Bad trade: advice?

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Steinmetzify

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Let me start off by saying it's not here....joined a different forum a few weeks back on the advice of an acquaintance, just for more metal.

Was looking through the Classifieds, found a pedal I wanted, offered seller another pedal in trade, and he agreed. I shipped the next day and went on about my week.....dude got it, said he really liked it, and that was it. Sent him a PM asking about the one he was supposed to ship, and it took a minute, but he replied asking for my address, even though it was in the PM where we made the deal and I can prove it. Said that the pedal I was supposed to receive would ship 7/31-8/1.....nothing. He's had my address since 7/30 and I can prove that one too. Now, even though he logs onto the forum, he doesn't reply to PMs. This has been three weeks going on.

Dude has had my pedal since 8/3 and gave me a couple of excuses as to why he hasn't shipped. I get that sometimes things get in the way. I do...I've been guilty of not being able to ship exactly when I said I would, but I always hit up my buyer and tell him, stay in contact, just so everything is clear and no one is left doing what I'm doing, which is wondering "why the hell would someone try to rip off somebody else over the internet for a lousy $30 pedal?" I've done deals for thousands of dollars on RigTalk, SSO, MLP, the Dean Forum, have iTrader refs and 100% on eBay.....I've never actually had a bad deal on a forum, until now....I can't imagine why anyone would, when all anyone has to do is start a thread, say the person's name and contact info, and the person is screwed for life as far as internet gear deals go.

I did some diligence when it came to this place because I'm new, and dude had a lot of decent references so I went for it. Everybody seemed to have good dealings with him. I don't know if it's because I'm new, or what.

At this point, I don't know what the move is....he's an OG here and I'm a FNG. I don't want to out anyone, and at this point I want either the deal we agreed on, or I want my pedal back.

What would you guys suggest? Based on post count and rep, this would be like a guy here with 4 posts calling out SteveK for a $30 pedal :lol: :LOL:

Burn him? Post his name/address/username everywhere? I posted this exact thing over there, but it's not a hugely busy site and no one has even looked at it yet, I don't think. I just don't want anyone else dealing with this guy for more expensive items.....he sells guitars and amps too.

Suggestions welcome.
 
I get the whole 'long time member' thing and how we view some of these guys like Yoda but what's fair is fair.

I don't give a shit who you are or what your credentials are. If someone is burning someone, everyone needs to know.

Would you want to do a deal with someone who has burned some guys but because he/she has a web presence everything should be hush hush?
 
Give him the option to choose his fate... PM him there and say you have such and such time to respond to this issue. If he fails to respond post his shit. Sounds like a DB to me. Hope it's not a guy with the C_M initials. I got burned ONCE by some asshat in Florida for an $80 dollar drum machine. I sent the cops to his house for internet fraud. I'm in NY and the cop was from NY. It was pretty fun. He talked to me over the phone while going through said asshats shit bedroom studio. Never got my drum machine but it was fun to have a 30+ year old man living with mommy and Daddy try and explain why the cops were in his bedroom for internet fraud! HAHA
 
Contact him again asking to ship or what's the holdup,
Then burn with fire!!
 
To date I've been burned for $440 (peanuts compared to some I realize). I don't screw people on deals, and I hate it when it happens to me (or any honest buyer/seller for that matter).

Even though I have zero tolerance for this stuff, it is the internet and with people dealing hundreds of miles apart, deals are bound to go bad.

Give him one last chance then burn him. The guy has had more than a reasonable amount of time to do the right thing.
 
I posted first thing I did here, and was immediately contacted by a mod....he thanked me for not outing the dude in the post, and said he'd do what he could to get it handled......then got a grip of PMs/responses to the thread asking who the guy was, saying "we don't play like that here, etc...".

Hopefully something gets done......I quit a long time forum that I really enjoyed awhile back because a really respected member was burning people, and the forum wouldn't allow threads about it. When he ripped off a friend of mine, I was done. That dude is all over the forums except here and every single time I see someone about to deal with him, I warn them off.

RESISTANCE IS USELESS!
 
Steinmetzify":3fdqemxj said:
Hopefully something gets done......I quit a long time forum that I really enjoyed awhile back because a really respected member was burning people, and the forum wouldn't allow threads about it. When he ripped off a friend of mine, I was done. That dude is all over the forums except here and every single time I see someone about to deal with him, I warn them off.

RESISTANCE IS USELESS!


Post it here. Most of us are on several forums and would like to know.
 
Posts like this should be avoided until the poster is ready to call out the other party. If you feel the need to make your buying/selling issues public, then be prepared to go all in.
 
rupe":4lq9lksg said:
Posts like this should be avoided until the poster is ready to call out the other party. If you feel the need to make your buying/selling issues public, then be prepared to go all in.

Oh I'm ready.....I just felt like I wanted to give dude one more chance to make it right. After this all bets are off and I'm gonna burn him on every single forum I'm a member of. :rock:
 
Shark Diver":2fxyrmxl said:
Post it here. Most of us are on several forums and would like to know.

The guy's name is Northwinds on all the forums. Avoid him at all costs, everywhere....he's on here too but doesn't post or visit.....check his username for the Cobra thread with the issues 'he didn't know about before shipping'.
 
The one I started the thread about was on metalguitarist.org
 
Steinmetzify":csbd5ypw said:
The one I started the thread about was on metalguitarist.org
...well there's your problem :lol: :LOL:
but srsly, that really sucks.
Call him out and let the mods know in any case. OG or not shouldn't matter.
 
xzyryabx":y6qgjb0e said:
Steinmetzify":y6qgjb0e said:
The one I started the thread about was on metalguitarist.org
...well there's your problem :lol: :LOL:
but srsly, that really sucks.
Call him out and let the mods know in any case. OG or not shouldn't matter.

Is it a known thing about that place? I've never heard that before. Mods got in touch with me and said they'd have a word with him.....dude PMs me saying it's going out today. Here's hoping. :gethim:
 
Post counts do not = respect to me.

I'd PM the guy your intentions and if you're not happy with his response you call him out publically. There are two sides to every story so the guy whoever it is should come tell his side of the story.

I personally don't beat around the bush, if I feel I'm being dicked with, wronged in any shape or form anyone I'm call em out and one warning...whether I get a response or not.
 
Owner's response to the thread, after getting the story from me in PM:

'This had better get taken care of. One thing that makes MG better than most other forums is that our core members don't do shit like this.

Steinmetzify - I appreciate you not naming names.

Dude Who Needs To Ship This Guy His Fucking Pedal: Ship him his fucking pedal, and stop being a cunt. We're better than this, so stop making us look like assholes. If he PMs me saying it's all good, this thread goes away and that's the end of it. If it's still not resolved a week from now, your account here is gone.

There's nothing worse than screwing a fellow guitar player on music gear. Don't be that guy, make this right.'


Got a PM from dude this morning saying he shipped it out priority this morning and threw in a patch cable, trem stop and a humbucker from his LP for my trouble....see what shows up.

Just don't understand what possesses people to try and rip people off for $30......was I just supposed to quietly fade into the distance and not say anything? :lol: :LOL:
 
Unacceptable, IMO, and I would never deal with someone that had a story like that. Even guys that I personally know and would have trusted have been down this road of not shipping out gear, and I wont ever deal with them again. He's had 3 full weeks. No reason it shouldnt have gone out within the week that you guys arranged the deal. The post office makes it EXTREMELY easy, especially with little things like pedals. You can even order the fucking priority boxes online, they come to your house, you package it up and leave it in front of your door and request a free pickup from USPS online...they pick it up. You dont even have to leave your fucking house. No excuse. Fuck that guy.
 
Steinmetzify":2z2ncayc said:
xzyryabx":2z2ncayc said:
Steinmetzify":2z2ncayc said:
The one I started the thread about was on metalguitarist.org
...well there's your problem :lol: :LOL:
but srsly, that really sucks.
Call him out and let the mods know in any case. OG or not shouldn't matter.

Is it a known thing about that place? I've never heard that before.

no, not that i've heard at least.
was actually commenting on the fat that it was a metal forum; i've become jaded by the fact that the music I love is unfortunately dominated by a lot of younger kids (and child-men)...many of whom have not yet learned to tell their assholes from their elbows yet and try to pull shit like this.

Glad the mods/owner reponded the way they did, hope the package really shows up!
 
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