A heart felt note to the folks at Fractal...

[drs448]

I'm sure glad that all my 30 year old Marshall's aren't obsolete....

awesome

 

[gbsmusic]

Remarks like that will not get you invited to Christmas dinner....

 

[ejecta]

Tis fun, indeed.

Oh dude...it's better than fun

I do feel badly for anyone who JUST spent 2k on an Ultra, but to watch the race to sell the newly obsolete units is nothing less than hysterical.

I'm waiting for people to start advertising free blow jobs if you purchase THEIR Ultra

People act as though they've never lost a dime on the purchase of NEW gear....gotta admit, I'm a little confused by my fellow Axe owners

It's not much unlike all the Cameron mods that came up for sale once it was clear Brad was bringing the CCV to the market except those mods were fewer in number compared to the Axe units out there. It happens with a lot of things but all the bitching over the AxeFX 2 is hilarious.

it's technology. I used to buy the newest fastest Apple Powermac every six months when they would release a new one even if it was only 100MHZ faster. The old one would go on ebay, I'd take my losses and buy the new one just to have the fastest. The only time I sold my used computer for more than I paid for it new is when Apple discontinued the Powermac 9600 and switched to G3 Blueberry, I won't get into why. The only men I can see getting upset over this are those who bought new within the last month but I bet most of them bought used. It's not like your going to lose millions to upgrade, geez. men don't even know if the new version is really realer or not. If that clip of the Hoseay Marshall on the Axe-Fx is really version II, I'd hang on to my old one if I had one.

I completely agree. Up until about 2 years ago I hadn't played much in the digital modeling realm at all and you helped me by suggesting some plugs and even told me about the 11r and even tried the Axe. At that time I wanted the modeling to sound and feel just like my tube amp which never happened but I did get some decent tones. That said IMHO the Axe was better of all the ones I tried. Since I could still crank my amps at the time I didn't want to spend that much on a modeler. Now I can't crank a tube amp and need to solely rely on a direct solution..... I've let go of the "has to sound like a tube amp" and I'm happy with the Axe.

The main reasons I'm getting the 2 is so that I have something that is expandable and the new hardware features that will make reamping, 4CM, unity gain through out, BMT knobs on the front if I want and using a midi foot controller wile still having the editor open etc. I'm not getting it expecting it will sound more realer.

you'll just need a robe and sandals and you will really fit in

 

[jerrydyer]

sag you say?

 

[BYTOR]

There is no one thinking that there Ultra or Standard does not sound great anymore.
They are just gassing for the new more feature rich unit.
Tooob guys are always having amps modded and all sorts of crap to try and make them sound better etc...
I hear amps in clubs sound like shit all the time and the same with digital gear. Also hear both sound awesome other times. Comes down to the players ears and chops.
It is not an either or thing guys. I own some of the best amps ever and also the Ultra. The Ultra hangs with any of them. Period. And is an all in one wonder machine. This won't and hasn't changed.
I will be buying an Axe Fx2 also because i can and I want the latest shit that Cliff at Fractal puts out.
I don't have to sell gear to fund it and my Ultra is going nowhere. It will always sound awesome.
I love normal amps(I will be getting the new PT100 when it comes out) but it is not an either or thing. Different flavors and colors bitches. Most who hate just don't got the cash
or are simpletons. Expand your horizons earthworms

 

[racer_j]

I heard the new version doesn't sound as good as the ultra.

Will it have a model for AxeFX Standard and Ultra?

Jason

 

[racer_j]

men don't even know if the new version is really realer or not..

You can take it from an unbiased source....Scott Peterson...

Regarding the AxeII; It's different. It's clearly a different beast; the in-the-room thing with the higher resolution IR's from the cab block and the deeper amp algorithms equate to an added depth, complexity and 'sing'. It's inspiring - like the finest amps - and will make you smile as you play.

This not just an Ultra on steroids with some physical features thrown in. This is a fully realized and different beast. The G2 (Gen 2) modeling is a head turner. The response to dialing down the guitar's volume is stunning - it still sings and is full of 'juicy goodness' like ripe fruit. The sweet spots for dialing up amp/cab tones is honestly simpler with the new modeling and the addition of physical knobs (five of them; the big value knob too!) makes it as fast to dial up stuff as it is in the editor. It is just 'more' goodness. The new effects are stunning. The whole experience is a different thing. It takes all the strengths of the Standard and Ultra, builds upon them and makes it simpler to both work with and faster to get the 'sweet spots' zeroed in.

That's no hype, no BS. I will be posting in far more detail sooner than later.

This is a different smile. It's bigger and more toothy than the last 11 smiles. It's like the finest amps again and the effects are more stunninger.

From what it sounds like they finally have their hardware up to what Line 6 had 10 years ago or so, as far a knobs and headphone out and USB.

 

[killertone]

The greatest thing about this whole soap operatic, internet forum only, axe fx shitstorm is that I could not give two fucking shits. Makes it easy for me.

 

[Rogue]

Two AxeFXs have come up on CL here in Nashville. I've only ever seen one other Axe for sale on CL here and that was the one I was selling.

 

[ttosh]

Interesting point from a guy on HRI

"In AxeFXII news,

http://forum.fractalaudio.com/axe-fx-ii ... ead-2.html

It looks like the amp simulations are NOT expected to sound the same.

Simple one! How would you compare the realism of the amp sims of the ultra vs. Axe 2. Let's say Ultra was like 85% there, is the Axe 2 that much different, do we compare a Ford to a Rolls Royce here? Thanks!

cliff wrote:100%. Seriously.

That is definitely good news for Fractal, and good news for people thinking about buying an AxeFX. But it's terrible news for Standard and Ultra owners. If it's a significant improvement in sound quality, which even I'll admit seems hard to imagine, resale values will have to drop crazy fast. Which means that the Axe Standard and Ultra are destined to become the most targeted bargain boxes for effects-only on guitar rigs.

Crazy. Sounds like presets won't be compatible with Ultra presets. Sounds like this is more of a complete overhaul/new design than we anticipated."

 

[ejecta]

cliff wrote:100%. Seriously.

and Axe-Fx III will be 110%

The current ones are already at 110% according to some.

 

[Rogue]

Simple one! How would you compare the realism of the amp sims of the ultra vs. Axe 2. Let's say Ultra was like 85% there, is the Axe 2 that much different, do we compare a Ford to a Rolls Royce here? Thanks!

cliff wrote:100%. Seriously.

It's official now, the AxeFX sounds just like an real amp. Cliff said so.

How many versions of more realer do you guys think 2.0 will get that will sound realer than the one before it before a new model released?

 

[Deleted member 3860]

...

 

[Rogue]

You guys are crazy. 110% will happen by version 1.1 and only get better with subsequent releases.

AxeFX III will make angels cry.

 

[Deleted member 3860]

...

 

[AmpliFIRE]

You guys are crazy. 110% will happen by version 1.1 and only get better with subsequent releases.

AxeFX III will make angels cry.

 

[steve_k]

The new algorithms will be so superior to actual amps, that soon the AFXII will be emulating amps that haven't been designed yet.
Reinhold Bogner will have to buy an AFXII just to see what amp he should create next. (think Spaceballs)

R~

Funny shit............

 

[polaris20]

And apparently, some MEN did indeed base their BUY button hit on the fact they'd spoken with FA-HQ and were ensured all was well and nothing new was coming out... This is where some of the potential legal and financial charge back repurcussions are starting to brew.

V.

"Legal"? Oh fucking come on. There's no legally binding contract from someone calling up and asking "hey, is there anything new coming out?" "No, not at this point".

The price is/was $2000 for these features. These people either liked it for that amount and agreed upon it, or they don't. What a bunch of chapped ass, sandy vagina douchebags.

Do you honestly think for one second that if I e-mailed Steve Jobs himself if there was a new iPhone coming out next month he'd say "yeah there is, don't buy an iPhone 4 right now".

Self-entitled dipshits. They don't have a leg to stand on.

 

[polaris20]

Interesting point from a guy on HRI

"In AxeFXII news,

http://forum.fractalaudio.com/axe-fx-ii ... ead-2.html

It looks like the amp simulations are NOT expected to sound the same.

Simple one! How would you compare the realism of the amp sims of the ultra vs. Axe 2. Let's say Ultra was like 85% there, is the Axe 2 that much different, do we compare a Ford to a Rolls Royce here? Thanks!

cliff wrote:100%. Seriously.

That is definitely good news for Fractal, and good news for people thinking about buying an AxeFX. But it's terrible news for Standard and Ultra owners. If it's a significant improvement in sound quality, which even I'll admit seems hard to imagine, resale values will have to drop crazy fast. Which means that the Axe Standard and Ultra are destined to become the most targeted bargain boxes for effects-only on guitar rigs.

Crazy. Sounds like presets won't be compatible with Ultra presets. Sounds like this is more of a complete overhaul/new design than we anticipated."

Right, because $2000 boxes that were so OMGFUGGINUNBELIEVABLE a week ago are now only going to be suitable for effects.

 

[ttosh]

Interesting point from a guy on HRI

"In AxeFXII news,

http://forum.fractalaudio.com/axe-fx-ii ... ead-2.html

It looks like the amp simulations are NOT expected to sound the same.

Simple one! How would you compare the realism of the amp sims of the ultra vs. Axe 2. Let's say Ultra was like 85% there, is the Axe 2 that much different, do we compare a Ford to a Rolls Royce here? Thanks!

cliff wrote:100%. Seriously.

That is definitely good news for Fractal, and good news for people thinking about buying an AxeFX. But it's terrible news for Standard and Ultra owners. If it's a significant improvement in sound quality, which even I'll admit seems hard to imagine, resale values will have to drop crazy fast. Which means that the Axe Standard and Ultra are destined to become the most targeted bargain boxes for effects-only on guitar rigs.

Crazy. Sounds like presets won't be compatible with Ultra presets. Sounds like this is more of a complete overhaul/new design than we anticipated."

Right, because $2000 boxes that were so OMGFUGGINUNBELIEVABLE a week ago are now only going to be suitable for effects.

I know it is so cool these $2000 boxes are already selling for under $1500 on eBay. $1500 better give me more than effects, gheez they have to drop another $300 for effects only.