rsm
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This is a starfish from Australia:
rsm
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Thumbpicker
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Do you know how herd immunity works?
Thumbpicker
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Exactly. The number of people that benefited outweighed the number of people with side effects… To quote Spock “the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few” lol
Bad Brain
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Yeah, but the vaccine doesn’t stop transmission. And they knew it from the beginning. Even if it did, given the risks involved, it has to be each person’s choice.
This is the justification, but it’s only been asserted, never demonstrated, or at least convincingly so (Maybe it’s been “modeled”). What you’re talking about here is the difference between collectivism, where society’s well-being takes priority (As determined by the few BTW ?) vs individualism, where individuals rights can’t be sacrificed for the collective. Western culture is ostensibly an individualist society, but many fools have been convinced that they are being good people by prioritizing the supposed well-being of the collective.
Bad Brain
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From the Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights:
2. The interests and welfare of the individual should have priority over the sole interest of science or society.https://www.unesco.org/en/legal-affairs/universal-declaration-bioethics-and-human-rights?hub=66535
Dan Gleesak
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The rhetoric against it is just too all over the place for me to take seriously.
First it was the roll out, then “it’s gene therapy!” and then the myocarditis. And Bill Gates for some reason? It never ends. It reminds me of a bunch of gossiping old ladies at the hairdresser.
Everyone forgets (ignores) that the Johnson and Johnson vaccine was not an MRNA and it still had the same potential risks.
So basically the virus and the vaccine have some similar risks. The difference being that millions and millions of people didn’t die from being vaccinated, like they did from Covid virus (even though like 70% of the world received a vax).
So yea while it’s sad and unfortunate that some people are having adverse reactions to a vaccine, some very severe, but I also remember when people were dying faster than they could be treated. Hospitals were full, Field beds were being set up so people could die in quarantine and the New England Patriots jet had to fly to China for medical supplies because we were running out.
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VonBonfire
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You must be willfully ignorant. It's designed using harvested aborted fetal cells. That you accept and are ok with that tells me you aren't thinking clearly and just going along with the directives handed down. So put aside all the claims of myocarditis and other side effects and realize you took some mad science crap. Of course the golden boy will see no evil.
Dan Gleesak
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Not the J&J vaccine, is that the one you got?
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VonBonfire
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Oh so you took the J&J?
Dan Gleesak
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nope. But I’m not complaining about the other ones either.
Bad Brain
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Let’s not forget they ended up declaring the j&j generally unsafe ?
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Krull
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Ayniab27
All you need is another booster 27
All you need is another booster 27
Bad Brain
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How’s that my friend? …it’s all “Missing context?”
Dan Gleesak
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Lol my last booster was January of 2022, but sure keep riffing on that for another couple years if it makes you happy.
What’s the deal with masks huh?
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Krull
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What was your point?
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