And Another 5-Stage "Bay Area Thrash" Langner Mod

[FourT6and2]

Outstanding. What speakers were in the Bogner cab for the clips?

Thanks! G12H-75 Creamback, 8ohm.

EDIT:
Also vintage G12M-25 Greenbacks (cream plastic) in the Marshall cab.

 

[JCDenton6]

That sounds fantastic!

 

[Racerxrated]

What other cabs/speakers have you tried?

My go-to is a Bogner 4x12 with G12H-75 Creambacks. I think Ted's G12M-25s have more snarl, but a slightly thinner mid range.

Over the years, I've had mostly vintage Celestions as my go-to speakers. G 12 65s, the T3120 versions(16 ohm Marshall labels) were my No#1 for years. Recently, I found a 1988 800 cab with the original V30, the 8 ohm Marshall Vintage. They are like a better 65 to my ears. Very different than any other V30, including the later Marshall Vintage. They are my new fav. Other great speakers with Marshalls are: 1974-5 Creamback M25s(same as Teds), G 12 80s from 78-83, the first version T75 with vents from 83-85, Original Pulsonic M25s, and super rare H25s from 66-67(I have a pair). Next tier for me are the 6402 GBs from the 90s....great GBs that only pale a bit to the vintage pre 1978 versions. Second version T75s from 86-89 are very good; less scooped than the 900 era 75s to today. Had some cool modern V30 cabs that are great with Mesas, Jubilees....Mesa Traditional and Standards, Rivera V30 cab(GREAT cab that can be had for less than a Mesa, Diezel, Bogner V30 cabs but sounds as good), and a Bogner slant. Those IMO don't mesh well with Marshalls other than a Jubilee...too many 'mids on mids' for my ears.

 

[braintheory]

What other cabs/speakers have you tried?

My go-to is a Bogner 4x12 with G12H-75 Creambacks. I think Ted's G12M-25s have more snarl, but a slightly thinner mid range.

For me the top tier speakers in terms of tone quality are ‘60’s 20w Greenbacks (most snarl, uppermid grind in a speaker, was amazing with the Langner 2204 I had), Altec 417B’s, my 2 favorite speakers. Then Altec 417C’s, JBL D120F’s, E120’s, K120’s, Fane Crescendos and ‘50’s Roger Charles/Cletrons. These all have much more extended, sharp, crisp highs than any Celestion and also much bigger, stronger lows than any Celestion, but also a comparatively hollow midrange. ‘60’s Celestion Alnico Blues and Silvers also have some of the best tone quality you’ll hear, but wouldn’t choose it as much for more aggressive styles

2nd tier for me would be vintage G12-65 T3120’s. ‘80’s vented T75’s, ‘70’s M25 Creambacks, and G12-80’s are pretty good too, but the top tier ones are much more inspiring and exciting for my ears. For non-vintage speakers I like the Heritage reissue 20w Greenbacks and Redbacks