5150 Cabs. any good? worth me getting for practices?

[OldSkoolNJ]

I bought the 1st 5150 head and straight cabinet that Sam Ash received back when they 1st came out..
Even though I didnt keep the 5150 head very long, I used that cabinet for a while with a Soldano Hot rod 50+ , VHT Pittbull & Lee jackson xls heads...
I thought the cabinet sounded good for my Original heavy stuff..
I only got rid of it because I needed something that sounded better for cleans in the Cover band I was in at the same time..

But I have never really been picky with 4x12 cabinets as long as they were a specific size or standard Marshall type size or Larger..
Then again I may be in the Minority that also liked the old Laney 4x12 cabinets with H&H Speakers

 

[edgeofdarkness]

They sound like greenbacks...dont let the marshall guys hear that.

 

[Tawlks]

peavey sheffields are terrible. how many people do you see using 5150s with the matching cab??

its all opinion - some hate them, some love them. and another guy right here

you're right it is all opinion, but when i know people who have tried to trade/sell them to multiple different stores and get turned away from all of them cause they each already have five of them they cant sell and 95% of 5150 users dont use the matching cab, i think thats gotta say something about the overall thought on sheffields. they get to a certain volume which is far lower than whats needed to jam with any band ive ever been in and turn in a farty disgusting mushy mess. id seriously put them on the level of a low line crate or one of those marshall mg cabs

why would you continue to state a reply with nothing more than more opinions?

i think its fucking stupid that people rave about the herbert, axe fx, celestion 65s which sound like mid-heavy ass to me with mid-emphasized amplifiers, and countless other gear products. so that must mean ignore my opinion because its not like the other 95% of people's opinions?

i think it has alot to do with the amplifier you played through it? my 5150 sounds good through sheffields, but sounds like ass through 75's - but that doesnt mean 75's sound like ass. i have played V30/75 mix cabinets through an egnater and sounded great. the 5150 cabinets were made to match the 5150, SLO, or a marshall. most people who have played them and have nothing major to complain about - own 5150s in this topic.

i have nothing wrong with the speakers other than what i described about their inconsistency speaker-to-speaker with subtle differences.

if you think they sound as bad as MG series cabinets - its again - all opinion. around the merry-go-round we go

I value your opinion dude, plus I'm the OP, so who gives a fuck? I'm reading. I may go for it, anyway, considering their construction is good, It'd be cheaper to get one and swap speakers and sell the Sheffields on to someone else than it would to buy an Avatar unloaded and add speakers.

How does contruction compare to Marshall 1960s?

 

[Strat+Marshall]

I am not sure were all the 5150 cab hate comes from. The cabs are built as good or better than other cabs in its price range (especially used). I had one myself that had been played and abused before I got it. There was no problems with the speakers at all. It handled cranked up Marshalls and an SLO with no problems whatsoever. The speakers are fairly smooth and balanced sounding, maybe not everyone's cup of tea but to put them in the same category as a MG cab or a crate is ridiculous.

 

[NinjaRaf]

When I got my combo, I feel into the Sheffields are crap hype. Bought a couple different things to try in there. I think the Sheffields sound really close to earcandy green machines, which sound really close to greenbacks, to my ears. I have found other speakers that I like better, such as eminence legend V12s, for that amp that are readily available. BUT, the sheffields are not as shitty as people make them out to be. The 5150 cab itself is a solid cab. For 100 bones, I would definitely get it, and maybe save up and get some new speakers later on. If you need something to stick at the practice space and something to use as a beater for gigs, I would definitely say go for it.

 

[reverymike]

The 5150 cabs sound great. . .especially with a 5150.

If they were good enough for EVH to tour the world with, then I'm guessing they'd be fine for you to use at practice.

I know we all like 'good' gear here, but come on. . .let the gear snobbery subside a little.

 

[eddyrox]

The 5150 cabs sound great. . .especially with a 5150.

If they were good enough for EVH to tour the world with, then I'm guessing they'd be fine for you to use at practice.

I know we all like 'good' gear here, but come on. . .let the gear snobbery subside a little.

+1 and agree with all of those folks who actually have played out and owned the 5150 cabs for a while.
The Sheffield 1200s in the 5150 cabs are similar voicing to the T75's IMO. I've got one cab with a pair of T75's and pair of Sheffields - similar in tone to the 412 with all Sheffields. YMMV.

 

[pioneerprogress]

As much as I love peavey I can't get along with their speakers. Despise blue marvels, the different sheffields are meh at best. My Windsor cab is decent, best sounding all peavey cab I've used, but something about it-i just can't get my amps to cut as well through it.
Construction wise peavey cabs are hard to beat. I don't know the current conversion rates but anything 200 USD or under is a good deal for a 5150 cab and you should have no trouble selling the quad of sheffields for 100 USD. You would still come out ahead.

 

[Jimmie]

I picked mine up for 100 bucks, and its worth every penny, but not a penny more. The cab is built like a tank and once I shitcan the Shefields and put a real set of speakers in, am going to be very happy with it. What really fucks it up is when I play a percussive song like "them Bones" by Alice in chains, I know if I leave the volume cranked something is going to break, its that bad. Eddie wouldn't have endorsed this cab if he had heard the one am trying to play through...

 

[jabps]

Once again guys...the Sheffield 1200's were voiced to Ed specs which at the time were worn out GB's. I remember when I got my 5150 and ran it through my Marshall 4x12 with GT 75's...I hated that cab and speaker combo with that amp...granted alot of people swear buy it but the 1200 is a bit scooped scooped in the mids...which works well with the 5150 because that amps got tons of aggressive mids.

Oddly enough from that point on I despised GT75's for nearly 16 years...and now those speakers are in my main live cab.

Jimmie your speakers are obviously jacked. But yeah the cabs construction is rock solid.

 

[Jimmie]

Jimmie your speakers are obviously jacked. But yeah the cabs construction is rock solid.

Yep, its put together better than the Marshall 1960 Classic I have, or I would have flipped it a long time ago. Deeper cab too, so am anticipating getting some hellacious bottom end out of it.

 

[xiwiwix]

I have a BEAT TO FUCKING MY BALLS SHIT WITH A BAT 5150 straight 4x12 cab and this mother fucker is still kicking ass! It went on a few tours before I got it, two of the speakers are worn to death and both have cracks now. I used it for about a year then noticed a phasing problem after one recording session and two the speakers where tearing. I have it put to the side and I'm waiting on another 12t75 160hm to show up so I can get the x pattern going. Some of the figner joints are broken, there is no long any tolex on the bottom, I've had to rescrew some of the screws that hold the back panel up, but like I said before the speakers messed up it was still kicking ass.

So yes they are built like a fucking German Tank.

I completely agree, they sound like Greenbacks, and have a similar top end to my vht fat bottom P50E's but just not as tight. I prefer the 5150 cab to the VHT cab with my 5150 combo, it has a bigger more aggressive sound.

I also have a green Peavey cab 4x12, 3/4's back; forgot the name but it's only a few years old. It kicks all kinds of ass for recording but when it comes to a live show, bring out the donkey dick. Bright harsh and shitty.

My combo has stock speakers but I've been thinking about getting some greenbacks.

Disclaimer:
This is all my opinion and should not be consider fact, with the exception of how beat my 5150 cab is. That thing is really fucked up! But the box sealed box itself is completely intact.

 

[xiwiwix]

I have heard of this farty sound some one talked about earlier, they had the Depth, Bass, and Gain maxed out on a 5150 II head. It was kind like the Mesa blackshadows 90wats I had; they farted out with my PowerBall and UBerschall. My G-Flex Genz Benz would also do this with some amps.

IMO the best test for farty speakers is a Mesa Triple Recto. That amp is fart-tastic becacause it's fucking tone is JUST SOO HUGE!!!

My UBerKab never farted out on me once! EVER!!!!! No matter what I thru at it, that mother fucker killed!

 

[Zozobra]

For 100 bones you wont do much better. You might get a beater 1960a for £150 off ebay but convincing people to ship them is a pain and also I dont know if T75s are really the best option for a 5150. I'd say buy it and if you dont like it then flip it on. You wont lose all that much dollar on it.

 

[RaceU4her]

if i was having open tryouts and some dude showed up with a sheffield cab i probably wouldnt even let him in, theres no way im gonna be able to hear him over the rest of the band and all hes gonna do is muddy up the mix and piss me off killing his chances so whats the point? id tell him that cab might work for his side project but not this one and come back with a marshall or something

 

[Shiny_Surface]

if i was having open tryouts and some dude showed up with a sheffield cab i probably wouldnt even let him in, theres no way im gonna be able to hear him over the rest of the band and all hes gonna do is muddy up the mix and piss me off killing his chances so whats the point? id tell him that cab might work for his side project but not this one and come back with a marshall or something

What if he showed up with a Mark series amp and a Sheffield.

Raceu4her heart attack.

 

[glpg80]

if i was having open tryouts and some dude showed up with a sheffield cab i probably wouldnt even let him in, theres no way im gonna be able to hear him over the rest of the band and all hes gonna do is muddy up the mix and piss me off killing his chances so whats the point? id tell him that cab might work for his side project but not this one and come back with a marshall or something

funny.

i was doing tryouts for a band once, a simple side cover project for a band who needed a lead player. only brought 3 things - sheffield straight 5150 cabinet, my 5150 II, and my wolfgang.

the main guitarist (rhythm) was running not one, but two marshall cabinets with V30's through a marshall DSL and a lester with an assortment of pedals - the bass rig was a 4x10/1x15 rig, drummer was mic'ed through their PA.

i had no problem - at all - sitting in the mix. as a matter of fact, i actually cut too much and was too loud. i had to keep turning down - i was around 3 on the volume, kept having to bump down to 2.5-2.8 when i normally practice with my band playing on 4.

it sounded great, actually. no effects and no BS.

so if you are judging the person by the gear they are using and not the person playing - you are only screwing yourself. tells alot about the kind of person you are.

 

[xiwiwix]

if i was having open tryouts and some dude showed up with a sheffield cab i probably wouldnt even let him in, theres no way im gonna be able to hear him over the rest of the band and all hes gonna do is muddy up the mix and piss me off killing his chances so whats the point? id tell him that cab might work for his side project but not this one and come back with a marshall or something

That's a pretty narrow closed minded view, IMO bro.

I've seen signed bands use them on tour, the one I own was used on tour with a signed band and saw4 continents, and you're not only saying it's not good enough for your basement/bedroom but you snub your nose at people who use them? FUCK YEAH! Right on! FUCK YOU EVH!!! You're not even allowed to breath because you invited this piece of shit cab!

It's starting to feel like the good ol' days when HCAF kicked ass! WOOHOOO!!!



Maybe I should burn mine and put it on youtube!

 

[Strat+Marshall]

if i was having open tryouts and some dude showed up with a sheffield cab i probably wouldnt even let him in, theres no way im gonna be able to hear him over the rest of the band and all hes gonna do is muddy up the mix and piss me off killing his chances so whats the point? id tell him that cab might work for his side project but not this one and come back with a marshall or something

Would you beg to be cockslapped afterward?