Best way to run two amps at the same time ?

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I've never ran two amps at the same time.
I have a 5150 III Stealth and a Bogner Uberschall Twin Jet that I want to run at the same time...

What is the best way? Some sort of ABY switch ? Some sort of stereo pedal infront of both amps?

Let me know....the Twin Jet should be here later in the week and I want to be ready to make half the houses around me crumble to the ground....LOL
 
Lehle pedals are pretty good. Stay away from the Morley ABY.
 
I run a Voodoo Labs amp selector. I can run 4 amps at one time. One is a Twin Jet.

I would love to hear a TJ and Stealth running together
 
Please check into this pedal. American Music Supply has them for 125.00 right now plus free shipping.
Decibel Eleven Split Personality Amp Switcher Pedal. The reason I got this is because it has midi. There is a video on YouTube on it.
I am running a 5150III Stealth and a Baron Custom amps K88/MII together. Here are a few more to check into.

Radial Twin City Bones ABY Amp Switcher Pedal A B Y - 129.00-159.00 check ebay
Radial Engineering Bigshot ABY- Best bang for your buck - 89.99 new. Can find them used for alittle less but not much then new NO LED's
RjM Music Y Not - factory direct - 229.00
Lehle Little Dual Amp Switcher- 229.99
 
Some effect pedals such as reverbs have two outputs. I was just goofing around with some stereo ambient type stuff.
 
DannyM":19wuhb3k said:
I've never ran two amps at the same time.
I have a 5150 III Stealth and a Bogner Uberschall Twin Jet that I want to run at the same time...

What is the best way? Some sort of ABY switch ? Some sort of stereo pedal infront of both amps?

Let me know....the Twin Jet should be here later in the week and I want to be ready to make half the houses around me crumble to the ground....LOL


Whats your plan here? Are you trying to build a true stereo rig, or do you want to just hook the two amps together because that sounds like fun? If it's the first, then just get the cheapest option you can and split your signal. If you want to build a real, permanent stereo rig than give us some more details on what the rig will consist of and we can give you some ideas on what you do, based on your gear plans.
 
RJF":3qflomqn said:
DannyM":3qflomqn said:
I've never ran two amps at the same time.
I have a 5150 III Stealth and a Bogner Uberschall Twin Jet that I want to run at the same time...

What is the best way? Some sort of ABY switch ? Some sort of stereo pedal infront of both amps?

Let me know....the Twin Jet should be here later in the week and I want to be ready to make half the houses around me crumble to the ground....LOL


Whats your plan here? Are you trying to build a true stereo rig, or do you want to just hook the two amps together because that sounds like fun? If it's the first, then just get the cheapest option you can and split your signal. If you want to build a real, permanent stereo rig than give us some more details on what the rig will consist of and we can give you some ideas on what you do, based on your gear plans.


I just want to run the Stealth and Twin Jet at the same time. The stealth has the matching 4x12 as does the Uber Twin Jet. I'm not really looking for true "stereo" wet/dry or anything....i just want those two monster amps to shake the walls in my jam room simultaneously. The stealth has some great upper mids and the uber has the menacing lower mid voicing so it seems like a good/fun idea to run them at the same time.
 
DannyM":vygg99va said:
RJF":vygg99va said:
DannyM":vygg99va said:
I've never ran two amps at the same time.
I have a 5150 III Stealth and a Bogner Uberschall Twin Jet that I want to run at the same time...

What is the best way? Some sort of ABY switch ? Some sort of stereo pedal infront of both amps?

Let me know....the Twin Jet should be here later in the week and I want to be ready to make half the houses around me crumble to the ground....LOL


Whats your plan here? Are you trying to build a true stereo rig, or do you want to just hook the two amps together because that sounds like fun? If it's the first, then just get the cheapest option you can and split your signal. If you want to build a real, permanent stereo rig than give us some more details on what the rig will consist of and we can give you some ideas on what you do, based on your gear plans.


I just want to run the Stealth and Twin Jet at the same time. The stealth has the matching 4x12 as does the Uber Twin Jet. I'm not really looking for true "stereo" wet/dry or anything....i just want those two monster amps to shake the walls in my jam room simultaneously. The stealth has some great upper mids and the uber has the menacing lower mid voicing so it seems like a good/fun idea to run them at the same time.
I would just go buy a cheap Morley ABY or something for like $40.
 
If you have a stereo pedal in one of your amps effects loops then run the second output of that pedal into the return of your second amps loop. It'll be real stereo but will have the same preamp as the first amp while using the second amps power amp. Sounds super cool with my BE100 and 20th Shiva. Pete Thron also runs his rig like this sometimes, that's where I picked up that trick.

If your wanting a good long-term high quality ABY that has stereo inputs, get the Lehle Little Dual for a discount at Pro Guitar Shop.
 
I'm going to go with this signal path:

Guitar > LEHLE Little Dual Amp Switcher >
A: Pro Rack G Ch1 In > Pro Rack G Ch1 Out > Maxon OD808 > EVH 5150 III Stealth > FX Send > Pro Rack G Ch2 In > Pro Rack G Ch2 Out > FX Return > EVH Stealth 4x12
B: Boss SD-1 > Bogner Uberschall Twin Jet > FX Send > Nova System Line In > Nova Left Out > FX Return > UberCab 4x12

and run them in Y (both at the same time).....can hardly wait :D
 
I do the same thing with the Little Dual, run my BE100 and Herbert in stereo. Sounds unbelievably good!
 
The easiest way would probably be a pedal with stereo in's and out's. You might get some noise this way. I'd recommend a A/B that has polarity/phase switches. I've got a VooDoo Labs amp switcher which can run up to 4 amps at a time. It's way overkill, but I've never once had a problem with it. It's got level controls for each channel too. The Lehle stuff is top notch, but it's expensive.

I swear I think I'm the only guy around here who does this, but I dig running a gainy amp mixed with a cleanish amp. When I run my SLO and Bassman together, it sounds massive. The articulation with the cleanish/crunchy amp mixed just underneath the high-gain tone sounds pretty cool to me.
 
Keep in mind that if you run two amps, any time you add or subtract a gain stage (switch channels, kick in a boost on one amp, etc) the phase will switch, and you'll be out of phase.
 
DannyM":81xf7hvf said:
I'm going to go with this signal path:

Guitar > LEHLE Little Dual Amp Switcher >
A: Pro Rack G Ch1 In > Pro Rack G Ch1 Out > Maxon OD808 > EVH 5150 III Stealth > FX Send > Pro Rack G Ch2 In > Pro Rack G Ch2 Out > FX Return > EVH Stealth 4x12
B: Boss SD-1 > Bogner Uberschall Twin Jet > FX Send > Nova System Line In > Nova Left Out > FX Return > UberCab 4x12

and run them in Y (both at the same time).....can hardly wait :D
Well, looks like you are getting more serious about it then. I would look into being able to run the noise gate on both amps, and being able to run your Maxon before the signal split, unless you like one amp not boosted for some reason.

I use the Lehle P split.

You might run into problems with phasing, but you will not know until you try it. Once you find what channels you like best on each amp, when ran together in stereo, you will have a 50/50 chance it will be in phase. With both of my stereo rigs, I got lucky. Ch2+ on Herbert and CH3 on the VH4 are in phase together and is my favorite channel combo with that setup. Same with my Mesa rig, orange channel recto and lead channel mk3 phased up together.
 
Yep, find the channels you like best and hopefully they'll be in phase. If not, you can get an old BS2 buffer and it has a phase flip button on it.

Then, once you get those channels in phase, you can add boosts in front of the amps and it'll stay in phase because the boost is hitting BOTH amps. It's kinda a bummer because it'd be sweet to be able to switch channels and get blends of clean and dirty, etc, but to do that and stay in phase, you'd have to run a relay that flips the phase for you whenever you change channels.
 
^ the RJM Y-Not can flip the phase via MIDI if you get the right options. That way, you can be sure everything is in phase. But you have to some a MIDI solution for channel switching the amps too.
 
Whirlwind AB amp selector if just 2 amps.

I use a VooDoo Labs powered amp selector switch which lets me use 4 amps at once or any combo or single amp
 
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