Behind the nut string bends and staying in tune

[Inearthed]

a la Ozzy Shot in the Dark beginning

What's the trick for getting the strings to return to proper pitch after doing this? I don't have this problem on the lower strings (Iron Man introduction, for example) but when trying stuff on the 2nd or 3rd string (Shot in the Dark intro) it always screws up the tuning a ton on those strings. Is the trick just loading the nut up with a ton of graphite and making sure it is cut appropriately for your string gauge?

 

[sytharnia1560]

yeah you have to stop any sticking at the nut. Changing the string angle can help, the less angle the better

 

[Riggins1966]

what kind of guitar? In my experience Gibson angled headstocks make it more prone to go out, while fender straight headstocks don't give me any trouble at all. But the nuts still have to be cut correctly and lubed up.

 

[cardinal]

Also, a gentile tug on the strings can help. After the behind-the-nut bend, use your free fingers in your picking hand to lift/pull those strings up and kinda toward the bridge. That's my habit after a big dive with a non-locking trem, also.

 

[nevusofota]

Make sure that each string wrap around the post is even. Also, strings have to be stretched behind the nut, not just in front.

 

[Bob Savage]

Ear wax on the nut.

 

[SavageRiffer]

Nut files and nut lube. What string gauge are you using and what model guitar is it? What strings came with the guitar from the factory. If it was setup for .09-.042 gauge strings from the factory, but you're using .10 gauge strings, then you need to file the nut for 10's. Also lube the trem saddles.

 

[Bob Savage]

Nut files and nut lube. What string gauge are you using and what model guitar is it? What strings came with the guitar from the factory. If it was setup for .09-.042 gauge strings from the factory, but you're using .10 gauge strings, then you need to file the nut for 10's. Also lube the trem saddles.

Wait... the guitar he's doing this with has a trem? If it's floating even just a little bit then bending behind the nut should be unnecessary.

 

[SavageRiffer]

Nut files and nut lube. What string gauge are you using and what model guitar is it? What strings came with the guitar from the factory. If it was setup for .09-.042 gauge strings from the factory, but you're using .10 gauge strings, then you need to file the nut for 10's. Also lube the trem saddles.

Wait... the guitar he's doing this with has a trem? If it's floating even just a little bit then bending behind the nut should be unnecessary.

Even if it doesn't have a floating trem, 2-point trem, vintage trem, 6-hole trem, or whatever, it would help to lube the saddles don't you think? My bad, I should have been specific and said "bridge" so semantic pricks don't get confused.

 

[Bob Savage]

Even if it doesn't have a floating trem, 2-point trem, vintage trem, 6-hole trem, or whatever, it would help to lube the saddles don't you think? My bad, I should have been specific and said "bridge" so semantic pricks don't get confused.

Semantic pricks?

 

[reluctantsadist]

Nut files and nut lube. What string gauge are you using and what model guitar is it? What strings came with the guitar from the factory. If it was setup for .09-.042 gauge strings from the factory, but you're using .10 gauge strings, then you need to file the nut for 10's. Also lube the trem saddles.

Wait... the guitar he's doing this with has a trem? If it's floating even just a little bit then bending behind the nut should be unnecessary.

Even if it doesn't have a floating trem, 2-point trem, vintage trem, 6-hole trem, or whatever, it would help to lube the saddles don't you think? My bad, I should have been specific and said "bridge" so semantic pricks don't get confused.

Nice response. Pretty thin skinned response to a harmless comment. Keep up the good work.

 

[Inearthed]

Thanks for the guidance, it is set for 10's and running 10's but it couldn't hurt to do a little check up on the nut and also treat it with some graphite. Luckily I have plenty of ear wax as well.

Strings are going about as straight as they can to the nut on the guitar (Schecter).

Also never even occurred to me to stretch the strings above the nut, definitely need to do that.

 

[Bob Savage]

Luckily I have plenty of ear wax as well.

 

[SavageRiffer]

Nut files and nut lube. What string gauge are you using and what model guitar is it? What strings came with the guitar from the factory. If it was setup for .09-.042 gauge strings from the factory, but you're using .10 gauge strings, then you need to file the nut for 10's. Also lube the trem saddles.

Wait... the guitar he's doing this with has a trem? If it's floating even just a little bit then bending behind the nut should be unnecessary.

Even if it doesn't have a floating trem, 2-point trem, vintage trem, 6-hole trem, or whatever, it would help to lube the saddles don't you think? My bad, I should have been specific and said "bridge" so semantic pricks don't get confused.

Nice response. Pretty thin skinned response to a harmless comment. Keep up the good work.

It would otherwise be harmless if he weren't routinely passive-aggressive.

 

[Ventura]

what kind of guitar? In my experience Gibson angled headstocks make it more prone to go out, while fender straight headstocks don't give me any trouble at all. But the nuts still have to be cut correctly and lubed up.

Boom

 

[Bob Savage]

It would otherwise be harmless if he weren't routinely passive-aggressive.

It was an honest question based upon the assumption that you understand the difference between a trem and a fixed bridge.

How's this for passive aggressive... learn to use the right terminology or continue to appear a fool.

 

[Ventura]

It would otherwise be harmless if he weren't routinely passive-aggressive.

It was an honest question based upon the assumption that you understand the difference between a trem and a fixed bridge.

How's this for passive aggressive... learn to use the right terminology or continue to appear a fool.

Bob's not a shit disturber. He's good people.

/end

 

[SavageRiffer]

It would otherwise be harmless if he weren't routinely passive-aggressive.

It was an honest question based upon the assumption that you understand the difference between a trem and a fixed bridge.

How's this for passive aggressive... learn to use the right terminology or continue to appear a fool.

Sorry Ventura, I don't want to get sucked into one of these little exchanges, but I have to respond. Bob, you are the one who "appears a fool" since you can't deduct that it was the bridge that I was talking about. Whether it was a fixed bridge, tremolo bridge, or tailpiece, they all represent the same part of the guitar where it meets one end of the strings. Is the a tremolo not also referred to as a bridge? If not, then please direct me to the authoritative source which defines it specifically. I wouldn't know how to be passive-aggressive since that's a trait more common in women, but you seem to carry that trait very well.

 

[stratjacket]

Whether you're bending the string behind nut or having tuning issues or even if there is no issues, I like the idea of having oil on the nut (that just sounds creepy). I forgot what I used, but I think people have good success with this:

https://www.amazon.com/Big-Bends-Nutsauce-Guitar-Lubricant/dp/B0002GZV9M

 

[LP Freak]

It would otherwise be harmless if he weren't routinely passive-aggressive.

It was an honest question based upon the assumption that you understand the difference between a trem and a fixed bridge.

How's this for passive aggressive... learn to use the right terminology or continue to appear a fool.

Bob's not a shit disturber. He's good people.

/end

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