AxeFx - I HOPE I'm missing something

[Anonymous]

I don't care whether people want or like the Axe in the least, however, I guess I'm just not that picky 'cause I just don't get how you can't get a nice tone out of it REAL fast. Hell... there are several PRESETS that sound killer to me for noodling. That sure doesn't require much dialing, eh? In a half hour I was able to get a nice tone that pretty much matched what my PeaceMaker would do how I like it set... I guess if you wanted to do some crazy shit there would be some learning curve, but just to get a killer basic guitar tone seems not much different to me than working with a real tube amp. Especially with the editor... Hell... there are also a ton of killer patches of a variety of different tones on the Axechange if you don't like to tweak... Surely there is something there people could make some minor changes to and love... I dunno... maybe some people are overthinking it? I'm not having much of a problem making it sound good to me...

Steve

I do not disagree with any of the above. There are some great sounds in the Axe FX. I got mine and it just did not compare to my Cornford tonally IMHO. That does not mean that it will be that way for anybody else, just me. I have since gotten a Bogner Ecstasy and it just puts a smile on my face way more than the Axe Fx did. That does not mean the Axe Fx does not have some great tones, nor does it mean it is hard to program. I prefer the Eventide Eclipse effects to the Axe Fx and is what I am currently using, but that thing can be a pain to program. I think some people want to love it, some want to hate it, who cares. It works for you and you are happy that is what matters. It did not work for me and I am happy with my setup. These posts where people just want to stir up nonsense are probably the only individuals not happy with their tone so they have to pi$$ on everyone else's party!!!!

I getcha! I'll tell ya - I like my Eggie Seminar head quite a bit and I'm not about to sell it just because I got an Axe. In fact, I like running the Axe for efx only from the line out of my amp alot of the time. It's funny though - a few nights ago I had some time to crank up my stuff and for some reason the Egg-rig w/Axe effects w/d/w just wasn't doing it for me, even with a few minutes of tweaking. Sounded kinda muffled or something... Anyway, I turned off my amp and dialed up a few random patches I have on my Axe while playing and I was totally inspired. My ears seem to hear different things on different days and what I like also depends on what guitar I grab... I dunno what I'm getting at here really... just a random observation I guess. I'll be back to loving my Egg-rig next time I crank things up...

Like I said, I just don't think it is that hard to get a great tone out of the Axe and I think the only way people can make a decision on whether it is for them or not is to play with one themselves. Judging gear by some random clips or a live performance won't tell you what YOU can get out of it. You have to throw away any preconceived notions and get into it yourself and make a decision if the thing appeals to you in any way...

Steve

 

[Telephant]

. My ears seem to hear different things on different days and what I like also depends on what guitar I grab...

So true...

You guys know how I feel about modellers.. So if I ever swtich to one down the road by all means, punch me in the face.

 

[Bob Savage]

But still, Dan and I both got a laugh out of saying, "I can't wait to go on Rig-Talk tomorrow to bash the Axe-Fx and watch all the fanboys flip out." And guess what? It worked!

Kind of brings me back to junior high and the booger nosed kids that thought it was fun to intentionally annoy others. Not that I'm saying you have a nose full of boogers, I just like to reminisce.

Honestly, it was just disappointing to hear such bad tone coming from such a great guitar player and it was easy to point the finger at the hot product. To each his own I guess.

If this is the first time you've seen/heard a great guitar player that has no idea when it comes to tone, you haven't been around very long. Musical or technical prowess on the guitar doesn't mean the player likes the same sounds as others nor does it mean they can even hear it.

 

[degenaro]

. My ears seem to hear different things on different days and what I like also depends on what guitar I grab...

... punch me in the face.

will do...

 

[Gino]

But still, Dan and I both got a laugh out of saying, "I can't wait to go on Rig-Talk tomorrow to bash the Axe-Fx and watch all the fanboys flip out." And guess what? It worked!

Hey... whatever blows your skirt up... I gotta say though - I haven't seen any "fanboys" flipping out in this thread at all. Just some folks discussing the unit and their experiences...

Steve

48 replies and 750 views without a reply from the original poster? Please tell me you're joking. Ok, maybe "flipping out" isn't the right term. But a pebble was definitely dropped in the pond.

I was at the gig with Dan (original poster) and we, along with the sound guy who is a professional sound engineer, all agreed that this guy's tone was shit. It wasn't the venue or anything like that because we play the same room every month and our rig sounds killer. Can we chalk it up to him not dialing the tone in properly? Most likely. But still, Dan and I both got a laugh out of saying, "I can't wait to go on Rig-Talk tomorrow to bash the Axe-Fx and watch all the fanboys flip out." And guess what? It worked! Honestly, it was just disappointing to hear such bad tone coming from such a great guitar player and it was easy to point the finger at the hot product. To each his own I guess.

Even with Ed and John's clips, who are both amazing musicians that I respect, I still don't like what I've heard out of the Axe-Fx. I'm not looking for any response as to what I'm missing as I don't really care. I'm just sayin'...

And guess what...No one freaked out. if that's the response that you THINK you got from reading everyones reply then i don't know what to tell you.

If any Axe-Fx users could see the forest for the trees they'd see how flooded Rig-Talk is/was a while back with Axe-Fx raves. This was just someone being able to finally see/hear it in person and be less-than-impressed. Calm down.

But still, Dan and I both got a laugh out of saying, "I can't wait to go on Rig-Talk tomorrow to bash the Axe-Fx and watch all the fanboys flip out." And guess what? It worked!

Kind of brings me back to junior high and the booger nosed kids that thought it was fun to intentionally annoy others. Not that I'm saying you have a nose full of boogers, I just like to reminisce.

Oh, I get it. The junior high analogy. Clever. Trolling. I get it. No, my nose isn't full of boogers because I pick it. A lot.

Honestly, it was just disappointing to hear such bad tone coming from such a great guitar player and it was easy to point the finger at the hot product. To each his own I guess.

If this is the first time you've seen/heard a great guitar player that has no idea when it comes to tone, you haven't been around very long. Musical or technical prowess on the guitar doesn't mean the player likes the same sounds as others nor does it mean they can even hear it.

Girls, girls, girls... Everyone needs to relax and realize when stuff should be taken seriously. No, maybe I haven't "been around for very long" (whatever that really means) but we're not talking about some douchebag that can play a million notes a second and is considered "amazing". This guy is well-respected and considered to be one of the premier musicians in the area. That's all. Nobody ever said he had to have great tone, but you'd like to think he's got something close. Jeff, if you're wasting your time by reading this thread, I think you should contact the guitarist in question and get an M4 in his rack.

Again, like I said like 25 posts up, we were unimpressed with his tone, saw an Axe-Fx in his rack and said, "Holy shit it's all the Axe-Fx's fault!!!!11!!!!1ONE!!!" and laughed at it facetiously. Maybe it's a generation gap thing or something was lost in translation through the tubes of the interwebs, I don't know. Back to our regularly scheduled programming...

So, isn't Whitesnake's tone at 1:37 into that one song on that one tour in 1987 un-frigging-believable?!!! What about George Lynch, huh?!! CHARVELLLLLLLLL!!!!



Kiiiiiiiddiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing, ladies. Lighten up...

 

[Gainfreak]

But still, Dan and I both got a laugh out of saying, "I can't wait to go on Rig-Talk tomorrow to bash the Axe-Fx and watch all the fanboys flip out." And guess what? It worked!

Hey... whatever blows your skirt up... I gotta say though - I haven't seen any "fanboys" flipping out in this thread at all. Just some folks discussing the unit and their experiences...

Steve

48 replies and 750 views without a reply from the original poster? Please tell me you're joking. Ok, maybe "flipping out" isn't the right term. But a pebble was definitely dropped in the pond.

I was at the gig with Dan (original poster) and we, along with the sound guy who is a professional sound engineer, all agreed that this guy's tone was shit. It wasn't the venue or anything like that because we play the same room every month and our rig sounds killer. Can we chalk it up to him not dialing the tone in properly? Most likely. But still, Dan and I both got a laugh out of saying, "I can't wait to go on Rig-Talk tomorrow to bash the Axe-Fx and watch all the fanboys flip out." And guess what? It worked! Honestly, it was just disappointing to hear such bad tone coming from such a great guitar player and it was easy to point the finger at the hot product. To each his own I guess.

Even with Ed and John's clips, who are both amazing musicians that I respect, I still don't like what I've heard out of the Axe-Fx. I'm not looking for any response as to what I'm missing as I don't really care. I'm just sayin'...

And guess what...No one freaked out. if that's the response that you THINK you got from reading everyones reply then i don't know what to tell you.

If any Axe-Fx users could see the forest for the trees they'd see how flooded Rig-Talk is/was a while back with Axe-Fx raves. This was just someone being able to finally see/hear it in person and be less-than-impressed. Calm down.

But still, Dan and I both got a laugh out of saying, "I can't wait to go on Rig-Talk tomorrow to bash the Axe-Fx and watch all the fanboys flip out." And guess what? It worked!

Kind of brings me back to junior high and the booger nosed kids that thought it was fun to intentionally annoy others. Not that I'm saying you have a nose full of boogers, I just like to reminisce.

Oh, I get it. The junior high analogy. Clever. Trolling. I get it. No, my nose isn't full of boogers because I pick it. A lot.

Honestly, it was just disappointing to hear such bad tone coming from such a great guitar player and it was easy to point the finger at the hot product. To each his own I guess.

If this is the first time you've seen/heard a great guitar player that has no idea when it comes to tone, you haven't been around very long. Musical or technical prowess on the guitar doesn't mean the player likes the same sounds as others nor does it mean they can even hear it.

Girls, girls, girls... Everyone needs to relax and realize when stuff should be taken seriously. No, maybe I haven't "been around for very long" (whatever that really means) but we're not talking about some douchebag that can play a million notes a second and is considered "amazing". This guy is well-respected and considered to be one of the premier musicians in the area. That's all. Nobody ever said he had to have great tone, but you'd like to think he's got something close. Jeff, if you're wasting your time by reading this thread, I think you should contact the guitarist in question and get an M4 in his rack.

Again, like I said like 25 posts up, we were unimpressed with his tone, saw an Axe-Fx in his rack and said, "Holy shit it's all the Axe-Fx's fault!!!!11!!!!1ONE!!!" and laughed at it facetiously. Maybe it's a generation gap thing or something was lost in translation through the tubes of the interwebs, I don't know. Back to our regularly scheduled programming...

So, isn't Whitesnake's tone at 1:37 into that one song on that one tour in 1987 un-frigging-believable?!!! What about George Lynch, huh?!! CHARVELLLLLLLLL!!!!



Kiiiiiiiddiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing, ladies. Lighten up...

Gino,

No one really has a problem with the original poster or you not liking the Axe-FX....Really. The only thing people were commenting on is when your buddy assumed that it was 100% the Axe-fx's fault when in reality that's 100% false ...Period. I think you are the one who is reading into this a bit to much and regardless of what you might of read on this forum about it, Bringing other threads into this topic is pointless because it's all heresay.

 

[Anonymous]

But still, Dan and I both got a laugh out of saying, "I can't wait to go on Rig-Talk tomorrow to bash the Axe-Fx and watch all the fanboys flip out." And guess what? It worked!

Hey... whatever blows your skirt up... I gotta say though - I haven't seen any "fanboys" flipping out in this thread at all. Just some folks discussing the unit and their experiences...

Steve

48 replies and 750 views without a reply from the original poster? Please tell me you're joking. Ok, maybe "flipping out" isn't the right term. But a pebble was definitely dropped in the pond.

I'm not joking. It is very simple. People discussed what the original poster brought up from their point of view. No one flipped out in the least. The Axe is a a big subject around here - you bring it up and people discuss it. Amazing huh, lady?

So, isn't Whitesnake's tone at 1:37 into that one song on that one tour in 1987 un-frigging-believable?!!! What about George Lynch, huh?!! CHARVELLLLLLLLL!!!!



Kiiiiiiiddiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing, ladies. Lighten up...

Oh My God! That is so FUNNY! I get it - we're old right? Awesome joke, sweetie! Why don't you go high five your other high school friends, m'kay?

Steve

 

[duesentrieb]

Hey Steve, you are on a Mac, right? What kind of midi-interface are you using? I have some problems with 6.10, the editor and my midisport uno (or whatever that POS is called )

Thanks for your suggestions - and how's the amp?

 

[Gino]

 

[Megadeth Man]

I've got little experience with modelling amps. I hate tweaking. For me personally, I can only see the AxeFx as being a whole world of pain.

 

[duesentrieb]

I've got little experience with modelling amps. I hate tweaking. For me personally, I can only see the AxeFx as being a whole world of pain.

With the editor (and a working midi interface - lol) its fun.

 

[Megadeth Man]

I've got little experience with modelling amps. I hate tweaking. For me personally, I can only see the AxeFx as being a whole world of pain.

With the editor (and a working midi interface - lol) its fun.

I hate tweaking even a simple amp, If I suddenly start feeling really drained and shitty I know it's becuase I've got sucked in to tweaking an amp.

I can only really tweak an amp accurately when I first start it up and that'll be just a slight change of gain or an eq to adjust for volume/location. Pretty soon after that my ears lose all sense of reality.

 

[duesentrieb]

Makes me wonder how you can manage to type on a puter-keyboard then

 

[stephen sawall]

Location: Royal Oak, MI

This explains everything.

The tone in that part of world is all wrong.
Nothing sounds good there.

I know ~ I lived in Mt Clemens for years.
Grasshit and Wellington Crescent.
Not under the bridge.

My point is everyone hears things different.
Me and the girl have a talk and the next day I wonder if I was even there ?

 

[Megadeth Man]

Makes me wonder how you can manage to type on a puter-keyboard then

One of my finest achievements.

How long would you say it takes you to come up with a patch you'd keep and use as a main tone on the AxeFX?

 

[timbo]

I love my Ultra. In July I will have been in "the" house band at a particular venue for two years. I get nothing but comments on how clean and powerful my tone is. Otherwise the AxeFx would be gone in a heartbeat.

With the AxeFx you have to know what the fuck your doing. Your tone is going to vary with FRFR, poweramp and guitar cab, splitting the signal to the board over the PA or going direct for recording.

I know some doctors around here at work that are friggin geniuses but they couldn't do a simple Excel spreadsheet if they tried. Get my drift?

Nobody HAS to drink the Kool-aide. I say if the AxeFx is too complicated go old skool with an amp and those cute colored pedals.

 

[duesentrieb]

Makes me wonder how you can manage to type on a puter-keyboard then

One of my finest achievements.

How long would you say it takes you to come up with a patch you'd keep and use as a main tone on the AxeFX?

With the editor 2-3 minutes. Without tons of fx (normally I have a pedal in front, many models need a boost IMO), just drv, amp, cab and some delay.

 

[loudgtr]

Both sides have given me some good laughs today!! Thanks guys!!

With the way the Trans Siberiean Orchestra (sp?...) sound live; their 2 guitarists playing through Line6 PodXT Pro's (they were the 2 times I saw them) and sounding Great, I'd have to say it's user error on the "great player dude" in the original post. I'm sure the Axe fx sounds as good or better than the Pod XT, so.....

I love my Line6 Flextone II XL big time!! I've had it for years,since new and it's not going anywhere, used it live "straight-in" and miced; sounded HUGE and got lots of positive comments.

I also love my Soldano SLO 100 big time!!

It's all good!!

 

[Anonymous]

When you run out of "clever" things to say, this is always a "go to" image. Well done, junior! You're as predictable as I expected.

Shouldn't you be running off to read what Fall Out Boy is wearing today so you can prepare for your next gig?

Steve

 

[Anonymous]

Hey Steve, you are on a Mac, right? What kind of midi-interface are you using? I have some problems with 6.10, the editor and my midisport uno (or whatever that POS is called )

Thanks for your suggestions - and how's the amp?

I'm using the OLD emagic amt8 with my mac and it works like a charm, however, I'll admit, I'm still on 6.07...

Amp is coming along nicely - I'll post a status update with more pictures in a couple days...

Steve