
nightlight
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I've been really wrestling with the idea that I should invest in more cabs instead of more amps.
First off, I don't belong to the school that says, "Two amps will sound the same through the same cab." I just don't find that's how it works, e.g. my Savage 120 will not sound like my JVM410H through the same cab. In that case, the Savage is far more compressed, and the Marshall has a more raw sound. Maybe that's the way I hear it.
I have seen the Youtube comparisons where they say, "They sound the same," but again, this is just my experience and I don't think they do. Maybe because I would seldom mic up a sound from two different amps at the same spot on a cab. I just don't think that is a real world situation.
Does it suffice for the purpose of the test? I'm not sure as well, it just seems to me that you are capturing a spot on the cab that accentuates certain frequencies. Those frequencies, however, may not be what you are aiming for, at least imho.
I like to think of a speaker and cab as having almost infinite ways for micing. So many positions, so many angles, so many mic possibilities. Because these amps have different tones, you would therefore mic up the cab at a different position when using that amp. That's just my thinking and the debate is for another thread.
That isn't to say though that an amp through a different cab won't sound different. I have three cabs, at the moment, with one more inbound. It has definitely been my experience that an amp through a different cab (even with the same speakers, but more markedly with other speakers) can sound completely different.
It's also more often than not cheaper to buy a cab than an amp, since nowadays no one seems to be able to stand the things, which means you come across bargains from time to time.
The amps I have are a VHT Sig:X, a Marshall JVM410H, an Engl Savage 120 and Fireball 100 (planning to sell the Fireball) and a PRS Archon 25.
The cabs I have are an Emperor 4x12 with Governors and Tonkers, an Orange 2x12 with UK V30s and a Mesa Boogie Thiele 1x12 with an EVM12L. The cab that is inbound is a Friedman 2x12 with V30s (Chinese ones, I think).
I'm currently evaluating a few amps and a few cabs (because GAS has gotten the better over common sense) like a Mark V, a Deliverance and an Axe FX (not an amp, but I like digital gear).
I'm also evaluating a few cabs - a Recto 2x12 and 4x12, a Port City OS 2x12 and a 4x12 with Greenbacks.
What do you think would equate maximum bang for buck, assuming you could only get one thing from those choices?
First off, I don't belong to the school that says, "Two amps will sound the same through the same cab." I just don't find that's how it works, e.g. my Savage 120 will not sound like my JVM410H through the same cab. In that case, the Savage is far more compressed, and the Marshall has a more raw sound. Maybe that's the way I hear it.
I have seen the Youtube comparisons where they say, "They sound the same," but again, this is just my experience and I don't think they do. Maybe because I would seldom mic up a sound from two different amps at the same spot on a cab. I just don't think that is a real world situation.
Does it suffice for the purpose of the test? I'm not sure as well, it just seems to me that you are capturing a spot on the cab that accentuates certain frequencies. Those frequencies, however, may not be what you are aiming for, at least imho.
I like to think of a speaker and cab as having almost infinite ways for micing. So many positions, so many angles, so many mic possibilities. Because these amps have different tones, you would therefore mic up the cab at a different position when using that amp. That's just my thinking and the debate is for another thread.
That isn't to say though that an amp through a different cab won't sound different. I have three cabs, at the moment, with one more inbound. It has definitely been my experience that an amp through a different cab (even with the same speakers, but more markedly with other speakers) can sound completely different.
It's also more often than not cheaper to buy a cab than an amp, since nowadays no one seems to be able to stand the things, which means you come across bargains from time to time.
The amps I have are a VHT Sig:X, a Marshall JVM410H, an Engl Savage 120 and Fireball 100 (planning to sell the Fireball) and a PRS Archon 25.
The cabs I have are an Emperor 4x12 with Governors and Tonkers, an Orange 2x12 with UK V30s and a Mesa Boogie Thiele 1x12 with an EVM12L. The cab that is inbound is a Friedman 2x12 with V30s (Chinese ones, I think).
I'm currently evaluating a few amps and a few cabs (because GAS has gotten the better over common sense) like a Mark V, a Deliverance and an Axe FX (not an amp, but I like digital gear).
I'm also evaluating a few cabs - a Recto 2x12 and 4x12, a Port City OS 2x12 and a 4x12 with Greenbacks.
What do you think would equate maximum bang for buck, assuming you could only get one thing from those choices?