Another Reverb Prick - UPDATE: HERE'S HIS FRIVOLOUS CLAIM!

[Racerxrated]

Hopefully it's all worked out now and you can just forget about it.

It drives my wife nuts, but this is one of the reasons why I buy gear in bursts from Guitar Center. If I want a new amp/guitar/whatever, I end up buying several all at once from Guitar Center and will start returning them until I find the keeper. And I'll happily pay GC a bit of a premium even if I can find a better deal somewhere else because I know I can return it to GC without having to stress about trying to sell it down the road to some jerk trying to screw me.

Well said. 45 days on used gear is a beautiful thing!

 

[SavageRiffer]

Hopefully it's all worked out now and you can just forget about it.

It drives my wife nuts, but this is one of the reasons why I buy gear in bursts from Guitar Center. If I want a new amp/guitar/whatever, I end up buying several all at once from Guitar Center and will start returning them until I find the keeper. And I'll happily pay GC a bit of a premium even if I can find a better deal somewhere else because I know I can return it to GC without having to stress about trying to sell it down the road to some jerk trying to screw me.

There are definitely benefits to buying retail. Unfortunately, most of us can't afford the kind of gear we have unless we buy used gear. I used to buy a lot from Guitar Center back when they would make deals with you. Now they'll only let you have a discount when it applies, but never applies to brands like Bogner, Friedman, Fulltone, etc.

 

[SpiderWars]

I find GC used prices to be lower than what the dreamers want and competitive otherwise. And unless it's vintage you have that lengthy return policy (only 3 days on vintage gear). For stuff like 4x12s that are hard to move once you have it, having that return policy has huge value for me. Also, if the item has sat at GC for something like 90 days you can contact the store manager and make an offer, I got my last Marshall 4x12 that way.

EG: They have a good condition 20th Anni Shiva for $1799. Seems reasonable, so tempted.

 

[Candiria]

Hopefully it's all worked out now and you can just forget about it.

It drives my wife nuts, but this is one of the reasons why I buy gear in bursts from Guitar Center. If I want a new amp/guitar/whatever, I end up buying several all at once from Guitar Center and will start returning them until I find the keeper. And I'll happily pay GC a bit of a premium even if I can find a better deal somewhere else because I know I can return it to GC without having to stress about trying to sell it down the road to some jerk trying to screw me.

I own a VHT 50cl, and just bought a Sig X off of Reverb. I like the Sig better so I'm going to be selling the 50, but decided to grab a 100cl from Guitar Center to see if the 100w power amp will make me like the Pittbull more. It's something like $12 in handling to "rent" an amp from them for a month and be able to test it out and compare it. I've tried so many amps out this way, and they don't ask questions because I do keep some of the amps that I try out. It's really the best thing about Guitar Center.

 

[SavageRiffer]

Oh my God! He did exactly what everyone expected him to do. This is what he sent me a little while ago.

"Hi, the good news is the amp arrived, the bad is that there is not the same loudness or volume a 50w amp is supposed to have. I'm not sure what's wrong with it but I don't see any evidence of any damage as it was packed well, thanks. To be clear, I originally asked if you'd resend with fedex instead and if you didn't or couldn't, THEN send a refund. I never said or demanded a refund because it was shipped UPS instead of fedex but you went all over the place with assumptions that I wanted a refund because it was sent UPS instead of fedex as discussed. That was the cause of frustration.. maybe a communication problem. However, now that it's not apparently working as it should it may be necessary to send back anyway for a full refund, sorry.
Lanz Kavian Jun 19, 2017 11:55 AM"

 

[cardinal]

That's so lame. Sorry dude. I would be livid. Hopefully he sunk any claim by noting that he sees no damage and it was packed well.

If reverb or paypal starts siding with him, I'd ask for a cell phone recording of him putting his head right next to a speaker with the amp on 10 for 60 seconds, no ear plugs. Prove to me it's not loud!

 

[Badronald]

Ah, that sucks.

 

[harddriver]

Oh my God! He did exactly what everyone expected him to do. This is what he sent me a little while ago.

"Hi, the good news is the amp arrived, the bad is that there is not the same loudness or volume a 50w amp is supposed to have. I'm not sure what's wrong with it but I don't see any evidence of any damage as it was packed well, thanks. To be clear, I originally asked if you'd resend with fedex instead and if you didn't or couldn't, THEN send a refund. I never said or demanded a refund because it was shipped UPS instead of fedex but you went all over the place with assumptions that I wanted a refund because it was sent UPS instead of fedex as discussed. That was the cause of frustration.. maybe a communication problem. However, now that it's not apparently working as it should it may be necessary to send back anyway for a full refund, sorry.
lanz kavian Jun 19, 2017 11:55 AM"

He was trying to back out of the deal after you shipped the amp that was obvious... he should have just been honest with and paid the return freight and sent it right back to you. Instead he unpacked it, played it, then decided he doesn't want it now you risk it getting damaged on the return shipping. The buyer needs to pay to return ship your amp period... unless you offered returns on your ad.

I really don't like shipping amps at all anymore period seems no matter how you pack em it's a 50/50 gamble.

 

[scottosan]

Oh my God! He did exactly what everyone expected him to do. This is what he sent me a little while ago.

"Hi, the good news is the amp arrived, the bad is that there is not the same loudness or volume a 50w amp is supposed to have. I'm not sure what's wrong with it but I don't see any evidence of any damage as it was packed well, thanks. To be clear, I originally asked if you'd resend with fedex instead and if you didn't or couldn't, THEN send a refund. I never said or demanded a refund because it was shipped UPS instead of fedex but you went all over the place with assumptions that I wanted a refund because it was sent UPS instead of fedex as discussed. That was the cause of frustration.. maybe a communication problem. However, now that it's not apparently working as it should it may be necessary to send back anyway for a full refund, sorry.
lanz kavian Jun 19, 2017 11:55 AM"

I would make it painful and ask that regardless of the condition, you would like to file a claim to protect yourself. Then once it denied twice, let him return it on his dime and give him a full refund minus shipping.

 

[JerEvil]

Oh my God! He did exactly what everyone expected him to do. This is what he sent me a little while ago.

"Hi, the good news is the amp arrived, the bad is that there is not the same loudness or volume a 50w amp is supposed to have. I'm not sure what's wrong with it but I don't see any evidence of any damage as it was packed well, thanks. To be clear, I originally asked if you'd resend with fedex instead and if you didn't or couldn't, THEN send a refund. I never said or demanded a refund because it was shipped UPS instead of fedex but you went all over the place with assumptions that I wanted a refund because it was sent UPS instead of fedex as discussed. That was the cause of frustration.. maybe a communication problem. However, now that it's not apparently working as it should it may be necessary to send back anyway for a full refund, sorry.
lanz kavian Jun 19, 2017 11:55 AM"

I would make it painful and ask that regardless of the condition, you would like to file a claim to protect yourself. Then once it denied twice, let him return it on his dime and give him a full refund minus shipping.

This right here. he spent money he didn't have and now regrets it most likely.

 

[scary groove]

Couldn't you ask him to take it to a local authorized repair shop to have it evaluated? Might be a failed tube at most(?) Chances are you will get it back and it will be as good as it was when you shipped it.

 

[alan67]

Oh my God! He did exactly what everyone expected him to do. This is what he sent me a little while ago.

"Hi, the good news is the amp arrived, the bad is that there is not the same loudness or volume a 50w amp is supposed to have. I'm not sure what's wrong with it but I don't see any evidence of any damage as it was packed well, thanks. To be clear, I originally asked if you'd resend with fedex instead and if you didn't or couldn't, THEN send a refund. I never said or demanded a refund because it was shipped UPS instead of fedex but you went all over the place with assumptions that I wanted a refund because it was sent UPS instead of fedex as discussed. That was the cause of frustration.. maybe a communication problem. However, now that it's not apparently working as it should it may be necessary to send back anyway for a full refund, sorry.
lanz kavian Jun 19, 2017 11:55 AM"

Unfuckingbelieveable! Total bullshit AND totally telegraphed as well.....I'll stick with buying and selling with the established dudes here...

 

[SavageRiffer]

After reading our messages, Reverb has assigned an agent "to assist us." I contacted them over the weekend and that's the response I just received a little while ago. I have a bad feeling about this. I hope Reverb doesn't let him screw me over.

 

[Oblivion DC]

Who is this guy again?? I just want to be sure I never do business with him.

 

[mystixboi]

I have been following this post since the thread started and I am absolutely sickened by this kind of behavior from the buyer. I hope you get to work everything out.

 

[mystixboi]

Who is this guy again?? I just want to be sure I never do business with him.

Looks like his name is lanz kavian

 

[scottosan]

I just had a thought. When I first got my Helios I though the same thing. I think I remember the master on the back affected the amp whether there was something in the loop or not.

 

[napalmdeath]

I just had a thought. When I first got my Helios I though the same thing. I think I remember the master on the back affected the amp whether there was something in the loop or not.

+1. I remember the same thing, it's a loop return level. You can also bypass the loop as well with the switch.

I'd have this clown turn the knob, and/or bypass the loop all together with the switch and see if he's just an idiot.

My guess is, "nope, still isn't right, I need to return it". What a fucking scumbag. I just dealt with one on Reverb myself over a stupid 2x12 cabinet. I had Reverb all over it, and they were looking to possibly suspend his account. He was like your guy, except he wanted the cab, just played alot of games, full of smartass remarks, insults, and just plain verbally abusive.

 

[mooncobra]

Oh my God! He did exactly what everyone expected him to do. This is what he sent me a little while ago.

"Hi, the good news is the amp arrived, the bad is that there is not the same loudness or volume a 50w amp is supposed to have. I'm not sure what's wrong with it but I don't see any evidence of any damage as it was packed well, thanks. To be clear, I originally asked if you'd resend with fedex instead and if you didn't or couldn't, THEN send a refund. I never said or demanded a refund because it was shipped UPS instead of fedex but you went all over the place with assumptions that I wanted a refund because it was sent UPS instead of fedex as discussed. That was the cause of frustration.. maybe a communication problem. However, now that it's not apparently working as it should it may be necessary to send back anyway for a full refund, sorry.
L.K. Jun 19, 2017 11:55 AM"

what a prick!

 

[sg guy]

-unfortunately this scam has been going on for a few year's now, every site and payment form are all geared to protect the buyer, nothing to protect the seller, sadly its not a matter of if you'll get fucked, but when, and how much, worse case scenario, you pay to get fucked, and lose your amp/guitar etc.

-this dick isn't very smoothe, but even with the message documentation, still has the ball in his court, I hope this isn't the case,

-never one problem buying & selling on RIG TALK,