A thread about simplicity

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You started this topic at 7am..
Is this the result of an all night bender?? LOL
 
How would I know what I like if I don’t try things out and experiment. Even the single HB, single channel amp would be something that was tried out. Maybe I’m missing the point but trying to understand, is it a knock to try new gear or something else?
 
Smash said:
I did the piano one. I have made these mistakes. That is why i have to find an amp that beats mind before i move on. Plus i really love mine
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😅 😉 I'm really happy with my Lenz Modded Marshall, but now i'm thinking about how his original Lenz Octane would sound compared to it :D
And i was thinking about a new cab. And a new guitar. 😂
 
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MadAsAHatter said:
14. Give up on ever sounding good, sell everything, and take up playing bass.
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I thought about Bass. But it comes more or less with the same problems. At least if you was playing the Guitar before :D
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Simon Dorn said:
I thought about Bass. But it comes more or less with the same problems. At least if you was playing the Guitar before :D
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I know what you're getting at.

I play bass too, but go at it from a guitar player's perspective. It needs to sound good coming from the amp and cab. It's weird though when you actually go on bass forums. They're not at all concerned about tone the same was a a guitar player. Very few bass players, except the old guys seem more about going straight DI and letting the mixing board/FOH take care of tone shaping. They don't use pure volume or mic cabs to project their sound and tone. It's like amp & cab are for stage monitoring purposes and have nothing to do with tone shaping. In my mind that's the mot bland thing you can do. Then again, I'm one of those old farts who want to blast my amp through a refrigerator sized 8x10 or 4x15 Lemmy style.
 
Smash said:
I am not saying you are wrong. But I think it is only accurate for 1/3.

And when I say a third, I am not saying equal parts. Take Rig-talk; you have three tiers. You have musicians: @DanTravis62 , @Techdeth , @VonBonfire , etc, You have tone snobs: @braintheory , me, etc. But then you have this third tier of almost mutant like people. I can't tag anyone to this because it is just too fucking mean. But I would think they are more like what you describe. I think they look for gear either in a nonscientific way or in a hopeful magical way; like the gear is going to make them a better player. They buy a brand and become a brand whore and that brand is best and all other is shit, until a month later when they get a new piece of gear.

For guys like DanTravis or Techie, they appreciate a lot of gear, but at the end of the day could make a shit load of basic gear "work"
I have a friend I won't tag that is interested in higher end gear, but still calls it snake oil, and just makes music.

For guys like me and Sam, and SAm, please forgive me for talking for you and lumping you in with me, but I think we look for the gear to complement our playing and to keep us inspired. I have used basic gear before and made some cool stuff, but i tire of working on projects with shit really quickly. So it is easier to use gear where you get a great sound, and it inspires you to continue. I found this long ago with acoustic guitars.

I suppose you could add a fourth. And these people are the sickest of us all. They have storage containers and garages full of amps. The amp hoarders are great, too. At the end of the day, all of us are sick or we wouldn't be on this site talking about this shit, obsessing over this shit. But I am glad we are.
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I think anyone that’s at least a semi decent player can make subpar gear work just fine for them, but that’s not what it’s about. It’s more like being a foodie, some guys really into cars, etc, just being into something and trying to experience the best stuff out there without needing more purpose beyond the enjoyment of that. Some “real musicians” are passionate about that too and some not so much

I guess I wouldn’t be in the real musician category since electric guitar isn’t my main thing, but for classical guitar my approach probably is more similar to those guys. I have actually just 3 or 4 keeper classical guitars lol, but part of it is because the rabbit hole in that world isn’t as deep. For the best guitar luthiers there are just about a dozen to know about and tone really is largely in the fingers on classical vs electric, but we say right hand technique instead lol
 
I have a lot of stuff, but my biggest problem is how disorganized my space is.
Just need to have it set up where it's minimal effort to grab a guitar and just play.

All of my stuff does fit in one room, so I don't consider myself a hoarder (yet),
but I do have a few things that could definitely go.
I'll get them listed eventually.
 
Give me a jcm 800 2204, les paul, sd-1 and a tuner pedal. Done. Don't need nothing
else....even though I have a shit ton of gear, like 99% of the gear hoarders here.....lol
 
I love amps. I’ve just got better at not buying superfluous versions of what I already have. Dig pedals too. I like having a variety of boosts, drives and fuzz because you never know which one will be the right match with a certain amp/setting and guitar to give you what you’re going for. For years now I don’t buy anything serious without the intent of keeping it for good. Not a flipper. When I buy on a whim it tends to be stuff I stumble across that kicks ass while being cheap. Unfortunately unemployment has rendered my purchasing power moot as my last great purchase was a $25 Behringer pedal and a $12 guitar stand 😥
 
stratjacket said:
How would I know what I like if I don’t try things out and experiment. Even the single HB, single channel amp would be something that was tried out. Maybe I’m missing the point but trying to understand, is it a knock to try new gear or something else?
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Trying new gear is the best. The honeymoon peaks and valleys over and over is the curious thing. Once we recognize a pattern, it should give us insight
 
I have 5 great amps and haven't bought a new one in over a decade. I'll try out pickups and pedals, but guitars and amps are constant. I've been playing out in bands for 30 yrs. When I was younger and had dreams of making it, I constantly flipped amps always wanting to outdo the next guy. I tried them all and was never satisfied. I got older and wiser and realized I prefer a driven Marshall based tone and quit fighting it. I focus now on technique and the way I play and find I get much bigger tonal improvement with that. But I blew a lot of money being young and stupid.
 
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