anyone play an XTC with a 2x12?

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and if so which one? Ideally I'd like an OS 2X12 but vehicle restraints may make this difficult, so any other options.
 
I do at home and for anything local. I use a Bogner 2x12, loaded with v30's... for your space restrictions, you might want to consider a Mesa Recto Series 2x12. I'm not usually a fan of Mesa/Boogie, but it's the smallest 2x12 cab I can think of.
 
I just sold a Mesa 2x12 Recto and bought a Bogner OS 2x12. IMHO the Mesa is not in the same league as the Bogner.
 
bognerluv":1v7x5l6m said:
I just sold a Mesa 2x12 Recto and bought a Bogner OS 2x12. IMHO the Mesa is not in the same league as the Bogner.

I agree. I never said that it was as good as the Bogner. I just said that it was the one of the smaller 2x12's I could think of. The original poster was concerned with size. The Mesa cab is considerably smaller than the 2x12's that Bogner offers... in the U.S., at least.
 
tom_h":3ou2z8ib said:
bognerluv":3ou2z8ib said:
I just sold a Mesa 2x12 Recto and bought a Bogner OS 2x12. IMHO the Mesa is not in the same league as the Bogner.

I agree. I never said that it was as good as the Bogner. I just said that it was the one of the smaller 2x12's I could think of. The original poster was concerned with size. The Mesa cab is considerably smaller than the 2x12's that Bogner offers... in the U.S., at least.


Some 2x12s with dimensions for reference..

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430(H)x755(W)x356(D) bogner


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444(H)×765(W)x362(D) mesa


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483(H)×738(W)×360(D) diezel


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465(H)x775(W)×365(D) Basson


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490(H)×710(W)×340(D) Dr Z


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530(H)x780(W)X380(D) Orange
 
I highly recommend staying away from Basson. The Eminence Legends they use in those things are about as bad as it gets!
 
boof":cvjmxr7o said:
tom_h":cvjmxr7o said:
bognerluv":cvjmxr7o said:
I just sold a Mesa 2x12 Recto and bought a Bogner OS 2x12. IMHO the Mesa is not in the same league as the Bogner.

I agree. I never said that it was as good as the Bogner. I just said that it was the one of the smaller 2x12's I could think of. The original poster was concerned with size. The Mesa cab is considerably smaller than the 2x12's that Bogner offers... in the U.S., at least.


Some 2x12s with dimensions for reference..

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430(H)x755(W)x356(D) bogner

Maybe I'm wrong on this, or misinformed; but from what I've been told, that particular Bogner cab is made for their Japanese distributor and is not available for sale outside of Japan. For example, in the US; Bogner offers only the Shiva-sized and Oversized options on their 2x12 cabinets.
 
tom_h":8imm7art said:
boof":8imm7art said:
tom_h":8imm7art said:
bognerluv":8imm7art said:
I just sold a Mesa 2x12 Recto and bought a Bogner OS 2x12. IMHO the Mesa is not in the same league as the Bogner.

I agree. I never said that it was as good as the Bogner. I just said that it was the one of the smaller 2x12's I could think of. The original poster was concerned with size. The Mesa cab is considerably smaller than the 2x12's that Bogner offers... in the U.S., at least.


Some 2x12s with dimensions for reference..

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430(H)x755(W)x356(D) bogner

Maybe I'm wrong on this, or misinformed; but from what I've been told, that particular Bogner cab is made for their Japanese distributor and is not available for sale outside of Japan. For example, in the US; Bogner offers only the Shiva-sized and Oversized options on their 2x12 cabinets.


Tom,
You might be right on that. all the information I got was from Japan stores.
 
boof":n3e20mdl said:
tom_h":n3e20mdl said:
boof":n3e20mdl said:
tom_h":n3e20mdl said:
bognerluv":n3e20mdl said:
I just sold a Mesa 2x12 Recto and bought a Bogner OS 2x12. IMHO the Mesa is not in the same league as the Bogner.

I agree. I never said that it was as good as the Bogner. I just said that it was the one of the smaller 2x12's I could think of. The original poster was concerned with size. The Mesa cab is considerably smaller than the 2x12's that Bogner offers... in the U.S., at least.


Some 2x12s with dimensions for reference..

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430(H)x755(W)x356(D) bogner

Maybe I'm wrong on this, or misinformed; but from what I've been told, that particular Bogner cab is made for their Japanese distributor and is not available for sale outside of Japan. For example, in the US; Bogner offers only the Shiva-sized and Oversized options on their 2x12 cabinets.


Tom,
You might be right on that. all the information I got was from Japan stores.

I spoke to Bogner a few days ago and they mentioned another 2x12 option (fairly new). It is intended to sit under a 4x12 for a 3/4 stack kind of feel. I wonder if that 2x12 listed above is a picture of that???
 
bognerluv":1brocfqz said:
I spoke to Bogner a few days ago and they mentioned another 2x12 option (fairly new). It is intended to sit under a 4x12 for a 3/4 stack kind of feel. I wonder if that 2x12 listed above is a picture of that???

That would be the one. I guess they're going to start offering it worldwide now... Maybe?
 
tom_h":27ufhs8l said:
bognerluv":27ufhs8l said:
I spoke to Bogner a few days ago and they mentioned another 2x12 option (fairly new). It is intended to sit under a 4x12 for a 3/4 stack kind of feel. I wonder if that 2x12 listed above is a picture of that???

That would be the one. I guess they're going to start offering it worldwide now... Maybe?


there is a guy in japan that is a popular guitarist for a band named Bz. He has or had that type of set up a 4x12 with a 2x12 under it (I might be thinking of VHT on second though). but that might be why it came to Japan.

Also spotted another 2x12 from bogner...
2x12%20Custom%202009.jpg
 
boof":2udh69mm said:
tom_h":2udh69mm said:
bognerluv":2udh69mm said:
I spoke to Bogner a few days ago and they mentioned another 2x12 option (fairly new). It is intended to sit under a 4x12 for a 3/4 stack kind of feel. I wonder if that 2x12 listed above is a picture of that???

That would be the one. I guess they're going to start offering it worldwide now... Maybe?


there is a guy in japan that is a popular guitarist for a band named Bz. He has or had that type of set up a 4x12 with a 2x12 under it (I might be thinking of VHT on second though). but that might be why it came to Japan.

Also spotted another 2x12 from bogner...
2x12%20Custom%202009.jpg


looks the the same cab, turned on it's side, with the logo turned 90 degrees.
 
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430(H)x755(W)x356(D) bogner


I wish they would do a cab like this in Anniversary White here in the UK!!
 
Steve Thomas":19ltz0hs said:
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430(H)x755(W)x356(D) bogner


I wish they would do a cab like this in Anniversary White here in the UK!!

well they do one that is for sure. give them a call and see if they have any plans of shipping to the UK or buy from Japan if you have the cash.

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boof":4ed48nxu said:
there is a guy in japan that is a popular guitarist for a band named Bz. He has or had that type of set up a 4x12 with a 2x12 under it (I might be thinking of VHT on second though). but that might be why it came to Japan.

No, you're right, Tak uses Bogner ^.~
 
I can get those cabs. In fact im getting the 2 vertical 2x12s on tuesday for myself and picking up 2 horizontal ones to sell. I like these cabs better than the regular 2x12s. They are alot punchier and have a tighter bass responce. Also, they are front loaded so that helps.

roba
 
bognerluv":36wl5fwz said:
I just sold a Mesa 2x12 Recto and bought a Bogner OS 2x12. IMHO the Mesa is not in the same league as the Bogner.

100% disagree. I found the Mesa 2x12 to be >>> construction than the Bogner. However, I did not care for how my Classic sounded through it. The Mesa Recto cab was designed specifically for the Recto sound.....so just because it doesn't sound great with an XTC, it does not place it in an inferior class.
 
The Dr.Z Best is a great 2x12 cabinet. Lots of mids, sounds more vintage than the Bogner OS.
Sounds equally good vertically, so you can hear yourself better.
 
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