Avenged Sevenfold?

[jkdsteve]

Never listened to these guys really before...someone told me they were kiddy metal....did they ever do anything original?

Listening to 'Hail to the King" and I'm hearing Metallica, GnR....

...I mean, it's not bad but have they always been so 'tribute band' ?

 

[Avi8r2005]

They're pretty hit or miss. Only a handful I songs of theirs I like. I heard Five finger death punch this morning and thought they just sound like a really diluted form of Pantera. Pantera is one of those bands whose music never sounded dated and to this day still stomps all over anything current.

 

[MississippiMetal]

At this point mostly everything that is easily palatable has been done. "Original" music is beginning to sound weird and turn most people off, so anything that's immediately listenable and not an acquired taste is gonna have to derive from what we're familiar with.

 

[squank]

Never listened to these guys really before...someone told me they were kiddy metal....did they ever do anything original?

Listening to 'Hail to the King" and I'm hearing Metallica, GnR....

...I mean, it's not bad but have they always been so 'tribute band' ?

I like them a lot now. I didn't care for them when they first came out, but I like how they've morphed into a solid riff metal band. Not crazy about the singer's voice, but the guitar work makes up for it.

 

[Nails In Your Coffin]

Never listened to these guys really before...someone told me they were kiddy metal....did they ever do anything original?

Listening to 'Hail to the King" and I'm hearing Metallica, GnR....

...I mean, it's not bad but have they always been so 'tribute band' ?

You heard right. No originality whatsoever, and I feel sorry for kids today who are influenced by this garbage.

Robb Flynn of Machine Head congratulated them on their new "Hail to the King" record as being the best cover album he'd ever heard. I came to the same conclusion.

I've never liked them or thought of them as having any real talent, but when you grow up with bands like Iron Maiden, classic Metallica/Megadeth, etc., I guess you tend to demand a lot more. Had Avenged Sevenfold come out in the 80s, they wouldn't have ever made it out of their parents' basements.

 

[neilli]

Had Avenged Sevenfold come out in the 80s, they wouldn't have ever made it out of their parents' basements.

I'm not buying that at all. I'm not a fan of them at all (somehow it all just sounds very insincere to me), but they can play circles around most bands from the 80s, and god knows that era is my total musical foundation.

 

[Nails In Your Coffin]

Had Avenged Sevenfold come out in the 80s, they wouldn't have ever made it out of their parents' basements.

I'm not buying that at all. I'm not a fan of them at all (somehow it all just sounds very insincere to me), but they can play circles around most bands from the 80s, and god knows that era is my total musical foundation.

Neil, I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you on the "play circles around them." Neither of those guys will ever come remotely close to the skills and talents of guys like Jason Becker, Paul Gilbert, Marty Friedman, Yngwie Malmsteen, Warren DiMartini, George Lynch, Nuno Bettencourt, Vito Bratta, Reb Beach, Dave Murray, Adrian Smith, Randy Rhoads, Jake E. Lee, Dave Mustaine, Chris Poland, and I could keep going. Those guys couldn't even get close to C.C. DeVille or Mick Mars, both of whom are underestimated in their own right.

 

[squank]

Had Avenged Sevenfold come out in the 80s, they wouldn't have ever made it out of their parents' basements.

I'm not buying that at all. I'm not a fan of them at all (somehow it all just sounds very insincere to me), but they can play circles around most bands from the 80s, and god knows that era is my total musical foundation.

Neil, I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you on the "play circles around them." Neither of those guys will ever come remotely close to the skills and talents of guys like Jason Becker, Paul Gilbert, Marty Friedman, Yngwie Malmsteen, Warren DiMartini, George Lynch, Nuno Bettencourt, Vito Bratta, Reb Beach, Dave Murray, Adrian Smith, Randy Rhoads, Jake E. Lee, Dave Mustaine, Chris Poland, and I could keep going. Those guys couldn't even get close to C.C. DeVille or Mick Mars, both of whom are underestimated in their own right.

I can see your point with most of those players, but CC DeVille and Mick Mars really aren't in Synyster Gates' league at all for lead playing.

 

[jkdsteve]

Never listened to these guys really before...someone told me they were kiddy metal....did they ever do anything original?

Listening to 'Hail to the King" and I'm hearing Metallica, GnR....

...I mean, it's not bad but have they always been so 'tribute band' ?

I like them a lot now. I didn't care for them when they first came out, but I like how they've morphed into a solid riff metal band. Not crazy about the singer's voice, but the guitar work makes up for it.

I don;t remember liking any of the other stuff that was being raved about - City of Evil (?) but I am enjoying the latest one, it sounds familiar and comfortable...I think like you said, solid riff metal.

 

[155]

their names are annoying as hell...

 

[Nails In Your Coffin]

Had Avenged Sevenfold come out in the 80s, they wouldn't have ever made it out of their parents' basements.

I'm not buying that at all. I'm not a fan of them at all (somehow it all just sounds very insincere to me), but they can play circles around most bands from the 80s, and god knows that era is my total musical foundation.

Neil, I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you on the "play circles around them." Neither of those guys will ever come remotely close to the skills and talents of guys like Jason Becker, Paul Gilbert, Marty Friedman, Yngwie Malmsteen, Warren DiMartini, George Lynch, Nuno Bettencourt, Vito Bratta, Reb Beach, Dave Murray, Adrian Smith, Randy Rhoads, Jake E. Lee, Dave Mustaine, Chris Poland, and I could keep going. Those guys couldn't even get close to C.C. DeVille or Mick Mars, both of whom are underestimated in their own right.

I can see your point with most of those players, but CC DeVille and Mick Mars really aren't in Synyster Gates' league at all for lead playing.

Neilli, PLEASE tell me you're joking. Synyster Gates can't even write a solo worth listening to, let alone play one worth listening to. I've listened to every Avenged Sevenfold record to drop, from their first to their last, and they're so remedial, I just can't listen to more than a few songs at a time. I invite you to take a listen to some of "Syn's" handiwork on YouTube, as there are PLENTY of solos "spotlighting" the "talents" of Synyster Gates.

C.C. Deville and Mick Mars never claimed to be great guitarists, but have you ever heard a solo by either of them that didn't fit into the song they were playing? The odds are, you probably haven't. Both of those guys, while they're not technical wizards, always evoked emotion in their playing, and it came through in their songs. Listen to Crue's "Home Sweet Home" as an example. No, that solo isn't great (simple pentatonic), but damned if it doesn't hit like a ton of bricks. Name a single song Avenged Sevenfold have ever done that even come close to emitting anywhere near as much emotion. While "Home Sweet Home" may be a ballad, that song still hits harder than ANYTHING Avenged Sevenfold have vomited on to any of their records.

 

[squank]

I can see your point with most of those players, but CC DeVille and Mick Mars really aren't in Synyster Gates' league at all for lead playing.

Neilli, PLEASE tell me you're joking. Synyster Gates can't even write a solo worth listening to, let alone play one worth listening to. I've listened to every Avenged Sevenfold record to drop, from their first to their last, and they're so remedial, I just can't listen to more than a few songs at a time. I invite you to take a listen to some of "Syn's" handiwork on YouTube, as there are PLENTY of solos "spotlighting" the "talents" of Synyster Gates.

C.C. Deville and Mick Mars never claimed to be great guitarists, but have you ever heard a solo by either of them that didn't fit into the song they were playing? The odds are, you probably haven't. Both of those guys, while they're not technical wizards, always evoked emotion in their playing, and it came through in their songs. Listen to Crue's "Home Sweet Home" as an example. No, that solo isn't great (simple pentatonic), but damned if it doesn't hit like a ton of bricks. Name a single song Avenged Sevenfold have ever done that even come close to emitting anywhere near as much emotion. While "Home Sweet Home" may be a ballad, that song still hits harder than ANYTHING Avenged Sevenfold have vomited on to any of their records.

Wow, that's an unexpected response. The solo to "Home Sweet Home" is actually below par for Mars. Repetitive and boring. Certainly not hard hitting when I hear it. I'm stunned that's your example of Mars' pinnacle. His solo on "All in the Name of Rock" is a much better example of Mars playing a simple solo that matches the feel and groove of a song.

You love Mars' playing - I get it. But you really don't sound objective here at all.

 

[PBGas]

One thing about Mick Mars, you actually do remember his solos when you hear the song. It's not overly technical but they are memorable and I'm pretty sure that is what he was going for over flash and speed. If you have every heard him play finger style acoustic guitar, you would be surprised.

 

[just42dave]

their best work was the album city of evil and avenged sevenfold beautiful

 

[just42dave]

baddass uberschall tones

 

[just42dave]

perfect bogner snarl

 

[Mailman1971]

First time I heard these guys was Beast and the Harlett. I was drawn at the old school style thrash metal style with some modern flair.
I still listen to a few of their songs. Great band.

 

[just42dave]

Had Avenged Sevenfold come out in the 80s, they wouldn't have ever made it out of their parents' basements.

I'm not buying that at all. I'm not a fan of them at all (somehow it all just sounds very insincere to me), but they can play circles around most bands from the 80s, and god knows that era is my total musical foundation.

Neil, I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you on the "play circles around them." Neither of those guys will ever come remotely close to the skills and talents of guys like Jason Becker, Paul Gilbert, Marty Friedman, Yngwie Malmsteen, Warren DiMartini, George Lynch, Nuno Bettencourt, Vito Bratta, Reb Beach, Dave Murray, Adrian Smith, Randy Rhoads, Jake E. Lee, Dave Mustaine, Chris Poland, and I could keep going. Those guys couldn't even get close to C.C. DeVille or Mick Mars, both of whom are underestimated in their own right.

this fuck... 11 posts and his ass is already the big brain on who is who.. LOLZ!!!!!!! Syn went to Musicians Institute and graduated with honors that's why they sound better after he joined and they were influenced by all the bands you just mentioned.. What a fuktard....Contempt prior to investigation... That's like,, oh forget not waste my time troll!!!!!!

 

[Spaceboy]

They used to be a decent band in their debut CD, then started this whole goth shtick with eyeliner and fog machines, got popular off that album Waking The Fallen. It was alright though despite the dorky imagery. It got airtime on Headbangers Ball and similar shows. Then something happened and they started dressing like Guns N Roses with chain wallets, bandanas, and generally looking as much like douches as possible. They released that awful City of Evil CD and it's only been downhill from there. I can't even listen to their garbage anymore, and the fans are equally unbearable. It's a completely different band compared to those first two albums.

 

[Heritage Softail]

Had Avenged Sevenfold come out in the 80s, they wouldn't have ever made it out of their parents' basements.

I'm not buying that at all. I'm not a fan of them at all (somehow it all just sounds very insincere to me), but they can play circles around most bands from the 80s, and god knows that era is my total musical foundation.

Neil, I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you on the "play circles around them." Neither of those guys will ever come remotely close to the skills and talents of guys like Jason Becker, Paul Gilbert, Marty Friedman, Yngwie Malmsteen, Warren DiMartini, George Lynch, Nuno Bettencourt, Vito Bratta, Reb Beach, Dave Murray, Adrian Smith, Randy Rhoads, Jake E. Lee, Dave Mustaine, Chris Poland, and I could keep going. Those guys couldn't even get close to C.C. DeVille or Mick Mars, both of whom are underestimated in their own right.

I can see your point with most of those players, but CC DeVille and Mick Mars really aren't in Synyster Gates' league at all for lead playing.

Very true. I hate the emo douche femboy look. But they can play, and they have some cool songs. Great riffs, lots of neat lead technique.

It beats the hell out of the rap and other stupid shit kids are playing these days.