ABY Help/Discussion

[Deleted member 26052]

Lehle and Radial both have nice pro stuff. If you are going to play out better to not mess with going cheap and get the Lehle. I had one long ago and it was great.
But, just playing at home these days and I went with a cheaper option; it is a Chinese clone for like 35 bucks. Active and does the job for home use at least. I’ll try and paste a link later.

May consider that option as this is not for professional use. My biggest concern would be tone loss and phase issues.

 

[Racerxrated]

May consider that option as this is not for professional use. My biggest concern would be tone loss and phase issues.

I’ve run mine with my Mesa Coliseum, 72 Tremolo and Triple Recto with no issues. Going back a few years I’ve had some more stock and modded Marshall’s, Naylor, VHTs, SLOs and not had any tone suck that I can tell. First thing I did is run the amp straight in then use the ABY and it sounded the same. No phase issues. Lehle will be the superior unit, no doubt. But this cheapo has worked just fine for Madison Square basement

 

[John4021]

I have a LEHLE 1AT3 SGOS I was going to list in the sale ads.
Mint. Box. All the stuff that came with it.

 

[Dopethrone]

I believe the Radial Headlight is buffered and allows you to switch up to 4 amps. The outputs are isolated, but I'm not sure if it has a polarity switch.

Shotgun has polarity
Radial makes awesome gear
I have 3 shotguns

 

[Ventura]

https://lehle.com/EN/Lehle-Dual-SGoS
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[Deleted member 26052]

https://lehle.com/EN/Lehle-Dual-SGoS
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This one looks really good, what sounds appealing are the volume controls. Sounds like you can mix the different amps volumes how you like to make one louder than the other? If so that is pretty great but not sure if worth an extra $100 to me for that feature.

https://www.fulltone.com/products/custom-shop-true-path-cs-aby-st-v2
This seems pretty comparable to the Lehle little dual ii, if I am reading the descriptions correctly and $43 cheaper. I may go this route.

 

[Ventura]

This one looks really good, what sounds appealing are the volume controls. Sounds like you can mix the different amps volumes how you like to make one louder than the other? If so that is pretty great but not sure if worth an extra $100 to me for that feature.

https://www.fulltone.com/products/custom-shop-true-path-cs-aby-st-v2
This seems pretty comparable to the Lehle little dual ii, if I am reading the descriptions correctly and $43 cheaper. I may go this route.

Honestly, nothing comes close to the degree of quality that Lehle puts out at this pricepoint. I've had my S-Go-S for a decade now(??) and it's been stepped on, beaten, jacked with wrong voltages, rolled over, yada yada yada... Thing not only works *perfectly* well, noiseless, the ground lift is awesome as is the phase-polarity option, I mean - just impeccable - but it still LOOKS brand new ?????

I'm always amazed - it's one of those pieces of kit I've bought and have actually taken for granted - because it's just amazing. Currently on the floor right now - by my left foot - one of the best pieces of gear I ever bought. And their customer service is next level if you have ANY questions - boom - within 24 hours they've got a case number and everything with a tech assigned to YOUR specific question no matter how lame or tame or moot it may be. And ya, the separate vol pots to adjust when blending - exceptional - AND the tuner out can also be used for ANOTHER amp - go figure.

No I don't work for them.
Yes, they're THAT good.

Seriously.
Peace

 

[ZEEGLER]

Great, thank you so much for your help.

Hey man no problem. I just realized that you are Maddnotez from GGF.

Cheers dude!

 

[IIBornotIIB]

Radial Twin City is a real good option: ABY, buffered, with ground and phase switches. Sturdy build, too. Extremely happy with mine!

 

[Deleted member 26052]

I ordered the Fulltone. Their description made it sound legit and it seems to have all the same features as the rest. Plus I like the color and small platform.

Would have 3 days to test and return it. My onlt hang up is spending an extra $100 for the volume blends on the Lehle. But I could do that with each amp anyway I assume right? Not sure if that's worth a $100 luxury.

 

[Devin]

Yeah I'd prefer one without volume controls - that's just one more thing pointlessly loading down the circuit

I could see it being useful if your amps amazingly didn't have volume knobs on them

 

[Deleted member 26052]

Yeah I'd prefer one without volume controls - that's just one more thing pointlessly loading down the circuit

I could see it being useful if your amps amazingly didn't have volume knobs on them

If you buy a Peaverty from Facebook you might not have volume knobs.

 

[Deleted member 26052]

Anyway I'll post with what I think. Have the Fortin with Avatar/G12H-30 and Peavey Ultra with crappy cab. Waiting on the Monomyth Origin to be done. Hell maybe I do need the Lehle and a 3rd cab that would be overkill.

 

[RedB4Black]

I had a lehle dual SGOs that was great. Spilled beer on it and the output A just sounded off after that. So I bought the Fulltone Custom shop pedal trying to save some $. It was a nice pedal, but I was getting some noise I didn't like. So sold it and bought a new Lehle. All is well now. lol

 

[Ventura]

Yeah I'd prefer one without volume controls - that's just one more thing pointlessly loading down the circuit

I could see it being useful if your amps amazingly didn't have volume knobs on them

The volume pots on the Lehle unit are actively in-circuit, so they're actually super helpful when going from either A or B to running both A and B amps simultaneously to compensate for red-levels when recording in stereo/dual-mono, or stage volume when switching from 1 amp to 2 amps on the fly.

Volume and amp output are additive when running stereo or dual heads - each amp sounds perfect on its own - but when combined - you goose your levels and SPLs; so these pots are designed to kick in to keep levels managed when going from 1 amp to 2 - they're only active when both amps are engaged.

I hope the Fulltone unit rocks!!! Give us an update when it lands!!!

 

[studiodunn]

Lehel Dual is the absolute best quality

 

[Devin]

Lehle gear is awesome, no doubt. I used to have a Little Lehle and the build quality was impressive. Love their footswitch design

 

[ZEEGLER]

I ordered the Fulltone. Their description made it sound legit and it seems to have all the same features as the rest. Plus I like the color and small platform.

Would have 3 days to test and return it. My onlt hang up is spending an extra $100 for the volume blends on the Lehle. But I could do that with each amp anyway I assume right? Not sure if that's worth a $100 luxury.

The first ABY box I bought was a cheapo Donner unit off Amazon, and it has the level controls for each channel. They are actually very handy because you can fine tune the volume of each amp at the pedal rather than walking all the way over to each amp to adjust the volume. (Obviously that's not really a big deal). Unfortunately that unit does not have isolated outputs, so it makes both amps hum like a sonovabitch.

Anyway, the level controls while handy are really unnecessary.


That's why they offer the Little Dual II as another option
https://lehle.com/EN/Lehle-Little-Dual-II

 

[Deleted member 26052]

The first ABY box I bought was a cheapo Donner unit off Amazon, and it has the level controls for each channel. They are actually very handy because you can fine tune the volume of each amp at the pedal rather than walking all the way over to each amp to adjust the volume. (Obviously that's not really a big deal). Unfortunately that unit does not have isolated outputs, so it makes both amps hum like a sonovabitch.

Anyway, the level controls while handy are really unnecessary.


That's why they offer the Little Dual II as another option
https://lehle.com/EN/Lehle-Little-Dual-II

Have you tried the Fulltone? Is the Lehle that much better?

 

[ZEEGLER]

Have you tried the Fulltone? Is the Lehle that much better?

No, I haven't. It might be great.

I just know the Lehle stuff is solid AF. I don't think I've seen any type of pedal this robust. It will outlast me by a longshot.