Another dilemma by Mike - The end (for now)

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So I finally have 2 great amps, a CCV and a 1975 Marshall Dave Friedman modded. Both are killer amps at any volume. Now, mysteriously, :D a BE-100 arrives at my door today, brand new. Unfortunately I have to pay for it.
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I sold my Friedman modded Marshall today, I am back to 2 amps, the CCV and the Brown Eye. Its hard to believe that I bought my first good amp, a Quick Rod back in 2006. Many amps later, I truly am done. The seeking is over. Sure I still want to collect amps but as far as finding 2 amps that will inspire me to be my best, I have them. When I first started reading about Cameron's they had all this mystique and when a Cameron modded Marshall would pop up for sale, it was common to see $3000 or more exchange hands for one amp! If I had money now, I'd buy up as many as I could, the prices will go back up. So 6 months ago I scored a King/Friedman/Cameron CCV. This amp is incredible, it cuts through a mix at any volume, sings like a Marshall and growls the way only a Cameron can. Plus 2 channels and a solo boost, a real versatile amp. You have permission to rip me to shreds if I sell this amp for any other reason than dire economic issues. :lol: :LOL: :lol: :LOL:

My first modded Marshall was a Lee Jackson modded 50 non master Marshall. It needed a total rebuild, I never got it sounding good and ended up returning it to stock. I owned every type of Lee Jackson amp since then and I had a couple that sounded killer. They were hit and miss. 3 years ago I bought my first Friedman Marshall, a 1975 00 watt superlead from LP Freak. To this day, it is the best sounding modded Marshall I have ever played. I had Dave F. mod a jcm 800 for me and it was good but not quite like the 1975. Last week I scored an incredible deal on a BE-100. I bought it thinking that even if I did not like it I could sell it for a minimal loss. I was willing to take the chance because I knew I would not have the opportunity at home for long (my wife of 27 years was ok with it so I hurriedly bought it before she woke up :D ).

At first it did not seem much different than the CCV and almost the same as the Friedman modded Marshall. It took a few days of tweaking, playing through different cabs to dial in the BE - 100. Right now the BE channel (no switches) is what I will use at church, HBE when playing Maiden. The amp just has something I can't quite place my finger on yet but the amp is the pinnacle of the modded Marshall genre of amps. You need to play one for a while to get into it but those Phil X videos are pretty close to what you could expect if you never heard one in person. I did not like the amp through the 1960BHW cab I own.

So hear is the question I get from non music people; Are these amps really worth $3500 a piece?

Yes :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:

If you know what you want in guitar tone and it is the modded Marshall type of tone, these amps just kill. At 50 years old I hopefully have 25 more years of rocking, then I hope to give these to my kids. I will buy more gear in the future, I just will not sell these 2 amps.
 
Could you describe a bit more detailed the difference between your '75 KS and the BE-100? :)

Cheers.
 
Jofipe":h57wrh2e said:
Could you describe a bit more detailed the difference between your '75 KS and the BE-100? :)

Cheers.

The 75 is a bit more noisy when you use the effects loop and the clean is not as warm. The clean is good on the 75 but not as good as the BE
 
guitarmike":13k0v0ya said:
Jofipe":13k0v0ya said:
Could you describe a bit more detailed the difference between your '75 KS and the BE-100? :)

Cheers.

The 75 is a bit more noisy when you use the effects loop and the clean is not as warm. The clean is good on the 75 but not as good as the BE


Seems like you've answered your own question...
 
Buy a Kemper and sell them all with money in the bank.......problem solved. :D

To be honest, you'll have an easier time selling the Friedman. Cameron seems dead in the water right now.
 
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Which is a shame, because the CCV sounds fantastic.
 
rlord1974":3ri9evpg said:
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Which is a shame, because the CCV sounds fantastic.

The CCV sounds as good as the BE. I am not saying this because I am selling one, it really is that good. I think I am going to try to sell the old modded Marshall one more time, if it sells for a fair price, I'll sell my g12-h30 cab and a guitar. That will be enough to keep the CCV and BE. I have learned a good lesson here. :bash:
 
Nothing seems to be selling at a good price these days . I have seen a KS marshall floating around for $1875 and no one buying it . Maybe its yours I don't know .
Tell you what send me the one you decide to let go and I will send you $10 a month :rock:
 
Damn, that is quite a dilemma. Well whatever decision you make will be good since both are great amps. I would get rid of the Marshall KS though and other stuff if you can. That is what I would do.
 
If the BE-100 and the CCV sound so alike, can your musical needs be met by just one of them.. i.e. the pragmatic side of me asks why even keep 2 amps? I know... it becomes a pretty emotional kind of decision at this point :D especially when you have 2 really top-shelf amps on your hands. Nice problem to have bro! If this was my dilemma I'd close my eyes, empty my mind of all distraction, and in this focussed zen-like state I'd A/B the BE-100 and CCV and then keep the one that speaks to me the loudest and sell the other two.

Its not just Camerons that are taking a beating in the classifieds... everything is it seems. Perhaps the fast-paced RT classifieds of 2-3 years ago was just an artificial bubble and the current state is the more normal reality? :confused: I dunno....
 
MichaelG":282m4ys7 said:
Perhaps the fast-paced RT classifieds of 2-3 years ago was just an artificial bubble and the current state is the more normal reality? :confused: I dunno....

Nah. You've got it all wrong. Things are just slow for the time being because Steve has (temporarily) stopped buying tube amps.

2 or 3 years ago, Steve was buying a couple of modded Marshalls every week!

;)
 
I had the same problem, I owned a CCV with matching CCV cabinet and the BE-100 with a Friedman cabinet. I setup my Radial ABY switcher and just switched between the two for about a week with different guitars. I ended up keeping the Friedman, was just a better fit for me. Both are great amps, I can defiantly hear the differance in tube preamp gain and diode clipping gain. It's nice to have the option of high gain tones with the friedman with tube or diode clipping but I prefer tube preamp gain and now rarely use the Sat switch. It's hard to get a high gain tone out of the CCV without using the clipping options.
 
rlord1974":2dackz78 said:
MichaelG":2dackz78 said:
Perhaps the fast-paced RT classifieds of 2-3 years ago was just an artificial bubble and the current state is the more normal reality? :confused: I dunno....

Nah. You've got it all wrong. Things are just slow for the time being because Steve has (temporarily) stopped buying tube amps.

2 or 3 years ago, Steve was buying a couple of modded Marshalls every week!

;)

:lol: :LOL: Truth!
 
splatter":1yao6bwv said:
Nothing seems to be selling at a good price these days . I have seen a KS marshall floating around for $1875 and no one buying it . Maybe its yours I don't know .
Tell you what send me the one you decide to let go and I will send you $10 a month :rock:
That was my Marshall, I'll probably try it again tomorrow.
 
bwgintegra":1twc3d2u said:
I had the same problem, I owned a CCV with matching CCV cabinet and the BE-100 with a Friedman cabinet. I setup my Radial ABY switcher and just switched between the two for about a week with different guitars. I ended up keeping the Friedman, was just a better fit for me. Both are great amps, I can defiantly hear the differance in tube preamp gain and diode clipping gain. It's nice to have the option of high gain tones with the friedman with tube or diode clipping but I prefer tube preamp gain and now rarely use the Sat switch. It's hard to get a high gain tone out of the CCV without using the clipping options.

So far I am opposite of you. I like the CCV a little better than the Friedman, the diodes don't bother me. I think if people heard the CCV next to the BE used CCV's would be selling for as much as used BE's. Both are world class amps, if you are after those types of tones, nothing beats them.
 
The CCV can tear your face off - in a GREAT way. :thumbsup: It was definitely a fun amp to play on. It just didn't end up fitting into what I'm playing anymore, and I'm trying to be a little bit more responsible in my gear hoarding, so it had to go. :lol: :LOL:

FWIW, I'd keep the CCV and the BE and sell the KS and some spare parts. If you decide two months from now that you don't need the CCV anymore, or would simply prefer a second amp with a whole different thing going on, you'll still have the high-valued CCV to move for funding purposes. :thumbsup:

I doubt you would really miss the KS if you hold onto the BE..... :confused:
 
To further support my position, just look at how BADASS this rig is.....

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I'm not missing seeing a Kitchen Sink in this photo..... ;)
 
Had both, the ccv has a more aggressive pissed off tone, the be was more organic high gain tone. Both are great as I guess you will decide by what the tone in your head is looking for. It is cool to own both for sure. In the man cave I would pick the ccv.
 
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