Alnico is dead

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I've been messing around swapping back and fourth between an EMG 81 and 85 lately. 81 has a higher resonant peak so it gets more hi-fi sounding. It's also smoother overall, more refined. The 85's lower resonant peak feels like it's more in line with highlighting string detail and clank. It gets more down and dirty / growly. It's also just a bit thicker.

It's tough to pick a favorite.


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After a lot of testing, I'm going with the 85. If I was just plugging straight into an amp, I'd go for the tighter 81. It's easy to see why that pickup became so popular, especially against the 85 which can sound kinda muddy or dull straight into an amp. But if you're good with pre-EQ, I think the 85 gives you more to work with, and the tighter nature of the 81 with its higher resonant peak can be pretty easily EQ'd into the 85, but with the 85 you get more detail and string definition in the mids. Also with the 81, it's easy to go overboard on treble boosting, which can put you into abrasive upper treble territory and add some pretty obnoxious clicking into your pick attack. That description might make that character sound desirable, but it's really not. It sounds like something is broken in the amp. The 85 doesn't have a resonant peak as high as the 81 so it feels more forgiving and accommodating for treble boosting. The 85 is a better balanced pickup overall imo.

Never thought I'd go for an 85 over an 81 for a bridge humbucker, but there you go.
 
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Alnico can be warm and round to chunky and punchy, depending. Love them in Lps and strats. Ceramics are hot and sharp mostly. They can be great for high gain. Sound like garbage for low gain or blues, especially ceramic single coils. I like ceramics for metal, hot but not sterile like actives. Batteries belong in my wife's vibrators, not guitar pickups.
 
I have never heard a ceramic single coil that I've liked.
 
I prefer Alnico 2 in both lower wind & higher wind PAF style pickups for the style of music I play. I have Pariah Pasadenas in a couple of guitars as well as a Zhangbucker that is wound hot. Those are pushing it for the high output pickups for me. Anything hotter or ceramic doesn't sound right for me.
 
Depends on the amp and your tuning. This is all about the reasonant peak for a more focused sound. Btw, it won't break any forum rules to ask if anyone has a ceramic BKP Nailbomb or Wagner Ironman standard spaced to message me to buy them.
 
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When u stay home from work sick and start going through the stash...in a plastic jewel case a BNIB L500XL👊
 

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Ceramics are hot and sharp mostly. They can be great for high gain. Sound like garbage for low gain or blues, especially ceramic single coils.
I didn't mind the Super Distortion at the bridge in a blues setting. Not my favorite but it was more than usable. Pickup compression+amp volume/compression seemed to knock any ice pick tone off the top end. Really more versatile than I would have figured at first. Josh Optical does a nice review of them demonstrating a variety of sounds with them installed in a PRS using an Ampeg Reverborocket amp.
 
When u stay home from work sick and start going through the stash...in a plastic jewel case a BNIB L500XL👊
I think the Bill&Becky L500XL I have now sounds and feels way better than the BLUSA L500XL's I had...........Way better.:2thumbsup: I BLUSA was just harsh and ice picky to a point that it was unpleasant. It was ok for just Dime stuff but the B&B L500XL is still aggressive as hell but it's just way less harsh in the highs, think Nuno type tones. I'm even running the B&B L500XL with no tone pot with a straight 500K pot.
 
I am not a high gain guy, but the difference in that first video was not a data and night. Maybe I am missing something.
 
Wow, this is like stumbling on a 15 year old Ultimateguitar.com thread.
I saw the comment and liked, then I saw the pfp and wished I could double like. All hail the only true country-western troubadour.

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I tend to agree that ceramic is pretty much always better for modern high gain sounds, but there are some alnico 5 pickups like the ToneZone that are charming to me. It's all rig dependent of course, but sometimes I like having a little bit of give in the low end of the pickup, and alnico 5 offers that.
 
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