6x12 Guitar Cab Logic

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I play doom. Full stacks. Loud.

I've been thinking of getting a 6x12 cab and just rocking that instead of the Mesa cabs. I have a utility trailer, so lugging around gear is not the issue. I think it would be cool. The details are what have me hung up.

A 6x12 cab would need to have different impedance speakers to make a correct impedance load. So, if you put four 16 ohm speakers and two 8 ohm speakers, and wired the 16 ohm speakers series parallel (16 ohms), wired the two 8 ohm speakers in series (16 ohms), and ran everything in in parallel, you would get an 8 ohm cab. This issue, assuming all of the speakers were the same type, would be that the 8 ohm speakers would be louder than the 16 ohm speakers. On the flip side, if you use four 8 ohm speakers series parallel (8 ohms), and two 16 ohm speakers in parallel (8 ohms), you would have one 4 ohm cab with the four 8 ohm speakers being louder than the other two. Either way, you end up with some of the speakers louder that the others.

Are you going to notice this in the room or on stage? Probably not. However, Mr. or Mrs. Sound Technician only mics one speaker anyways. What would be the advantages or disadvantages of having the mic'ed up speaker at a different volume than the rest of the speakers? Then there is the difference of where my head would be at practice or on stage vs where the audience would hear the cab from the stage. Do you lay it out with the louder speakers on top or on the bottom?

Then, if you get into mixing speakers, you can essentially neutralize this difference by using different speaker efficiencies. The problem there is that your sound engineer will only mic one speaker and you don't get a true picture of what the cab sounds like through the FOH system. You pick one or the other, even though you dialed your amp in to sound good through both. Do you even mess with mixing speakers, and how do you go about matching that up?
 
I have a buddy that went thru this with a Sunn 6x12 that he bought empty and loaded up. He used all 16 ohm speakers. He wired three speakers together in parallel to themselves to give a 5.33 total load. He did the same thing with the other three. Then he connected the the two trios in series. This put a total impedance of 10.66 ohms at the jack. Then he just ran his amp at 8 ohms. All speakers receive the same amount of power, and the ohms mismatch is so small that his amp still operates and sounds fine. If anything, it probably runs a little cooler this way.
 
Just get one of these.

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I run a 212 on top of my 412. It's awesome. I have an amp for each cab so I can control the volume to each cab.
 
Weber makes speakers for 6x12" that run at a standard impedence. I love their speakers too, although all of my weber speakers are prior to Ted's passing.
 
swamptrashstompboxes":3gs0js1h said:
Weber makes speakers for 6x12" that run at a standard impedence. I love their speakers too, although all of my weber speakers are prior to Ted's passing.

I just went nuts searching for 12 ohm speakers. I will continue this quest once I get my mind back in my skull. I need to think about that for a little while.
 
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