Attention Brad

[Aceofspades]

To Brad King
I'm using an alternate name since I like being a part of this forum and am afraid,like others, of being banned. 

I am one of the 12 or 14 people that are owed a CCV from "Cameron Amps".  You said that you would make it right by getting us our owed amps. You went into business with a shady character (which has shady undertones in itself)  knowing that he ripped me and a bunch of others off for thousands. You threw yourself up on a pedestal claiming to be the savior of Cameron amps and were going to get our owed amps out of Mark Cameron's paid compensation  I've read all of the bullshit about it being after the 4th run...but here you are having problems building AND selling the second run. ALSO...you claim that you have no idea where Mark is or lives...so obviously you are keeping Marks share of profits from Cameron Amps. Why can't you put 100% of that money toward the 12-14 owed amps. I've been talking to a bunch of people and I know it only costs $1,800-$2,000 to build a CCV, so based on the profits you made you clearly have enough of Mark's money to build us our amps since you made us pay additional money (almost enough to cover 100% of the build cost) to you...like a ransom.  I had to pay $1,000 additional. 

It's bad enough that you keep pushing off the second run of CCV's, and based on one of George M's post, he seems to be having problems building it as well. There is a lack of communication between the builder and owner since the 2nd run ahold be shipping this month. I bet the delivery will be pushed off again. 

Also, you claim to be the stand up guy... I want you to PUBLICALLY announce that you personally, Brad King, King Guitars, et al will get us our amps as you promised...even if you sell your share of Cameron Amp to a new buyer. I want to see you say that you will be personally involved until the last owed amp is received!!!

I don't want to hear some cry baby story about how hard it is/was to work with Mark Cameron or how hard it is/was to bring an amp to market...you've made a ton of profit off of this project and it's time to live up to your end of the deal. GET US OUR AMPS!!!

I eagerly await your response. 

 

[killertone]

 

[zewango]

 

[snowdog]

Too bad you got ripped off in the first place. Coming on here acting like a dick probably wont help your chances of getting anything.

 

[Ventura]

Publicly, not "pubically". I don't wanna see anything of the sort from Brad.

Just saying.

 

[dawnofdreamx97]

Here i go, here i go, here i go again! ....

 

[glip22]

To Brad King
I'm using an alternate name since I like being a part of this forum and am afraid,like others, of being banned. 

I am one of the 12 or 14 people that are owed a CCV from "Cameron Amps".  You said that you would make it right by getting us our owed amps. You went into business with a shady character (which has shady undertones in itself)  knowing that he ripped me and a bunch of others off for thousands. You threw yourself up on a pedestal claiming to be the savior of Cameron amps and were going to get our owed amps out of Mark Cameron's paid compensation  I've read all of the bullshit about it being after the 4th run...but here you are having problems building AND selling the second run. ALSO...you claim that you have no idea where Mark is or lives...so obviously you are keeping Marks share of profits from Cameron Amps. Why can't you put 100% of that money toward the 12-14 owed amps. I've been talking to a bunch of people and I know it only costs $1,800-$2,000 to build a CCV, so based on the profits you made you clearly have enough of Mark's money to build us our amps since you made us pay additional money (almost enough to cover 100% of the build cost) to you...like a ransom.  I had to pay $1,000 additional. 

It's bad enough that you keep pushing off the second run of CCV's, and based on one of George M's post, he seems to be having problems building it as well. There is a lack of communication between the builder and owner since the 2nd run ahold be shipping this month. I bet the delivery will be pushed off again. 

Also, you claim to be the stand up guy... I want you to PUBLICALLY announce that you personally, Brad King, King Guitars, et al will get us our amps as you promised...even if you sell your share of Cameron Amp to a new buyer. I want to see you say that you will be personally involved until the last owed amp is received!!!

I don't want to hear some cry baby story about how hard it is/was to work with Mark Cameron or how hard it is/was to bring an amp to market...you've made a ton of profit off of this project and it's time to live up to your end of the deal. GET US OUR AMPS!!!

I eagerly await your response. 

 

[~Abstract~]

IIRC he said he would "...try which is your best hope at the moment"

 

[Tone Zone]

Brad doesn't owe you SHIT!

 

[glip22]

If I was stupid enough to send Mark money when he was hurting I would be mad at myself. Mark is not a malicious person. He tried like hell, as best as he could, to get the amps done. He fell behind in his bills, etc. so he spent your money. You cannot build amps with no electricity. Have you or anyone you know ever suffered from severe depression? You knew going into it you were taking a risk and if you didn't Shame on You. I feel for you guys that lost money but shit I lost money in the stock market. Not much different. I'm not going down to wall street headhunting. Brad is your only hope. You may as well walk away after your thread. Do you really think he profited yet. I bet you are wrong.

 

[gbsmusic]

Brad said he is going to take care of those people right? I haven't heard that anything on that note that things have changed or have I missed something? I sure hope nothing has changed in what Brad said. He's a stand up guy and until proven wrong I have found that he's a man of his word!!

 

[hellaboogie]

Brad said he is going to take care of those people right? I haven't heard that anything on that note that things have changed or have I missed something? I sure hope nothing has changed in what Brad said. He's a stand up guy and until proven wrong I have found that he's a man of his word!!

 

[Tone Zone]

If I was stupid enough to send Mark money when he was hurting I would be mad at myself. Mark is not a malicious person. He tried like hell, as best as he could, to get the amps done. He fell behind in his bills, etc. so he spent your money. You cannot build amps with no electricity. Have you or anyone you know ever suffered from severe depression? You knew going into it you were taking a risk and if you didn't Shame on You. I feel for you guys that lost money but shit I lost money in the stock market. Not much different. I'm not going down to wall street headhunting. Brad is your only hope. You may as well walk away after your thread. Do you really think he profited yet. I bet you are wrong.

What makes me sick is that the dude comes on the main forum to air out his grievances with Brad. He clearly has addressed this thread to Brad.....so why not PM him instead and take it up with him personally? But no, he post a thread here as if to summon ppl to his cause. Well, guess what? I don't fucking come here to rally someone else's personal cause! Take this matter up with him personally and stop trying to get other people to handle your business......cause, we don't give a flyin' fuck!

 

[OUTLAW1969]

From what I understood, Brad said he would try to help you guys out even though it was "pre-Brad" dealings that you are upset about. But he is under NO OBLIGATION to make that happen. I would back up a step or two, and knock off the attitude, before Brad steps up and tells you to fuck off.

 

[glpg80]

Brad said he is going to take care of those people right? I haven't heard that anything on that note that things have changed or have I missed something? I sure hope nothing has changed in what Brad said. He's a stand up guy and until proven wrong I have found that he's a man of his word!!

+1

Just because he is not on the forum all of the time because he has a life does not mean he is two faced or going against his own word. If all you are looking for is confirmation why not get his business/contact number under your real username and give the man a call? Petty drama posts over a forum that include bashing and two-faced attitudes are certainly not the way to go about this.

besides, he as well as moderators can see your IP address and match who it is quite easily.

 

[Aceofspades]

Brad said he is going to take care of those people right? I haven't heard that anything on that note that things have changed or have I missed something? I sure hope nothing has changed in what Brad said. He's a stand up guy and until proven wrong I have found that he's a man of his word!!

Word on the street is that Brad is looking to sell Cameron amps. No Brad will really mean no owed amps being received.

 

[glpg80]

Brad said he is going to take care of those people right? I haven't heard that anything on that note that things have changed or have I missed something? I sure hope nothing has changed in what Brad said. He's a stand up guy and until proven wrong I have found that he's a man of his word!!

Word on the street is that Brad is looking to sell Cameron amps. No Brad will really mean no owed amps being received.

Regardless of his intentions King Guitars is not a non-profit organization operating on donations. The man is a business man, saw a business opportunity in starting Cameron Amplifiers. The fact Cameron is not a part of it is actually better, Cameron was the one that fucked you over and not Brad. Brad needs to sell amplifiers before he can eat 12 fuckups that existed before it even started. Give the guy a break and use a bit of common sense.

 

[Tone Zone]

Word on the street is that Brad is looking to sell Cameron amps. No Brad will really mean no owed amps being received.

Word on the street is that you've got a huge case of BUTT-HURT !!!

 

[OUTLAW1969]

To Brad King
You went into business with a shady character (which has shady undertones in itself)  knowing that he ripped me and a bunch of others off for thousands.

You entered into your own business contract with Mark, NOT Brad

I've read all of the bullshit about it being after the 4th run.. How about NEVER?.

It's bad enough that you keep pushing off the second run of CCV's..........There is a lack of communication between the builder and owner........Exactly, so deal with Mark yourself, then.



Also, you claim to be the stand up guy... I want you to PUBLICALLY announce that you personally, Brad King, King Guitars, et al will get us our amps as you promised...even if you sell your share of Cameron Amp to a new buyer. I want to see you say that you will be personally involved until the last owed amp is received!!! ie. I DEMAND a favor from you, Brad

I don't want to hear some cry baby story about how hard it is/was to work with Mark Cameron.........Then go to California and get it from Mark yourself 

 

[King Guitar]

To Brad King
I'm using an alternate name since I like being a part of this forum and am afraid,like others, of being banned.

I am one of the 12 or 14 people that are owed a CCV from "Cameron Amps". You said that you would make it right by getting us our owed amps. You went into business with a shady character (which has shady undertones in itself) knowing that he ripped me and a bunch of others off for thousands. You threw yourself up on a pedestal claiming to be the savior of Cameron amps and were going to get our owed amps out of Mark Cameron's paid compensation I've read all of the bullshit about it being after the 4th run...but here you are having problems building AND selling the second run. ALSO...you claim that you have no idea where Mark is or lives...so obviously you are keeping Marks share of profits from Cameron Amps. Why can't you put 100% of that money toward the 12-14 owed amps. I've been talking to a bunch of people and I know it only costs $1,800-$2,000 to build a CCV, so based on the profits you made you clearly have enough of Mark's money to build us our amps since you made us pay additional money (almost enough to cover 100% of the build cost) to you...like a ransom. I had to pay $1,000 additional.

It's bad enough that you keep pushing off the second run of CCV's, and based on one of George M's post, he seems to be having problems building it as well. There is a lack of communication between the builder and owner since the 2nd run ahold be shipping this month. I bet the delivery will be pushed off again.

Also, you claim to be the stand up guy... I want you to PUBLICALLY announce that you personally, Brad King, King Guitars, et al will get us our amps as you promised...even if you sell your share of Cameron Amp to a new buyer. I want to see you say that you will be personally involved until the last owed amp is received!!!

I don't want to hear some cry baby story about how hard it is/was to work with Mark Cameron or how hard it is/was to bring an amp to market...you've made a ton of profit off of this project and it's time to live up to your end of the deal. GET US OUR AMPS!!!

I eagerly await your response.

Well, I will not ban you or delete your thread I will ask you to post up your name seeing how I don't hide mine.

Lets Recap:

You sent your money to Mark Cameron not to me. You got screwed over, agreed but guess what, it wasn't by me.

Did you send me any money? Big Hell No there...

Do I have a dime of your money? Roger that, Hell No.

Do we have good intentions for you guys that sent Mark Cameron money before I ever got involved? Sure we do.

Do I owe you anything? I damn sure do not.

Read again you didn't give me a dime.

I didn't take a dime from you and I do not have your dime.

The intention was always to have Mark WORK and pay back "restitution" for the money HE took from you not for me to pay off his debts.

Well guess what, he quit, he isn't working and there is no money to take from his earnings because he is not earning it. He has let you and me down for that matter once again.

The reason the 2nd run got "pushed off" was we had to find another way to make them that would not involve Mark at all seeing how he is gone.

See this is the part when other guys who tried to help Mark say Fuck it and go home. This movie has played before.

Not us though, we figure it out.

We bring in the best guys we try to keep designs rolling. Does that make us heroes, not by a long shot but we damn sure are not quitters either.

You made a bad decision dealing with Mark when you probably knew it was not smart to do so. So own up to it my man.

Nobody who ever dealt with me got screwed, They all are getting what they paid for even if there are obstacles at every pass we clear the road and keep going.

For the 99% of the guys who realize it wasn't me that screwed them over please know we got your back and we are doing all we can, to the guys or more like the GUY, Ace of Spades, we still have your back but you make it hard to want to help you.

Read again I do not owe you a thing. Nothing! Not legally, not morally not anyway.

You want to throw rocks at me go ahead but your hurting the only guy who has tried take hold of for this mess and YOUR BAD DECISION to send Mark Cameron money.

Have we made a fortune? not even close.

Someday we hope to be profitable but for now it is break even at best.

I am not a church, I wish I could build them for $10 bucks and sell them for $10 Million but it doesn't work like that, especially in the world of Cameron but you, sir have no clue about it and your sources are equally clueless, I am not trying to sell anything. Fuck I couldn't give this mess away.

So to sum it up. I don't owe you a thing. And your "word on the street" is bullshit.

Good thing the amps we do have sound amazing so we got that going for us.

My number is below, feel free to call me Man to Man if you want to chat tomorrow during business hours.

Brad King