glassjaw7
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Bogner Red into a good clean channel is very good. SLO pedal, Friedman Smallbox, King Of Tone set to distortion mode are a few of my favorites.
7704A
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Anything to avoid practicing. No way that'll help.
glpg80
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I ran an MT-2 into a 65 fender twin reverb once after a quick recap for a friend that inherited it before he sold it and it sounded amazing.
Greazygeo
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Interesting, never know what can work till you try it. Had quite a few Twins over the years, all silverface. Never keep them very long, so heavy! This Princeton somehow keeps up with the drummer and has a pretty fat tone. Could be 6v6’s, sounds surprisingly good. We have a 65 Deluxe Reverb I need to try sometime, like the size of the Princeton though.
Dale B
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Not really. If I moved toward that type of setup this is what I would use:
A 50 and 100 watt Hiwatt type amp (Hiwatt, Reeves, Hi-Tone).
Way Huge Conspiracy Theory - edge of breakup type stuff
Maxon OD808 or another TS type pedal
Friedman BE pedal for Marshall dirties
EVH 5150 pedal for high gain
And one of the Heavy pedals by Empress for extreme stuff.
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CoreyW
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There is no one simple solution to answer the question in analog gear.
Different amps take different pedals differently.
That pedal show, has quiet a few older videos on pairing drives with different amp types that are well worth exploring.
The major problem with great amps, you really need to be able to open them up to really get the great sounds out of them, which creates its own problems for home recording.
I have a couple of good amps and a great pedal collection, and some of the best available load boxes, but I bought an Axe FX3 earlier this year and have been absolutely floored with it, and haven’t felt the need to play through anything else since I bought it. The convince, ease of use, amazing tones, and repeatability of it has turned me into a bit of a fan boy.
Different amps take different pedals differently.
That pedal show, has quiet a few older videos on pairing drives with different amp types that are well worth exploring.
The major problem with great amps, you really need to be able to open them up to really get the great sounds out of them, which creates its own problems for home recording.
I have a couple of good amps and a great pedal collection, and some of the best available load boxes, but I bought an Axe FX3 earlier this year and have been absolutely floored with it, and haven’t felt the need to play through anything else since I bought it. The convince, ease of use, amazing tones, and repeatability of it has turned me into a bit of a fan boy.
7704A
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Their most recent one dealt with this, and was fantastic. Schwang was had, ears were hurt.
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CoreyW
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Schwang was had!
Hiwatts-n-Gibsons
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I agree on the Hiwatt, and for the money if you aren't attached to the name plate the Reeves and Hi-Tone both deliver that tone. At one point I had the Hiwatt, Reeves, and Hi-Tone Custom 100's, and the chance to crank them all through the same cabs.
I can also tell you that a Fulltone Tube Tape Echo > Dr. Z Z-Verb Unit > Hiwatt Custom 100 will have you reevaluating your benchmark clean tones quickly. I put it above any Fender or Ampeg I ever heard.
Smash
Hack
The major problem I see with a forum that worships tube amps is the reluctance to open the damn things up. It is baffling
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CoreyW
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I understand it, the position I was in, I got out of the Marines, bought a house with a banging ass basement while I was single.. met a chick who put up with my bullshit and got myself hitched... well she wasnt as much of a fan of my Mesa's and Marshall's as I was and with kids in the house I had to respect bed time.
I moved into digital load boxes, play my amps set where I want them at any time of the day/night... fuck yeah sign me up, but that first couple of months was so weird getting use to not having a cabinet hitting me. But my shit sounded good all the time, not just when I could open them up. Tracking anything on the guitar was soooooo much easier just running direct to the interface, and at my skill level it sounded better than what I could achieve mic'ing a cabinet.
Even with really good amps and great pedals, I didnt want to haul that shit around all the time, I tried the Pod HD500 and couldnt get it to work, tried the Helix and while it was a significant improvement, I couldnt get it to sound like the guys who were really good on it, but I could get useable tones from it. But, I prefered my analog stuff over my line 6 stuff, even had the Pod Go... then I finally bit the bullet and snagged my Axe and I honestly cant recommend it enough.
mentoneman
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i kinda visited fairly deep into the friedman universe-
be-od and deluxe pedals, irj, be-100, smallbox, plex, steve stevens 1and 2, twin sister, and jose
currently have the be-dlx modue which imo is more dynamic than the pedals or irj, and close enough to the heads that although not quite the same, i’m very satisfied.
be-od and deluxe pedals, irj, be-100, smallbox, plex, steve stevens 1and 2, twin sister, and jose
currently have the be-dlx modue which imo is more dynamic than the pedals or irj, and close enough to the heads that although not quite the same, i’m very satisfied.
Smash
Hack
I have flirted with a fm3. But the problem is how long it will take me to figure out. I still think of one for certain scenarios. As far as replacing my tube amp..would be hard. I believe you have to find right fr cab to make it sound great. It would be a great addition, though.
Believe me, i play silent a lot too. I have neural dsp on the computer and it is a lifesaver.
My point is when i play a tube amp, I want to fucking PLAY it. No low volume bs
DrewJD82
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For certain tones, yep. For modern high gain I prefer amp distortion, but for 70’s-90’s levels of dirt, say Floyd through AIC, I’m really starting to prefer pedals/volume knob/single channel amp.
I posted this before but it’s stacking dirt pedals on the Plexi50. At this point I have entirely different pedals doing the same thing, just different flavors of dirt.
If I were in a hard rock band this would definitely be my setup, but I’m itching to get my hands on a JCM800 because I have a hunch I can pretty much nail the modern metal tones I want doing the same kind of thing with that amp instead of a Plexi circuit.
I’ll post a song later tonight that I recorded this weekend, it’s entirely the Plexi50 w/ dirt pedals in front, but I have the Hot Mod engaged on the amp so it’s much more in the Cantrell ballpark than anything. I’ve found when blending distorted guitars with acoustics, dialing in the right amount of dirt is far easier with pedals than trying to make an amp get it.
I posted this before but it’s stacking dirt pedals on the Plexi50. At this point I have entirely different pedals doing the same thing, just different flavors of dirt.
If I were in a hard rock band this would definitely be my setup, but I’m itching to get my hands on a JCM800 because I have a hunch I can pretty much nail the modern metal tones I want doing the same kind of thing with that amp instead of a Plexi circuit.
I’ll post a song later tonight that I recorded this weekend, it’s entirely the Plexi50 w/ dirt pedals in front, but I have the Hot Mod engaged on the amp so it’s much more in the Cantrell ballpark than anything. I’ve found when blending distorted guitars with acoustics, dialing in the right amount of dirt is far easier with pedals than trying to make an amp get it.
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