5153 100S

[TX6Strings]

Anybody have the new 5153 100S? Does the blue channel compare to the 50 watt blue channel? Is the clean and red the same? I just picked up the 50 watt and while I love it the fact that it's not three fully independent channels is pissing me off. I thought about the regular 100 but why not go for more?! lol

 

[nevusofota]

Haven't played the 100S yet but as you know the following differences over the standard 100 are:
1. increased gain on channel 2 and 3
2. Resonance controls for all three channels. The standard 100w has no resonance controls.
3. 100S comes with Wing C 6L6's while the standard comes with standard 6L6's

I have both the 50w and 100w and like the 100w more. Apparently the 100S has the same increased gain of channel 2 that the 50w has. I like the standard 100w because it has less amp gain on channel 2. This suits my purposes better. I like boosted gain over amp gain, its tighter, less compressed, and less fizzy. Overall the 100S doesn't appeal to me, especially without the midi input. I feel this was more important than the resonance controls. I especially don't feel its worth $600 more.

 

[the4thlast1]

I have one on the way. Very excited about it. The original version of the 5153 has been my go to amp for a few years now.

I will have the original 100 watt version here along side the 100s to do direct comparisons. I will report back !

 

[mniel8195]

i thought i remembered someone saying the wing c tubes didn't sound good in the evh amps?

 

[SFW]

To me, not including MIDI was foolish. The amp has plenty of bottom without the need for the resonance knobs. I'll just keep my mark I version.

 

[BYTOR]

Apart from both channel 2&3 having increased gain, channel 2 is also re-voiced for improved low-mid frequency definition, while channel 3 will have improved range for the low control.

The amp will also have adjustable bias control. Hopefully I'll have mine by next week....

 

[the4thlast1]

i thought i remembered someone saying the wing c tubes didn't sound good in the evh amps?

Yeah I was one of the guys who said I didnt like SED's in the EVH.... I like Sovteks or Rubys in the power section. Not that SED's are "bad" they just seem to be a bit too mid focused for this amp IMO.

 

[SFW]

Apart from both channel 2&3 having increased gain, channel 2 is also re-voiced for improved low-mid frequency definition, while channel 3 will have improved range for the low control.

The amp will also have adjustable bias control. Hopefully I'll have mine by next week....

Correct me if I am wrong, but the original 100 watt version has a bias adjustment already. I adjusted the bias on my amp when I changed the power tubes. Are they moving the adjustment and probe points to make them serviceable without removing the chassis?

 

[rp108]

I have one on the way. Very excited about it. The original version of the 5153 has been my go to amp for a few years now.

I will have the original 100 watt version here along side the 100s to do direct comparisons. I will report back !

Where did you get it from? I am not seeing much about this amp.

 

[nevusofota]

Apart from both channel 2&3 having increased gain, channel 2 is also re-voiced for improved low-mid frequency definition, while channel 3 will have improved range for the low control.

The amp will also have adjustable bias control. Hopefully I'll have mine by next week....

Correct me if I am wrong, but the original 100 watt version has a bias adjustment already. I adjusted the bias on my amp when I changed the power tubes. Are they moving the adjustment and probe points to make them serviceable without removing the chassis?

Yes, that is what I read. I can't believe these changes are going to bring $600 more for the amp. Great marketing scheme.

 

[sgill72]

Yes, that is what I read. I can't believe these changes are going to bring $600 more for the amp. Great marketing scheme.

And some pay more than that for Friedman mods. It's all relative bro.

Bias feature
Channel revoicing
Resonance knobs for each channel

Seems fair considering what Suhr/Friedman charge.

But wait! They're boutique...

 

[nevusofota]

Yes, that is what I read. I can't believe these changes are going to bring $600 more for the amp. Great marketing scheme.

And some pay more than that for Friedman mods. It's all relative bro.

Bias feature
Channel revoicing
Resonance knobs for each channel

Seems fair considering what Suhr/Friedman charge.

But wait! They're boutique...

Yes, I agree. However, you can get a used Marshall for $600, do all those mods you speak of and walk away with an awesome amp for $1200-$1500. The EVH 100S is over $3000.

 

[BYTOR]

Yes, I agree. However, you can get a used Marshall for $600, do all those mods you speak of and walk away with an awesome amp for $1200-$1500. The EVH 100S is over $3000.

Where the fuck did you get that the EVH 100s is over $3000? You are obviously talking the price with head + cab.......the head alone is $2199.

 

[nevusofota]

Yes, that is what I read. I can't believe these changes are going to bring $600 more for the amp. Great marketing scheme.

And some pay more than that for Friedman mods. It's all relative bro.

Bias feature
Channel revoicing
Resonance knobs for each channel

Seems fair considering what Suhr/Friedman charge.

But wait! They're boutique...

Also, here is my take on the 100S "upgrades":
Bias is already adjustable on the standard 100 (just not external)
I don't consider simply adding gain to a channel as "re-voicing". The standard 100w has over-the-top gain the way it is.
The 100w amp through a 4x12 doesn't need a resonance knob, much less 3. I placed the resonance knob of the 50w at noon the first day of owning it and haven't touched it since. The front panel EQ knobs alone have plenty of sweep. Resonance knob was initially added to the 50w version to help the low end thump through the smaller cabs. The 100w version doesn't need this, especially at volume through a 4x12.

 

[nevusofota]

Yes, I agree. However, you can get a used Marshall for $600, do all those mods you speak of and walk away with an awesome amp for $1200-$1500. The EVH 100S is over $3000.

Where the fuck did you get that the EVH 100s is over $3000? You are obviously talking the price with head + cab.......the head alone is $2199.

I was looking at the EVH website http://www.evhgear.com/gear/?section=amplifiers

So it looks like from the new street prices the 100s is about $400 more than the standard 100w ($1800 vs $2200). Still not worth it to me. Hell, you can get a mint used 100w for under a grand all day.

 

[sgill72]

It has a mid revoicing and a clarity revoicing.

So quick to judge without even hearing it or playing through it...but whatever.

To each their own.

 

[nevusofota]

I totally agree that an opinion is unfounded if you haven't played the gear in question. However, the 100w has been my main amp for over 6 years. I also own the 50w. While its not the perfect amp, I do feel it is one of the best high gain production amps ever made. It does many things very well. Furthermore, I don't feel the changes that were made to create the 100s correlate to what was lacking in the standard. I hope I get blown away by the changes. I just don't think that it is going to happen.

 

[232cap]

 

[mindseye]

Lets see, a redesigned and no MIDI......mind go BOOM!

 

[Bishop5150]

I got the halfstack ordered. Should be here in a week or two. Me personally I can't wait to get it and I already own 2 ivory 100 watt halfstacks and an ivory 50 watt and 2x12 cab. I wanted a black one and would rather have the stealth limited addition than the regular one. I liked having the resonance on my old original Peavey 5150 so I'm sure I'll like having it on this one. I'm looking forward to hearing the revoiced mid's and extra gain on channel 2 is a plus ala the 50 watt head.