Am I reading this right? Mesa content

[BrentSSL]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mesa-Boogie-Dua ... 51d2ee6840

Like no reserve what crazy if this goes for under 1,000.00

 

[squank]

The shine has faded on Mesa, imo. There's just so many of them out there now, and lots of great competition.

 

[andross182]

Shine faded or not, the roadster is an amazing amp!

 

[Chris6870]

It will get bid up, you watch. I could have bought a Roadster for 1200 locally,but not really a Recto fan.

 

[borninwinter]

There are 2 days left in the auction. If you click on the sold listings for Roadsters - there are a fair number that have been sold and none have gone for less than $1k. The going rate seems to be $1200-1400. This is also the range the GC is listing used ones. That means there is virtually zero possibility that this one will go for less than $1k. eBay is simply to big a marketplace and Mesa is too well known. People will bid it up based on the opportunity to flip it alone. If it's not bid up to the going rate by Friday (which happens with Mesa), it will be in the last 30 seconds or so of the auction. I've sold a number of things that go up a few hundred in the last 30 seconds.

 

[thiswaythatway]

Meh, I bought a basically new one from GC for $950....sold it a few months later for about the same price. The only Mesa that really commands a high price on the used market is the IIC+.

 

[1meanplexi]

Meh, I bought a basically new one from GC for $950....sold it a few months later for about the same price. The only Mesa that really commands a high price on the used market is the IIC+.

This^^^^. Nothing more to say.

 

[Stumplegriltskin]

I have a MKv with the IIC mode. I think it sucks. Is there a difference between the mode on the MKV and the real IIC amp?

They need a Mk 6 with some modern metal tones.

 

[borninwinter]

Meh, I bought a basically new one from GC for $950....sold it a few months later for about the same price. The only Mesa that really commands a high price on the used market is the IIC+.

This^^^^. Nothing more to say.

Well, we'll see on Friday I guess.

You can always catch a stray deal on GC used stuff if you watch every day and move quick because sometimes they have people working that don't exactly know what they're doing. But, they don't have one listed for that price now. And there are about 20 sold listings on ebay for Roadsters where you can see the selling price right now. The only one that went for less than $1k was a combo for local pickup only. The rest are between 1200-1600. Anyone can find a deal if you put in enough effort, but that's the going rate.

Did notice that the listing in the original post says needs new tubes, so that might bring it down a little.

 

[longfxukxnhair]

Tubes will cost a small fortune. Possibly driving the price down

 

[BrentSSL]

I have a MKv with the IIC mode. I think it sucks. Is there a difference between the mode on the MKV and the real IIC amp?

They need a Mk 6 with some modern metal tones.

Thats why I sold mune if it had sounded like the EVH 5153 then I would have kept it

 

[shredi knight]

I have a MKv with the IIC mode. I think it sucks. Is there a difference between the mode on the MKV and the real IIC amp?

Yes, there is a difference. Please don't get Danyeo started.

 

[Racerxrated]

I have a MKv with the IIC mode. I think it sucks. Is there a difference between the mode on the MKV and the real IIC amp?

They need a Mk 6 with some modern metal tones.

Tons of internet chatter about this. Google is your friend.

 

[Chris6870]

I have a MKv with the IIC mode. I think it sucks. Is there a difference between the mode on the MKV and the real IIC amp?

They need a Mk 6 with some modern metal tones.

The difference is very small. You probably would not like the real deal either. The internet has turned the IIC+ into the greatest amp ever. I'ts not that great. There are many modern amps that sound better and are more versatile.
Judge for yourself -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbPgr63aaQ4

 

[Deleted member 8761]

I have a MKv with the IIC mode. I think it sucks. Is there a difference between the mode on the MKV and the real IIC amp?

They need a Mk 6 with some modern metal tones.

The difference is very small. You probably would not like the real deal either. The internet has turned the IIC+ into the greatest amp ever. I'ts not that great. There are many modern amps that sound better and are more versatile.
Judge for yourself -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbPgr63aaQ4

The difference is really noticeable. I think the Mark V is a great amp, but I like a real IIC+ just more. No youtube clip is going to show you the difference. Any of the Mark series can cover a lot of sounds. So if you say that modern amps sound better (which is totally a matter of taste) and are more versatile, then I wonder how much time you have spent with these amps.

 

[Chris6870]

I have a MKv with the IIC mode. I think it sucks. Is there a difference between the mode on the MKV and the real IIC amp?

They need a Mk 6 with some modern metal tones.

The difference is very small. You probably would not like the real deal either. The internet has turned the IIC+ into the greatest amp ever. I'ts not that great. There are many modern amps that sound better and are more versatile.
Judge for yourself -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbPgr63aaQ4

The difference is really noticeable. I think the Mark V is a great amp, but I like a real IIC+ just more. No youtube clip is going to show you the difference. Any of the Mark series can cover a lot of sounds. So if you say that modern amps sound better (which is totally a matter of taste) and are more versatile, then I wonder how much time you have spent with these amps.

They are versatile but I spent enough time with Marks to know that three independent channels (no shared eq) aint happening other than with the V. That's what I meant when I said there are more versatile modern amps.

 

[Stumplegriltskin]

I have a MKv with the IIC mode. I think it sucks. Is there a difference between the mode on the MKV and the real IIC amp?

They need a Mk 6 with some modern metal tones.

The difference is very small. You probably would not like the real deal either. The internet has turned the IIC+ into the greatest amp ever. I'ts not that great. There are many modern amps that sound better and are more versatile.
Judge for yourself -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbPgr63aaQ4

The difference is really noticeable. I think the Mark V is a great amp, but I like a real IIC+ just more. No youtube clip is going to show you the difference. Any of the Mark series can cover a lot of sounds. So if you say that modern amps sound better (which is totally a matter of taste) and are more versatile, then I wonder how much time you have spent with these amps.

My only experience with Mesa is a Recto recording preamp and a Mesa 2/90. The tone was alright, but nothing great.
That and the MKV I have now. My friend has one of those micro recto and to me it seems more like a rock amp than a metal amp. Needed a boost in front of it.

I'm a cellar dweller. I boost the gain and drop the mids on the EQ, though I don't use the preset EQ setting, I like a bit of mids, the preset is too scooped IMO.
That said, what I mean is that I don't play at band volumes where you need to add some mids and drop the gain. I've used mostly EMG's in the past and most of my guitars now has passives, so there seems to be a gain drop with passives and the MKV on MKIV mode with even the gain maxxed out.

I just have not been around much tube amps really. I have a 6505+ as well, but don't use it. Seems too scooped for me of a tone. I'd like to get my hand on some of the Engl stuff someday, but that's not gonna happen. I'm pretty happy with the MKV and if I need more sizzle, I use a Voodoo Sparkle Drive up front as just a boost. But I just fail to see the raving about the IIc+ mode.

 

[Deleted member 8761]

I have a MKv with the IIC mode. I think it sucks. Is there a difference between the mode on the MKV and the real IIC amp?

They need a Mk 6 with some modern metal tones.

The difference is very small. You probably would not like the real deal either. The internet has turned the IIC+ into the greatest amp ever. I'ts not that great. There are many modern amps that sound better and are more versatile.
Judge for yourself -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbPgr63aaQ4

The difference is really noticeable. I think the Mark V is a great amp, but I like a real IIC+ just more. No youtube clip is going to show you the difference. Any of the Mark series can cover a lot of sounds. So if you say that modern amps sound better (which is totally a matter of taste) and are more versatile, then I wonder how much time you have spent with these amps.

They are versatile but I spent enough time with Marks to know that three independent channels (no shared eq) aint happening other than with the V. That's what I meant when I said there are more versatile modern amps.

Ah, yeah. I even think the Mark V has too many options

 

[Deleted member 8761]

I have a MKv with the IIC mode. I think it sucks. Is there a difference between the mode on the MKV and the real IIC amp?

They need a Mk 6 with some modern metal tones.

The difference is very small. You probably would not like the real deal either. The internet has turned the IIC+ into the greatest amp ever. I'ts not that great. There are many modern amps that sound better and are more versatile.
Judge for yourself -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbPgr63aaQ4

The difference is really noticeable. I think the Mark V is a great amp, but I like a real IIC+ just more. No youtube clip is going to show you the difference. Any of the Mark series can cover a lot of sounds. So if you say that modern amps sound better (which is totally a matter of taste) and are more versatile, then I wonder how much time you have spent with these amps.

My only experience with Mesa is a Recto recording preamp and a Mesa 2/90. The tone was alright, but nothing great.
That and the MKV I have now. My friend has one of those micro recto and to me it seems more like a rock amp than a metal amp. Needed a boost in front of it.

I'm a cellar dweller. I boost the gain and drop the mids on the EQ, though I don't use the preset EQ setting, I like a bit of mids, the preset is too scooped IMO.
That said, what I mean is that I don't play at band volumes where you need to add some mids and drop the gain. I've used mostly EMG's in the past and most of my guitars now has passives, so there seems to be a gain drop with passives and the MKV on MKIV mode with even the gain maxxed out.

I just have not been around much tube amps really. I have a 6505+ as well, but don't use it. Seems too scooped for me of a tone. I'd like to get my hand on some of the Engl stuff someday, but that's not gonna happen. I'm pretty happy with the MKV and if I need more sizzle, I use a Voodoo Sparkle Drive up front as just a boost. But I just fail to see the raving about the IIc+ mode.

6505+ scooped tone? Not to my ears. Anyway, the Mark V is a great amp and I like it more than the Engl stuff. I haven't checked out their latest versions though. FWIW, there is no raving about the IIc+ mode on the Mark V. The original IIC+ is the hype. Whether a real IIc+ is worth the money, that's up to you. I own one and I enjoy it a lot.

 

[Shask]

I have a MKv with the IIC mode. I think it sucks. Is there a difference between the mode on the MKV and the real IIC amp?

They need a Mk 6 with some modern metal tones.

The difference is very small. You probably would not like the real deal either. The internet has turned the IIC+ into the greatest amp ever. I'ts not that great. There are many modern amps that sound better and are more versatile.
Judge for yourself -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbPgr63aaQ4

The difference is really noticeable. I think the Mark V is a great amp, but I like a real IIC+ just more. No youtube clip is going to show you the difference. Any of the Mark series can cover a lot of sounds. So if you say that modern amps sound better (which is totally a matter of taste) and are more versatile, then I wonder how much time you have spent with these amps.

To me the V doesn't sound quite as full in this video. It has less low/low mids or something. I dont know if that could be made closer by messing with the settings or not.

I haven't compared these in person, but I always assumed the V would feel more compressed also.