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i haven't formally introduced myself over here yet.

i build amps. i've been over at HCAF for a couple years (don't hold that against me), but my amp building just got serious very recently. i haven't made a big deal about it here for several reasons, none of which are relevant to this rant.

anyway, i've got an amp that is on a passaround. the guy that has it now posted a clip. so, people that have mentioned a passing interest are expressing it again.

this one guy wants gutshots, so i take a pic of the front, back, and whole interior of the amp i just finished for another customer. that's not good enough. he wants CLOSE UPS. now, i know that anybody who actually knows what they're looking at can see what needs to be seen with the pic posted. this guy basically questions the quality of my work, and wants a close up of the PCB to show that i do good work :lol: :LOL:

obviously, i'm hesitant to just snap close ups of my amp. he says that other builders would GLADLY take close up pics of their work. i tell him that's not been my experience. i then ask him what it would take, in terms of pics, to prove to him that i know how to solder. i also inform him that most people i know buy an amp for the tone, not what the guts look like.

he then proceeds to inform me that i can't expect people to buy my amps without detailed pics to show my work.

so, my question to you guys here at rig talk is, WTF is this guy smoking? does anybody else have that idea? am i off base for being reluctant to give him what he wants, meaning close ups of my boards?

mind you, i asked him what it would take specifically to prove to him that i do good work, and he wouldn't give an answer.

here are the pics i posted:
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here's the related clip:
http://www.netmusicians.org/?section=id&value=3079
 
I have kept my mouth shut but will say it now.................

You passing an amp around at kindergarden is going to turn into a cluster fuck, simple as that. I know that Dimebag is a cool kid and Giles is Giles but the mass over there imo dont even play much guitar, it is a forum for gamers and time wasters.

I do understand that you are trying to drum up some hype and I wish you the best, your amp looks very good from what I see and you have attracted a troll that has nothing better to do due to his life sucking hard. Such troll will attract others, and so forth. You can't go ballistic on him cause now you need to maintain a level head and have a positive rep or your name will be smeared elsewhere. You will have to do what James did and send out a sorry open letter to the kindergarden class due to some asshat posting a negative comment on HRI.

Sorry for the rant, you probably dont need it but I hope you do well with your new product.
 
Here's my advice: Leave HC and don't look back. Concentrate on message boards like Rig-Talk, TGP, ect.
 
i've attracted several trolls, but i don't think that guy is one of them. i think he's just a pretentious ass who thinks he knows good build quality when he sees it simply because he's looked inside amps for 30 years. hell, i've been looking at women all my life and i still don't understand what makes one quality just by looking at it :D

i know PR is a big deal, but you can ask anybody that's actually dealt with me...i'm a good guy. i've already toned down the kinds of things i say, and i work hard at trying to make sure that i say things in the right way as well.

but, it doesn't really matter...there's always gonna be haters.

take that whole mark cameron fiasco that went down a while back. quite a few people had quite a lot of bad shit to say about him. but the guys that had done business with him before were not phased. i'm totally expecting that to happen with me. i think it happens to everybody.

you'll notice that i didn't really include any of the kindergarteners in my passaround. that was done for a reason :thumbsup:

all that aside, this guy's off his meds right?
 
I have been coming to guitar message boards for years. I have seen this type of thing happen over, and over, and over. It doesn't matter who is right (you are) because in the long run, the only person that will suffer from flame wars is you. And they will keep going, and going and going, just to get the attention and to get you more fired up. There will always be haters, especially on HC.

The best thing to do is ignore them, don't spread it around and give them ammo (this very post could be ammo) and focus strictly on the product and your satisfied customers and ignore the rest. You don't owe anyone anything!
 
Ignore 100% is the correct advice....................don't even respond.
 
i think i did a good job of subduing the whole thing, and i don't think this guy was interested in a flame war.

i asked him what it would take to satisfy him...twice.

but, you're right in the end. i can't possibly benefit from exchanges like that. i just have to figure out how to deal with things like that in the future. i wanted to squash the idea that he posted without squashing him in the process and coming out being right and looking like an ass. i think i did that with just a little history lesson.

and i also just wanted to be sure that what he was saying wasn't a common practice that i was unaware of. i mean, i've never heard anybody else make that kind of request. it seemed a bit fishy to me.
 
Looks like a very well built amp,Clean wiring nice sized transformers and kt somethings.When you deal with the public it can often be very trying.Take it from me a daddy daycare provider stay cool headed and things nine times out ten will work out. :thumbsup:
 
If you feel confident in your product, stick to your guns. Hopefully you have something to set you apart from all the other amp companies.
 
that confidence thing is tricky.

i know *I* like it, but i don't know if that means a lot of other people will too. so far, three guys that have played a lot of high gain amps have played it, and all three have liked it. one already placed an order, one is tentative but is probably going to buy, and the other one has inquired about lead time, etc.

that kind of response is where i'm getting the confidence that i have an amp with a broad appeal.
 
Do you have a website ? What type of high gain amp do you build ? Modern/huge, tight/foccussed, etc ?
 
titanamps":1hydqj23 said:
that confidence thing is tricky.

i know *I* like it, but i don't know if that means a lot of other people will too. so far, three guys that have played a lot of high gain amps have played it, and all three have liked it. one already placed an order, one is tentative but is probably going to buy, and the other one has inquired about lead time, etc.

that kind of response is where i'm getting the confidence that i have an amp with a broad appeal.
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Just remember that you won't please everyone. I'd imagine you had a goal in mind when creating it. Is it everything you wanted it to be? If it is, and you feel good about standing behind it, go with it.
 
While I agree with you on the troll, I will only point out that your first two pics are a bit fuzzy, and the third is from far enough away as to make it hard to discern all the individual details to my old eyes.

now, tell us more about this amp, power tubes, voicing what all the knobs and switches do and so on.
Sorry if you posted all this over at HC, I haven't been in there for more than a few seconds here and there since this place opened up.
 
Greazygeo":1vviiw09 said:
Just remember that you won't please everyone. I'd imagine you had a goal in mind when creating it. Is it everything you wanted it to be? If it is, and you feel good about standing behind it, go with it.
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That is probably the best advice that you're going to get on a forum. Best of luck with your endeavor.
 
yeah, i know i won't please everyone. i was never under any delusions to the contrary. :D

the amp is a modern high gain variety. i've got two versions-2xKT88 100W and 4xKT88 200W. both of them are LOUD, but the 200W version is stupid loud. the one that's on tour is a 200W model, and people are actually complaining about how loud it is :lol: :LOL:

two channels, clean/crunch and OD just like a 5150 or SLO.

it's tight, articulate, dynamic, and has a good punch. the gain structure is grainy, and it's voiced a bit darker, but not in a bad way.

i have a myspace page, but there's not much on it other than a clip and a logo. it's https://www.myspace.com/titanamps

i'm going to put up a proper website soon, but i wanted to throw up a myspace page just so i'd have something on the web.

the guy that has it now says that it's exactly what the DSL2000 should have been, although i'm not sure how much i agree with that...

it's got a good clean channel, too.


prices start at $1250 for those interested.
 
oh, about the passaround...

i'm kind of averse to adding any more stops to the passaround. it's MY amp that's out there, like...the one i use in my band. while it's gone, i have to use the other guitarists spare 6505.

i HATE 6505s.

as it is, my amp's going to be gone for about 6 months. i'll probably end up modding the 6505 until i get it to sound right :yes:

tony (mctallica) is on the list, though. he'll probably have some comments to make when he gets it.


if i have a change of heart, i'll let you guys know.
 
After I saw your price I have been very tempted to pick one up. I also saw some of the options on HC like the contour option. I just have a lot of stuff to sell, and I am going to wait for more sound clips.

Any thought of adding a power scaling control?? A lot of companies use the design from London power. He has a basic one that gives you up to 40 db decrease in power output. Which lets you dial in the amount of headroom that you want, and allows you to use a big 100 watt amp as a small 1 watt practice amp. Suhr, Egnater, Fargen, and Reeves are some of the bigger names that use Kevin's circuit.
 
titanamps":1z7z6vf5 said:
oh, about the passaround...

i'm kind of averse to adding any more stops to the passaround. it's MY amp that's out there, like...the one i use in my band. while it's gone, i have to use the other guitarists spare 6505.

i HATE 6505s.

as it is, my amp's going to be gone for about 6 months. i'll probably end up modding the 6505 until i get it to sound right :yes:

tony (mctallica) is on the list, though. he'll probably have some comments to make when he gets it.


if i have a change of heart, i'll let you guys know.
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So the amp was suited better to be viewed at the Kindergarden site than this one full of builders and professional musicians?
 
Greazygeo":qhk5tgt2 said:
titanamps":qhk5tgt2 said:
that confidence thing is tricky.

i know *I* like it, but i don't know if that means a lot of other people will too. so far, three guys that have played a lot of high gain amps have played it, and all three have liked it. one already placed an order, one is tentative but is probably going to buy, and the other one has inquired about lead time, etc.

that kind of response is where i'm getting the confidence that i have an amp with a broad appeal.
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Just remember that you won't please everyone. I'd imagine you had a goal in mind when creating it. Is it everything you wanted it to be? If it is, and you feel good about standing behind it, go with it.
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This is good advice. Your pics show enough detail imho. If I'm looking at an amp, I am much more concerned with tone and features than with what the "guts" look like. The pics you posted are more than most, if not all amp company's would do.
 
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