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I'm looking for the best axe fx power amp for the money
I mostly play metal music ala slayer
I' currently using the return of my splawn nitro kt88 as power amp but i'd like a whole rack setup ...

Matrix gt1000fx ? Vht 2-50-2 ? Mesa 2:50 ? Cheap peavey ?
Cheaper one ?
 
I use a ART SLA-2 for a W/D set up with my main amp. If you want cheap and light they are great. SLA series runs about $250-400 bucks new, depending on the model. I found a used one for $170 at a music store. If you got the bucks and don't mind the weight I would get a tube VHT or ENGL :rock:

You can pick up MosValves on the eBay for cheap too.
 
I would get the matrix or VHt/Mesa In that order. When I owned an ultra I didn't care for the sound of the sla2. If you we're going to go cheaper I would go for he rock from velocity.
 
Sounds like money's no object if you're considering VHT and Matrix...
With no budget, going into a guitar cab I'd go with a tube power amp: VHT or Mesa (if you want more coloring from the power amp).
For an FRFR system I'd probably go with the Matrix.

That said, I run a ghetto hybrid SS amp with mine (into a guitar cab) and am perfectly happy, but I write the patches specifically for that setup and I do an EQ block before the power amp on every patch, it's pretty easy and awesome. But I think YOU should buy a VHT. :lol: :LOL:

Also FWIW, if my power amp broke, I would probably get a Rocktron Velocity 300 or used MOSValve.
 
If i go for cheap mosvalve or rocktron seem to be good
Otherwise it's vht or engl ?

There s a mesa 2:50 for sale locally 700$
I might be tempted too
Any opinion ?
 
I compared the Matrix GT1000 to the Fryette 2/50/2. I ended up keeping the Matrix. I could get the Matrix to sound pretty much the same as it sounded through the Fryette. The Fryette is a little easier to dial in since you have the presence/depth controls for fine tweaks though. But since I was indifferent based on sound, I sent the Fryette back as there was not sense dealing with tubes at that point.
 
mhenson42":28n5456d said:
I compared the Matrix GT1000 to the Fryette 2/50/2. I ended up keeping the Matrix. I could get the Matrix to sound pretty much the same as it sounded through the Fryette. The Fryette is a little easier to dial in since you have the presence/depth controls for fine tweaks though. But since I was indifferent based on sound, I sent the Fryette back as there was not sense dealing with tubes at that point.

Do you get the same Punch and feel with the matrix vs the fryette ?
even at high volume?
 
I've got a 2/90/2 - ridiculous headroom.

Seems the fact that cats go digital on the front end, they go full hog with the digital SS back end. Natural progression. But since I bought the 2/90/2 to run my Ultra, I wasn't going to buy into the fad of SS/all digital. I get it - you can if you want a 20 pound rig you can haul anywhere you want; but since I had the mackdaddy of poweramps already, and it offers GOBS of headroom (c'mon, 100W a side!?!?!?), it does me fine.

YMMV.
 
Ventura":2v2e2o4e said:
I've got a 2/90/2 - ridiculous headroom.

Seems the fact that cats go digital on the front end, they go full hog with the digital SS back end. Natural progression. But since I bought the 2/90/2 to run my Ultra, I wasn't going to buy into the fad of SS/all digital. I get it - you can if you want a 20 pound rig you can haul anywhere you want; but since I had the mackdaddy of poweramps already, and it offers GOBS of headroom (c'mon, 100W a side!?!?!?), it does me fine.

YMMV.
Simul 2:90 here - similarly, ridiculous amount of headroom. Arena loud. Can sterilize woodland creatures at 50 paces.

My rig is ghetto, though. I run an Eleven Rack instead of the Axe :D
 
I began my AxeFX rig with an ART SLA-2. Then tried a Rocktron Velocity 300, ended up sending it back and keeping the SLA-2. Later, I tried a Mesa 2:100, but it had a VERY loud fan and didn't sound all that much better than the SLA-2 to me, so once again, I sent it back and kept the SLA-2.

About a year ago, I tried a Carvin TS100 all-tube poweramp and it totally crushed the SLA-2. Been very happy with the Carvin ever since and highly recommend it when paired with an AxeFX.

http://www.carvinguitars.com/products/TS100
 
Was deeply involved in the GT800FX project. This was after using the ART SLA/ which I found sounding to harsh. My opinion on the axe-fx is after using it for more then two years is that it live will never sound as the real deal. I repeat never! The sound is different and it behaves more hifies. From that perspective there is for me no use for a tube amp in the chain. But if you like it then use it, simple.

So live: use the real stuff and for effects the axe-fx
Recordings: axe-fx or Kemper
 
DADA":20nugn8l said:
Was deeply involved in the GT800FX project. This was after using the ART SLA/ which I found sounding to harsh. My opinion on the axe-fx is after using it for more then two years is that it live will never sound as the real deal. I repeat never! The sound is different and it behaves more hifies. From that perspective there is for me no use for a tube amp in the chain. But if you like it then use it, simple.

So live: use the real stuff and for effects the axe-fx
Recordings: axe-fx or Kemper

I hope no FAS boys are watching this thread. :gethim:


For the amp, I'd go VHT
 
Skip the power amp and cabs altogether. Go direct....this is where the A2 shines.
 
Here a quote of another, recently former, long time serious deep dialing axe-fx user.

nikki-k » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:36 am
90% there? I suppose somebody could come up with some objective manner of determining that. For me, it comes down to a very simple question: does it work for me? I could play percentage games I suppose. But, IME, if something is not "it" for me.. not "the it," but rather "an it"... it can be worth spending time figuring out why (not), and trying to resolve those issues. In fact, I have done so with the Axe II, and after nearly a year, it is getting sold.

If someone wants a moon rock, a copy of one.. even one that is 99% compositionally similar (identical for "believers").. is still not a moon rock. A kit car Ferrari on a Volkswagen frame is not an actual Ferrari. However, in the process of building a Ferrari-like vehicle oneself, they could produce something they love as much, if not more. I can absolutely see using something like the Axe to create "amps" that do not exist in "real form." For me, even that is (90%) improbable, as the Axe has inherent flaws that I am unable to ignore enough to even use the unit for more than an hour or so without wanting to smash it.

The Axe, like any modeler/profiler, is a compromise. There is one circumstance in which it is not, and that is when the user lets go of trying to emulate and instead innovates. Then there is no comparison of percentages; then the gear stands on its own. When an artist opts for an Axe over a rack (or two) full of hand-picked gear, it is typically compromise. And most of the time, it is what someone determines to be their best choice of compromise. There are a few owning the idea of eschewing amps, but the bulk of purchasers/users still appears to be (to me at least) those making a compromise. I do not, for instance, see people touring with an Orville, 1210, 2290, a drawer of pedals, and an Axe.

The Axe has parameters that allow sculpting, but some questions as to the actual analog of those functions... well, IME questions in those areas end in vague, semantics laden run-arounds, claims of "proprietary information," and/or derision. In person, I can pick the Axe 100% of the time. Not 90%, nor even 99.9%. On actual tape... no digital recording.. I can also pick it, sans effects.

Oh- plus, with a tube amp I can do something fun; I can swap tubes. The Axe has no tubes to swap, virtual or otherwise. Cloud that with claims of one tube being a simple filter away from being another, or that such swaps can be equaled if not bested through manipulation of "parameters," and I am unable to do much more than chuckle just a tad anymore. And Tone Matching, IME, is different than Kemper profiling, and with both, it is STILL... not a real moon rock. Even dead, Neil Armstrong can tell too. (RIP).
 
DADA":fxtq1mfz said:
Here a quote of another, recently former, long time serious deep dialing axe-fx user.


You're hilarious man. Two years now?
 
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