Amps that you just didn't like......and why

[glassjaw7]

Holy shit. You serious, that many? I know this will hit you like a ton of bricks, it always does to some of my students but maybe you should practice more. Spend more time with creating "your" tone with your hands and heart as opposed to gear. It'll take a few years but once you accomplish it..a $400 amp will give you all the tone you need. Not only will that make you a better musician but holy fuck..just think about the financial gain and what you could save. No one ever wants to hear that but it is what it is.

I played a Diezel Herb for 2 weeks and yes, it sounded great but I thought $4000 was an incredible waste for what the Herb offered and the VH-4 with the 50 mil channels. I didn't get that either. I went with an Einstein 100 and it's one of the best amps I've owned to date. 2 channels ALL anyone needs and it has the best tones of both the bigger brothers. Diezels are probably the best built amps today but they need to come out with a marshall type amp.

The SLO is a one time amp..once you own one you only own it one time. It'll do everything you need it to and if you buy one and you're not happy with it then you better take a shot of whix-sy..sit in front of a mirror and deal with your issues because nothing will make you happy and your thread is testament to this. Maybe you're hooked on buying and trying instead of just playing? If you're really tired of it..take my advice and THANK me 10-12 yrs down the road. Chase "your" sound with your hands and your heart. Easier said than done though as this takes ALOT of dedication and something 98% of the planet lacks..discipline. Good luck.

I'm sorry you feel this way. And I completely forgot that I don't know how to play and I need an AMAZING teacher like you to show me the way
Can you please let me know when you are available to give me lessons?
I knew there was something missing in my 25+ years of playing, and it is YOU
Please post me a link to how we can get together so you can show me the divine way of your ultimate skills so that you can bestow them upon me.
I need to get away from this mirror and bottle of Jack Daniels.
I need to reach your level of mastery on the instrument so that I can truly be happy with myself.
I knew by coming to Rig-Talk I would find my way to becoming the best I can be, and I thank you for reaching out to me so I can accomplish this.
Thank You Thank You Thank You
I NEED YOU.
Please let me know, so we can get the ball rolling.

 

[ZMAN]

Speakers are a very critical part of an amps sound, and they complete the package and are the final and one of the most important elements to a great or bad sounding amp setup.
I always try every head through at least 10 different cabinets/speakers before giving up
For example, when I first got a JVM, I wasn't blown away. Then I had a little cabinet audition for the head.
Gainfreak was kind enough to bring down 3 of his 4x12 cabinets to my studio.
We played it through all different speakers.
GB loaded 4x12
V30 loaded 4x14
75 loaded 4x12
G12H30 loaded 4x12
Fryette FB 4x12
Fryette D 4x12
MC90 loaded 4x12
EVM loaded 4x12
CL80 loaded 2x12
MC90 loaded Buzzbomb
And some others.
The amp simply came ALIVE when plugged into G12H 30's, and the rest were history for that head.
Then of course I modded the JVM with a CHoke, a few caps (c/o Santiago), new tubes, and biased it properly.
It is now a force to reckoned with.

Whats a V30 loaded 4x14 ?

Miss ya my brother !!!

Z

 

[diagrammatiks]

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT.

seems like people don't really understand something.....
with todays new fangled internet it takes about 5 minutes to get something. and then another hour to set it up.

how the fuck long am I suppose to spend practicing anyway? every single hour of mah life? I think I can take 5 or 10 minutes off each week to spend 4k don't you think?

 

[Ancient Alien]

Speakers are a very critical part of an amps sound, and they complete the package and are the final and one of the most important elements to a great or bad sounding amp setup.
I always try every head through at least 10 different cabinets/speakers before giving up
For example, when I first got a JVM, I wasn't blown away. Then I had a little cabinet audition for the head.
Gainfreak was kind enough to bring down 3 of his 4x12 cabinets to my studio.
We played it through all different speakers.
GB loaded 4x12
V30 loaded 4x14
75 loaded 4x12
G12H30 loaded 4x12
Fryette FB 4x12
Fryette D 4x12
MC90 loaded 4x12
EVM loaded 4x12
CL80 loaded 2x12
MC90 loaded Buzzbomb
And some others.
The amp simply came ALIVE when plugged into G12H 30's, and the rest were history for that head.
Then of course I modded the JVM with a CHoke, a few caps (c/o Santiago), new tubes, and biased it properly.
It is now a force to reckoned with.

Whats a V30 loaded 4x14 ?

Miss ya my brother !!!

Z

Ooooops....LOL
Miss you too bro...
Get back up here for some more of my pathetic playing.
Maybe once I get lessons from friedchickendick, I'll be able to warrant the ownership of all my gear...

 

[TheMagicEight]

Maybe once I get lessons from friedchickendick, I'll be able to warrant the ownership of all my gear...

You asshole!

 

[The Hoff]

I think every amp will be hated by someone on this thread sooner or later. With that said:

I hate every amp ever. Why? Because it helps justify my never ending flipping of amps.

 

[ZMAN]

Speakers are a very critical part of an amps sound, and they complete the package and are the final and one of the most important elements to a great or bad sounding amp setup.
I always try every head through at least 10 different cabinets/speakers before giving up
For example, when I first got a JVM, I wasn't blown away. Then I had a little cabinet audition for the head.
Gainfreak was kind enough to bring down 3 of his 4x12 cabinets to my studio.
We played it through all different speakers.
GB loaded 4x12
V30 loaded 4x14
75 loaded 4x12
G12H30 loaded 4x12
Fryette FB 4x12
Fryette D 4x12
MC90 loaded 4x12
EVM loaded 4x12
CL80 loaded 2x12
MC90 loaded Buzzbomb
And some others.
The amp simply came ALIVE when plugged into G12H 30's, and the rest were history for that head.
Then of course I modded the JVM with a CHoke, a few caps (c/o Santiago), new tubes, and biased it properly.
It is now a force to reckoned with.

Whats a V30 loaded 4x14 ?

Miss ya my brother !!!

Z

Ooooops....LOL
Miss you too bro...
Get back up here for some more of my pathetic playing.
Maybe once I get lessons from friedchickendick, I'll be able to warrant the ownership of all my gear...

When I come back up we can both Pathetically play togther !!!

Z

 

[mctallica1]

Holy shit. You serious, that many? I know this will hit you like a ton of bricks, it always does to some of my students but maybe you should practice more. Spend more time with creating "your" tone with your hands and heart as opposed to gear. It'll take a few years but once you accomplish it..a $400 amp will give you all the tone you need. Not only will that make you a better musician but holy fuck..just think about the financial gain and what you could save. No one ever wants to hear that but it is what it is.

I played a Diezel Herb for 2 weeks and yes, it sounded great but I thought $4000 was an incredible waste for what the Herb offered and the VH-4 with the 50 mil channels. I didn't get that either. I went with an Einstein 100 and it's one of the best amps I've owned to date. 2 channels ALL anyone needs and it has the best tones of both the bigger brothers. Diezels are probably the best built amps today but they need to come out with a marshall type amp.

The SLO is a one time amp..once you own one you only own it one time. It'll do everything you need it to and if you buy one and you're not happy with it then you better take a shot of whix-sy..sit in front of a mirror and deal with your issues because nothing will make you happy and your thread is testament to this. Maybe you're hooked on buying and trying instead of just playing? If you're really tired of it..take my advice and THANK me 10-12 yrs down the road. Chase "your" sound with your hands and your heart. Easier said than done though as this takes ALOT of dedication and something 98% of the planet lacks..discipline. Good luck.

I'm sorry you feel this way. And I completely forgot that I don't know how to play and I need an AMAZING teacher like you to show me the way
Can you please let me know when you are available to give me lessons?
I knew there was something missing in my 25+ years of playing, and it is YOU
Please post me a link to how we can get together so you can show me the divine way of your ultimate skills so that you can bestow them upon me.
I need to get away from this mirror and bottle of Jack Daniels.
I need to reach your level of mastery on the instrument so that I can truly be happy with myself.
I knew by coming to Rig-Talk I would find my way to becoming the best I can be, and I thank you for reaching out to me so I can accomplish this.
Thank You Thank You Thank You
I NEED YOU.
Please let me know, so we can get the ball rolling.

Now THAT is funny!

 

[zakk99]

Wow ... what a subjective thread .... and way too many variables to give an opinion ... different set of fingers ... different tone ... different room ... different tone ... different style of music ... different tone ... I have had the good fortune that my best friend for the past 30 years is one the best front of house guys in this region ... one thing I never see discussed much on this site ... is live applications .. I have learned over the years that the situation rules!!! Again, I have a set of ears out front that I really trust and that helps a lot. There have been nights that I tell him, there is no way this sounds good ... but the tape said otherwise .... just saying ... I would never sell an amp short ... especial a good quality amp, because it didn't meet my controlled room expectations ... the stage tells the story ... now ... with this said ... it is a very hard thing to get into a zone, if your not comfortable with your tone ... and I understand that. ... I'm only saying that I'm seeing a lot of really good amps being trashed here, and I can't help but to wonder where the data was gathered. ...

 

[Ancient Alien]

Wow ... what a subjective thread .... and way too many variables to give an opinion ... different set of fingers ... different tone ... different room ... different tone ... different style of music ... different tone ... I have had the good fortune that my best friend for the past 30 years is one the best front of house guys in this region ... one thing I never see discussed much on this site ... is live applications .. I have learned over the years that the situation rules!!! Again, I have a set of ears out front that I really trust and that helps a lot. There have been nights that I tell him, there is no way this sounds good ... but the tape said otherwise .... just saying ... I would never sell an amp short ... especial a good quality amp, because it didn't meet my controlled room expectations ... the stage tells the story ... now ... with this said ... it is a very hard thing to get into a zone, if your not comfortable with your tone ... and I understand that. ... I'm only saying that I'm seeing a lot of really good amps being trashed here, and I can't help but to wonder where the data was gathered. ...

I agree 100% with your statements. This is purely subjective on every level.
The thread was started simply because I myself like many many others here have been through tons and tons of amps and gear over the years.
There is always going to be some mentally inept people that will get insulted or try to defend a specific amp, guitar, or any other piece of gear when a person voices their opionion.
But that is exactly what this thread was intended for.
Peoples own and exclusive opinions as to what they didn't like about a specific amp(s).
There is no bashing going on here other than by a specific internet know it all who obviously feels that he is superior to others as he is tucked away safely behind his computer in his moms basement.
As far as where the data was gathered, that is very obvious. It's from owning and playing different amps.
This is not a thread to bash any amp by any stretch of the imagination. It is simply a place to state what amp and why the individual didn't like it.
I have many friends that are happy as a pig in shit to plug into any amp. And that is what makes all the opinions posted here legit and just as important as anyone else's.
I am very unbiased when it comes to amps, but I do know what I like to hear and feel coming out of an amp. That's it.

 

[zakk99]

sir ... your reply is completely valid .... was just saying ..

 

[LP Freak]

Speakers are a very critical part of an amps sound, and they complete the package and are the final and one of the most important elements to a great or bad sounding amp setup.
I always try every head through at least 10 different cabinets/speakers before giving up
For example, when I first got a JVM, I wasn't blown away. Then I had a little cabinet audition for the head.
Gainfreak was kind enough to bring down 3 of his 4x12 cabinets to my studio.
We played it through all different speakers.
GB loaded 4x12
V30 loaded 4x12
75 loaded 4x12
G12H30 loaded 4x12
Fryette FB 4x12
Fryette D 4x12
MC90 loaded 4x12
EVM loaded 4x12
CL80 loaded 2x12
MC90 loaded Buzzbomb
And some others.
The amp simply came ALIVE when plugged into G12H 30's, and the rest were history for that head.
Then of course I modded the JVM with a CHoke, a few caps (c/o Santiago), new tubes, and biased it properly.
It is now a force to reckoned with.

I agree 100%. I have 10 4x12's! Not because I am trying to be cool or want to start a collection...I have them because I have different speakers in them Believe it or not, people don't realize that am amp will sound different when using different speakers. I wish I could find one speaker that did it all...heck I wish I could find one amp that could do it all

And don't forget about the grill cloth.