Exo-metal
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Does the axefx III based on everything except the modeling still rein against your pick for the finest hardware made?
Rackman
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I really like eventide H series and Eclipses, but in terms of functionality you have to do Vsig to get close with an H8000 or Eclipse to what an Axe III can do. H9000 is more capable on paper but I have no time with one. I would guess that's the "finest hardware" out there.
But with 1 Eclipse (or 2 if it's crazy) and Vsig I can do what I need to do.
But with 1 Eclipse (or 2 if it's crazy) and Vsig I can do what I need to do.
Exo-metal
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I take it a Vsig isn't hardware, no idea what that is...
Rackman
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Vsig is the Eventide algorithm editor. It lets you make new algorithms from the primitives of synthesis (LFOs, delay lines etc.) plus various sub-algorithm blocks that eventide provides like shifters. Importantly with the less powerful pre-9000 Eventides it lets you cram a lot more in one algo than what's in the factory ones, especially if you're running in mono (which I do but obviously lots of people run in stereo). So without Vsig on an Eclipse you have the choice of 2x canned algos without crossfade, or 1x with. If you use the vsig editor, you can generally get 2-3 major FX and crossfade.
You can also just get some awesome FX that can't be achieved by editing presets if you're good at synthesis.
The H9000 has Vsig as well but less need since it can run a lot more canned algos at once.
You can also just get some awesome FX that can't be achieved by editing presets if you're good at synthesis.
The H9000 has Vsig as well but less need since it can run a lot more canned algos at once.
Exo-metal
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So far the only vote against the axe is the eventide h9000.
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CoreyW
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Are you looking for an all in 1 system? Or just the effects? If you look at everything available in the Axe FX3, its hard to find anything that beats it. If you are looking for just the effects, the VP4 may be of interest.
Exo-metal
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I think we alI are looking for a all in one yes. I want the most options for my money. I like the idea of the axefx III for not only the fx but it can also be used as an interface and possibly more? What other unit that is rackmounted can step into that arena?
rsm
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If you want rack, and power, I'd go with the Axe-FX III MkII. That's what I'd buy, even over Eventide....unless they released a new Eclipse maybe.
If you're just using this for effects, the Axe-FX III MkII will be able to run very complex effects chains vs nearly every other modeler. IMO.
There are cheaper options, like Helix, but that's a dead end now that the Stadium series is out. Helix has a rack unit; which isn't in the Stadium series so far.
I'm using my tube amps or computer plugins mostly these days. A future next generation Axe-FX IV could change my mind tho' I had and sold my FM9 MkII Turbo because I wasn't using it, and plan to sell my Helix Floor at some point since I'm not using it.
If you're just using this for effects, the Axe-FX III MkII will be able to run very complex effects chains vs nearly every other modeler. IMO.
There are cheaper options, like Helix, but that's a dead end now that the Stadium series is out. Helix has a rack unit; which isn't in the Stadium series so far.
I'm using my tube amps or computer plugins mostly these days. A future next generation Axe-FX IV could change my mind tho' I had and sold my FM9 MkII Turbo because I wasn't using it, and plan to sell my Helix Floor at some point since I'm not using it.
Exo-metal
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Rackman
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The H9000 has maybe the best A/D conversion & interface capability in the industry. It's is actually the gearspace loopback null champion right now meaning that if you connect an output to an input and play something and record back in it, it's more similar to what you played than any other interface would be. It stomps a bunch of mastering ADC/DAC systems that cost far more.
That level of loopback null is a remarkable achievement by itself, made doubly remarkable by being a relatively cheap unit (compared to mastering A/D units) and triply remarkable because that unit isn't even an A/D unit as its primary purpose. Someone at Eventide hit it out of the park on the analog and clock design on the H9000.
https://gearspace.com/board/gear-sh...ng-ad-da-loops-means-audio-diffmaker-110.html
Exo-metal
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Atm my greatest regret regarding gear is ever selling my Eventide H3000. The cost of replacing it is unfathomable.
saxxamafone
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I went from axefx over to eventide eclipse and lexicon
Axefx has more versatility and is more flexible and potentially easier to use. But the eventide and lexicon has the magic sauce when it comes to sound IMO.
Axefx was almost too perfect and clean that it had no coloration or character like the eventide and lexicon units have
Axefx has more versatility and is more flexible and potentially easier to use. But the eventide and lexicon has the magic sauce when it comes to sound IMO.
Axefx was almost too perfect and clean that it had no coloration or character like the eventide and lexicon units have
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