Avenged Sevenfold?

[tfridgen]

Actually, I wasn't talking about Gates specifically. And it is what I thought, you aren't a musician. Just some prick behind a keyboard spouting off shit he's heard because he really doesn't know the difference between difficult to play and not..

Cheers!

I realized this after he said that Herman Li couldn't play anything live. I remember reading that on forums and in youtube comments. Someeone probably caught him on an offday, posted a comment and internet poseurs picked it up and ran with it. Anyone who has seen them live would know how good they really are. Seems like Nails is just another internet poseur with limited knowledge of guitar.

 

[RG955TT]

Nails, for a new guy around here you really come off as a real dick. Why not go play somewhere else? Its like joining a club and talking shit about everyone or in general just being an ass. If you now feel unwelcome here because you're a douche bag, well don't let the door hit you in the ass....

 

[mooncobra]

Had Avenged Sevenfold come out in the 80s, they wouldn't have ever made it out of their parents' basements.

I'm not buying that at all. I'm not a fan of them at all (somehow it all just sounds very insincere to me), but they can play circles around most bands from the 80s, and god knows that era is my total musical foundation.

Neil, I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you on the "play circles around them." Neither of those guys will ever come remotely close to the skills and talents of guys like Jason Becker, Paul Gilbert, Marty Friedman, Yngwie Malmsteen, Warren DiMartini, George Lynch, Nuno Bettencourt, Vito Bratta, Reb Beach, Dave Murray, Adrian Smith, Randy Rhoads, Jake E. Lee, Dave Mustaine, Chris Poland, and I could keep going. Those guys couldn't even get close to C.C. DeVille or Mick Mars, both of whom are underestimated in their own right.

I can see your point with most of those players, but CC DeVille and Mick Mars really aren't in Synyster Gates' league at all for lead playing.

Neilli, PLEASE tell me you're joking. Synyster Gates can't even write a solo worth listening to, let alone play one worth listening to. I've listened to every Avenged Sevenfold record to drop, from their first to their last, and they're so remedial, I just can't listen to more than a few songs at a time. I invite you to take a listen to some of "Syn's" handiwork on YouTube, as there are PLENTY of solos "spotlighting" the "talents" of Synyster Gates.

C.C. Deville and Mick Mars never claimed to be great guitarists, but have you ever heard a solo by either of them that didn't fit into the song they were playing? The odds are, you probably haven't. Both of those guys, while they're not technical wizards, always evoked emotion in their playing, and it came through in their songs. Listen to Crue's "Home Sweet Home" as an example. No, that solo isn't great (simple pentatonic), but damned if it doesn't hit like a ton of bricks. Name a single song Avenged Sevenfold have ever done that even come close to emitting anywhere near as much emotion. While "Home Sweet Home" may be a ballad, that song still hits harder than ANYTHING Avenged Sevenfold have vomited on to any of their records.

I personally don't like cc Deville's playing at all. zero feel, and what little I have heard, sounded infantile compared to the other players of the time. I was never in to his band, out of the 80s bands, they were my least favorite.

also, even though I don't like that he calls himself sinister gates, he is a technically proficient guitar player.

 

[Spaceboy]

This thread is actually embarrassing.

 

[Nails In Your Coffin]

Had Avenged Sevenfold come out in the 80s, they wouldn't have ever made it out of their parents' basements.

I'm not buying that at all. I'm not a fan of them at all (somehow it all just sounds very insincere to me), but they can play circles around most bands from the 80s, and god knows that era is my total musical foundation.

Neil, I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you on the "play circles around them." Neither of those guys will ever come remotely close to the skills and talents of guys like Jason Becker, Paul Gilbert, Marty Friedman, Yngwie Malmsteen, Warren DiMartini, George Lynch, Nuno Bettencourt, Vito Bratta, Reb Beach, Dave Murray, Adrian Smith, Randy Rhoads, Jake E. Lee, Dave Mustaine, Chris Poland, and I could keep going. Those guys couldn't even get close to C.C. DeVille or Mick Mars, both of whom are underestimated in their own right.

I can see your point with most of those players, but CC DeVille and Mick Mars really aren't in Synyster Gates' league at all for lead playing.

Neilli, PLEASE tell me you're joking. Synyster Gates can't even write a solo worth listening to, let alone play one worth listening to. I've listened to every Avenged Sevenfold record to drop, from their first to their last, and they're so remedial, I just can't listen to more than a few songs at a time. I invite you to take a listen to some of "Syn's" handiwork on YouTube, as there are PLENTY of solos "spotlighting" the "talents" of Synyster Gates.

C.C. Deville and Mick Mars never claimed to be great guitarists, but have you ever heard a solo by either of them that didn't fit into the song they were playing? The odds are, you probably haven't. Both of those guys, while they're not technical wizards, always evoked emotion in their playing, and it came through in their songs. Listen to Crue's "Home Sweet Home" as an example. No, that solo isn't great (simple pentatonic), but damned if it doesn't hit like a ton of bricks. Name a single song Avenged Sevenfold have ever done that even come close to emitting anywhere near as much emotion. While "Home Sweet Home" may be a ballad, that song still hits harder than ANYTHING Avenged Sevenfold have vomited on to any of their records.

I personally don't like cc Deville's playing at all. zero feel, and what little I have heard, sounded infantile compared to the other players of the time. I was never in to his band, out of the 80s bands, they were my least favorite.

also, even though I don't like that he calls himself sinister gates, he is a technically proficient guitar player.

I, on the other hand, feel just the opposite. I don't find his playing to be remotely creative, and I think the only cool thing about him is his stage name of "Synyster Gates."

CC Deville was never a favorite guitarist of mine, but his solos always sounded good over Poison's songs. I think they have some good songs, but I wouldn't consider myself a Poison fan. Out of the 80s, Stryper, Extreme, Tora Tora, Faster Pussycat, Bang Tango, and Mr. Big were the ones I just couldn't stomach on any level. Nuno Bettencourt is a phenomenal guitarist, but I just do not like his music at all. Quite honestly, I'd probably rather listen to Avenged Sevenfold over the bands mentioned above.

 

[crankyrayhanky]

I'd probably rather listen to Avenged Sevenfold

Crank it up!

 

[Nails In Your Coffin]

I'd probably rather listen to Avenged Sevenfold

Crank it up!

That's just not gonna happen...

The only time I would EVER listen to them is if I had to choose between them and those bands noted in my previous post.

And no, not even then would I crank up Avenged Sevenfold, I'd wanna hear as little of them as possible. Every time I hear one of their songs, I wanna send their parents sympathy cards.

 

[Mailman1971]

Whats new Fellas?