Alex Lifeson goes digital

[JimAnsell2]

minimalizing with memes...ok, well its up to you to think about this shit....if you don't, it doesn't bother me. i'm just putting out a factor to be considered.

 

[stephen sawall]

It's interesting that it seems to be very regional. I backed a friend of a friend in Clarksdale MS last year and all of us had Twin Reverbs, LOL. The south moves a little more slowly I guess. There are also a lot of venues that don't really have much in the way of F.O.H so that probably is a factor too. A good number of clubs still won't complain if you crank up a bit so I would guess that's also behind some of it.

I use a half stack and a real ďrum set. So I go look at the venue to see if the place is ready for a real band. Some places here expect zero stage volume.
I have had to cancel shows. I am playing Saturday. All three bands using full rigs.
I decided to use a Triple Rectifier.

 

[rsm]

It's interesting that it seems to be very regional. I backed a friend of a friend in Clarksdale MS last year and all of us had Twin Reverbs, LOL. The south moves a little more slowly I guess. There are also a lot of venues that don't really have much in the way of F.O.H so that probably is a factor too. A good number of clubs still won't complain if you crank up a bit so I would guess that's also behind some of it.

I've seen a few Katanas used by bands here, but mostly tube combo amps in the smaller clubs, Fender, Blackstar, Vox, Marshall, Victory. Once a 5150 iconic combo.

 

[JimAnsell2]

yup...most people don't come with counter arguments, because its too hard on their own ego. i get it. we're all guitar players after all. we're all gods right?

 

[VonBonfire]

I think for most small to medium bar gigs, unless you're in a wedding type cover band covering a wide range of different bands / genres or silent stage digital makes sense IMO, taking a small tube amp rig and effects is easy enough if you're playing a single or similar set of genres.

A global tour and needing to cover decades of your own material, I can see using a digital rig. IIRC correctly Metallica paid or hired someone to program their Fractals, maybe some help from Fractal. I think if Alex called my company wanting to use my digital modeler product, I'd make sure to help, and make sure he's happy with the results.

I think if Alex, Steve Howe, Metallica, etc. thought it sounded like shit, they wouldn't use it.

I suppose it depends on the genre. Blues is old school so backline is provided and that usually means a Fender tube amp of some sort. Tbh I don't want to play guitar anymore if I have to use digital crap. That's not why I got into it to begin with. The toggle switches, the dials, the chrome, the beautiful faceplates, the thunder of a loud amp. To me anything digital is a tone suck and a kill joy.

 

[rsm]

I suppose it depends on the genre. Blues is old school so backline is provided and that usually means a Fender tube amp of some sort. Tbh I don't want to play guitar anymore if I have to use digital crap. That's not why I got into it to begin with. The toggle switches, the dials, the chrome, the beautiful faceplates, the thunder of a loud amp. To me anything digital is a tone suck and a kill joy.

I'd think the same for hard rock and metal too. My DSL40CR with a few effects, would cover most classic rock; I recall Mesa and Engl have high gain combos that would be fine for metal IMO. You need a set of core tones I'd say at least 3, probably no more than 8, for most genres, not dozens of them.


I enjoy my tube amps and digital gear, but just a hobby for me for many years now. I have tube amps that I like; I'd have more if there was room. I get other sounds from my digital gear.

Another reason why I prefer modeling over captures - I use the modeler for amps and effects I don't have. no need to capture tube amps I have, I just use the tube amps.

I've yet to see a digital modeler in the smaller bars that have live music. Mostly tube combos, and few digital amps.

 

[stephen sawall]

I often joke with my drummer about getting a digital set so we can play all venues.

I just bought a Marshall 6100. Alex used it as his main rig for years. Curly was the name of the amp.

Wonder if I can teach the band a sets worth of Rush tonight ? For Saturday. 28 minute version of Working Man and my half ass 2112.

 

[mentoneman]

this band was playing at a sports bar i wenf to last week. lead guy with prs was playing black magic woman through what i assumed was a digi something. didn’t matter. he seemed happy and people danced so mission accomplised.

but Alex should be trying stun people with his live sound.

 

[stephen sawall]

No one has done a good tube digital hybrid. If done right it could be useful. All tube signal path. Full digital control of everything.

I don't think there is a market for it.

 

[mentoneman]

No one has done a good tube digital hybrid. If done right it could be useful. All tube signal path. Full digital control of everything.

I don't think there is a market for it.

i had my tonex pedal sounding pretty legit running through my peacemaker half stack.
but neither the tonex nor the axefx II i have blow me away in stand alone use.

 

[RaceU4her]

what an asshole

 

[Greazygeo]

Saturday nites gig I used the Tonex one into the Wizard power section for some clean stuff. Using the Line6 HXeffects 4cm to control it. Set up a couple snapshots and patches to go between for cleans. Sounds pretty good. Even used a Rat model for leads in the funk stuff for the heck of it. Tonex is pretty good I think.

 

[tallcoolone]

I can't name a SINGLE classic rock/metal artist that started making better (or even equal) music after going all digital.

Not one.

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I can’t name a SINGLE classic rock/metal artist that started making better (or even equal) music after the year 2000

 

[tallcoolone]

I used the Tonex one into the Wizard power section

I’m not anti digital but this doesn’t sound right at all

 

[Greazygeo]

I’m not anti digital but this doesn’t sound right at all

Try to follow along, it’s not that hard.

 

[tallcoolone]

Try to follow along, it’s not that hard.

LOL GFY

 

[tallcoolone]

Try to follow along, it’s not that hard.

But I do appreciate you actually play the guitar, cool clips