lingual or multi-lingual. Fuck, you have a hard time on Key West if you can't speak Spanish, can you imagine Cuba ? Or Mexico ?


Do you think groups of American students could immigrate to Mexico and hi-jack a ceremony like that ? It's funny how American liberals think our immigration policy is unfair to S. Americans, every one of who's country has immigration laws that make ours look extremely relaxed by comparison.

And Dan, he's talking about fucking Indiana, not Texas or Florida or Arizona.
 
Floyd Eye said:
Every time I have traveled abroad all the visitor guides and travel agent guides suggest you at least try to communicate in the native language. The first time I was in Germany people would straight up pretend they couldn't speak English. Had a gas station attendant try that one on me. He learned English real quick when I said, "Hmm, I guess that fuel I just pumped is free then" and started back to my car. Same jack off tried to overcharge me too.


The real issue though is "The rest of the developed world", which isn't true at all. Unless by rest of the developed world you mean Europe. And Europe is about the size of Texas, they all are fluent in several languages. They have to be. Here almost no one is bi-lingual or multi-lingual. Fuck, you have a hard time on Key West if you can't speak Spanish, can you imagine Cuba ? Or Mexico ?


Do you think groups of American students could immigrate to Mexico and hi-jack a ceremony like that ? It's funny how American liberals think our immigration policy is unfair to S. Americans, every one of who's country has immigration laws that make ours look extremely relaxed by comparison.

And Dan, he's talking about fucking Indiana, not Texas or Florida or Arizona.
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I’m not really sure it should matter what state it is. Massachusetts is pretty damn far from any borders and my daughter has kids that speak 5 different languages in her elementary school class of less than 20. I’m pretty proud of her for wanting to learn the languages her friends speak. Knowledge isn’t a dying art quite yet
 
Dan Gleesak said:
I’m not really sure it should matter what state it is. Massachusetts is pretty damn far from any borders and my daughter has kids that speak 5 different languages in her elementary school class of less than 20. I’m pretty proud of her for wanting to learn the languages her friends speak. Knowledge isn’t a dying art quite yet
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Don't do that dude. Don't insinuate that people who don't speak other languages are anti-learning.

You aren't far from New York. There's lots of immigrants in and around NYC. Typically that's not the case for rural Indiana. The only reason it's the case now is because democrats started shipping them all over the country in a concerted effort to "Fundamentally change" America.
 
Floyd Eye said:
Don't do that dude. Don't insinuate that people who don't speak other languages are anti-learning.

You aren't far from New York. There's lots of immigrants in and around NYC. Typically that's not the case for rural Indiana. The only reason it's the case now is because democrats started shipping them all over the country in a concerted effort to "Fundamentally change" America.
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I wouldn’t be as brash to say that anyone who isn’t bilingual is anti-learning. My Spanish is piss poor now compared to what it was probably 10 years ago when I was speaking it regularly.
But I do see it is part of a larger trend of people valuing information over knowledge. Forming opinions based on a headline without reading the article so to speak.

I mean the OP said himself that 1/3 of the graduating class was Hispanic. Which A) makes me question that 90% of the audience was English speaking, and B) makes me think that in a “small town” graduating class, 1/3 Hispanic isn’t far from 1/2 Hispanic, so 5 minutes of a multi hour ceremony doesn’t seem outlandish when put in perspective.
 
Dan Gleesak said:
I wouldn’t be as brash to say that anyone who isn’t bilingual is anti-learning. My Spanish is piss poor now compared to what it was probably 10 years ago when I was speaking it regularly.
But I do see it is part of a larger trend of people valuing information over knowledge. Forming opinions based on a headline without reading the article so to speak.

I mean the OP said himself that 1/3 of the graduating class was Hispanic. Which A) makes me question that 90% of the audience was English speaking, and B) makes me think that in a “small town” graduating class, 1/3 Hispanic isn’t far from 1/2 Hispanic, so 5 minutes of a multi hour ceremony doesn’t seem outlandish when put in perspective.
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Why not lay the blame where it belongs ? The NEA and the Dept. of Education. Most of those countries you pointed out are teaching kids English and other languages as a second language when they're about 5 or 6. Here foreign languages are electives and they aren't available until like 7th or 8th grade. Then we can talk about why Chinese kids know algebra when they're 7 and most kids here graduate high school without knowing it.

Also, perhaps people wouldn't feel it was so outlandish if it was natural immigration. I think you'll find most Americans are welcoming to newcomers historically. Maybe if we didn't just have an administration that over the course of 4 years forced 13 million illegal immigrants on the population people might be a little less pissed off about that kind of shit.
 
Floyd Eye said:
Why not lay the blame where it belongs ? The NEA and the Dept. of Education. Most of those countries you pointed out are teaching kids English and other languages as a second language when they're about 5 or 6. Here foreign languages are electives and they aren't available until like 7th or 8th grade. Then we can talk about why Chinese kids know algebra when they're 7 and most kids here graduate high school without knowing it.

Also, perhaps people wouldn't feel it was so outlandish if it was natural immigration. I think you'll find most Americans are welcoming to newcomers historically. Maybe if we didn't just have an administration that over the course of 4 years forced 13 million illegal immigrants on the population people might be a little less pissed off about that kind of shit.
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Well the first part I kind of agree with. Our public school system is a hot mess for sure, but it’s also damned near impossible to make sure the students who need extra help get the help they need, and also those who can excel to get the extra attention they could use as well. Even myself can admit I wouldn’t want, or probably even be able to pay the taxes to afford that. Personally I would rather the ones that struggle get the help. That’s why I’m proud of my daughter for seeking out “extra” knowledge herself. Her teachers have been great at giving us extra work she can do at home to feel fulfilled.
Add to that, curriculums are based around passing standardized testing, and “foreign languages” is far too broad to be a part of such a system.

the rest is all conjecture and bias bro, and you know I don’t deal in that
 
You can call it conjecture if you want Dan. After all, you’re in New England not the rural Midwest. Where I am. And where 84Superchamp is.
 
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