Blades - Firebolt - Let's set the record straight! GREAT AMP

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slyym":2w6o1jii said:
Hey Steve I've often wondered how hard it is to design a circuit board like that? It looks like the hardest puzzle in the world to figure out. Do you guys use special software.
Yes, there is a 3D CAD package called Solidworks that we use for this. Even though the software provides automation, much of the board layout has to be done by hand in the software. It is more than just the schematic and board design too. Every part (electrical and mechanical) is imported and modeled in 3D and you can generate 3D rotate-able views of the amp so you can be assured everything fits correctly. I've posted some pictures of this in the past. You can find them if you search back to 2014 or so...

Steve
 
Luca79":1lq6oh7t said:
Tidy not always mean well build... There are more aspects to consider.

PCB or PTP not matter so much, but i prefer NOT have the power tubes sockets mount on the PCB, for heat problems. Pots, switches, jacks of good quality (there are much better pots then ALPHA). I don't like to see crimped stuff, or computers cables inside.

Hybrid PCB/PTP like the SLO is build for last forever, like a good PTP/turret build.
There is NO reason why a well-designed PCB amp should not have the power tubes PCB mounted. On my Bottle Rocket, the power tubes are both PCB and chassis mounted.
 
:lol: :LOL:


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Equ1nox":3lx29igy said:
Is there any interest in seeing a "production" Blades Firebolt??

After this fat fuck tattoo artist gone amplifier and musical equipment supplier (lol) sucked information of off everyone and real technicians and vowed NOT to go in business, did so anyway, he recently posted selling his 100th Firebolt!! There are a lot of stupid people out there and whether or not he's sold even that many can not be authenticated, but his pricing, even for a 50-watter, has skyrocketed from $1200-1500, to currently $2500!!

I've seen many people offing his amps since purchasing them. Recently one went on Rig-Talk for $900-$975! - http://www.rig-talk.com/forum/viewto...lades+firebolt I looked on Reverb the other day and a guy had a 2015 from NAMM he is sellling for $1500 (good luck with that). - https://reverb.com/item/2664119-blad...015-snake-skin

I purchased one last week to evaluate it in-person. Below are my conclusions along with:

Attached is a full layout of the Blades Custom Amplification Firebolt 50 so anyone can build it themselves along with the full review and photos!

ASTHETICS
U-G-L-Y, you ain't got no alibi!! Just like Billy's nothing short of horrible tattooing skills, his amps are just as hideous!

The cupholder is stupid and encourages liquid inside an amp...brillant..ly dumb. The carry-over cabinet handle...useless. A single-strap does just as good a job. Likewise, the handle is orientated NOT-ergonomically. Your wrist is rotated 90 degrees and although "balances", the union-boys would have a field day with this!! The chicken knobs...ugly and tacky.

How many times can you count the name "Billy Blades" on the fucking amp?!? I count FOUR!!! You know a psycologist told me about this one time...it's the Cliff Clavin syndrome. It's an introverted self-importance act...like a mailman in a bar that carrys a keychain with 100 keys on it. Must be good or important to have soo many keys, right?!? I had an old boss that did that. I'm sitting in his office in the 90's and I look around and I literally see 12-20 places within his cubicle with his name on it (business cards, office plaque, computer screen, etc)! Pretty disgusting. There should be NO MORE than TWO names on the amp and company, not your personal name!

The spray painted of whatever that is font and rear looks like someone made it in their garage after school (or tattoo parlor)!

The power and standby utilize "on" as DOWN!! Umm, that's what Marshall and they may do in the EU, but BB pawns this off as being American-made...um, in America, "on" is UP!!

DESIGN
A complete copy of the schematics out there on the internet and put together (guesses) from Mensur! The base is the complete Cameron Jose HG, but includes things like mid slope resistor shifting, gain level selection via changing the plate resistor values on the first triode.

Since the Blades has no real techinical skills nor his crew, it utilizes a passive serial loop (probably ripped off of Ceriatone! lol For some reason, he put in some sort of PPIMV, but not in the tyopical fashion with dual ganged pot, so it's funky and doesn't really appear to do anything past about 50%! The amp already has a master volume and everyone knows having a PPIMV can play on the NFB loop, so sort useless especially in this design/application!

Blades again stole the "Voicing" and "Depth" MODs from the schematics on the internet including the duplication of components (stupid). There are errors in the schematic and thus amp and are NOT to Jose/Cameron spec, which sound MUCH better than this (laughs) holy grail amp! lol

The amp is single-channel only, no dual master and so likewise is not suited for everyone and limited use.

There is no bias control and set and no tube selection. Likewise he just throws tubes in for that "grail tone". lol I measure the power tubes with a Amp-Head Dual Bias Tester with a variac set to 120.0VAC and one tube measured a fair 33.1mA which is about 33%, but the other tube measured 52.9mA (105%)! That is way off and I just did quick checks of the voltages and bias, but it was steady, so unless the battery in my meter was compromised or there was a loose connection in the amp, that's what I read and that sucks and in that....tone!!

CONSTRUCTION
Oh boy, this is worst part (even worse and compromised design)...the soldering and general layout is better than the abortion of Steve's #1 20-watt Firebolt, but there are a myriad of issues...The "custom" (laughs) chassis doesn't have sides and no structural integrity is compromised. As you can see in the photos, the nut tabs are bent in and are not even symmetry. There some tabs are bent inward to locate the holes appropriately! There are flying leads exposed, as well as bare wires for heaters!

TONE
The amp is fairly quiet as well as his "MODed" amps in the past. Pretty amazing really given the horrible construction, layout and lead dress. The tone...good, but NOT great. The clips on the net are heavily processed and with FX. He copied schematics as everyone thought and those designs were all compromised (wrong). There is not one or two things that could make this amp sound better but a myriad (maybe 20 things)!! It is FAR from "grail tone". The FX loop is the most remedial (probably copied from Ceriatone), so pretty much useless for any "profession" guitar player.

VALUE
Well, in the beginning it may have not been TOO bad and ~$1500 cost, but now that cost has crept us to $2500 today for a 50-watt Firebolt model!! From the price of this slightly used, but mint Oct 2015 model to actual sales I've seen online, they are selling for $900-1000, so anyone purchasing a new one is a sucker and will not be able to recoup their costs and eat a significan $1500!!

SUMMARY
The physical appearance is hideous, the design flawed, the construction sub-par, the cost WAY too expensive and lose money on, finally the tone is good, but not great and compromised do to a neophyte stealing compromised designs from the internet and thinking it is 100% accurate and that they can go in business with no real formal technical education or experience or engineering background. Blades Custom Amplification is FAR from "custom" and "grail tone" and do to the above should be passed up for more reputable amp designers and manufacturers that make the designs he's trying to clone. This until goes back to the store for a full refund today!

LAYOUT:
Blades%20Amplification%20-%20Firebolt%20-%20Layout.png~original


Attached is a link to a slideshow of the photos. Let me know your thoughts and comments:

SLIDESHOW:
http://s934.photobucket.com/user/rr...ades Firebolt/Blades Firebolt 50 - Production

POOR QUALITY:
Bare Heater Wires
IMG_5385.jpg~original


Bent Chassis
IMG_5331.jpg~original


FullSizeRender26_1.jpg~original


Look at this quality thou!...at Blades Custom Amplification, Quality is Job NONE!!! :roll:

Let me/us know YOUR thoughts. The photos speak for themselves.




You got this from a music store? I am surprised any stores even have them. Just what they need, some kid goes in with mom and dad, has never heard of Blades, decides to try it out and ends up getting electrocuted.
 
scottosan":wq0l1r1r said:
Some more Blades greatness. I don't know how someone can stay in business tattooing like this either.


SLICED BY THE BLADEZ!!!!
 
I just love how the Blades threads are the most active and most viewers.
 
scottosan":1lrayck2 said:
Please do not refer to Billy as a tattoo artist. He is a scratcher/hack with a tattoo gun.
Agreed.

Wasn't super impressed with the tatts I saw online.


Equ1nox":1lrayck2 said:
Is there any interest in seeing a "production" Blades Firebolt??

After this fat fuck tattoo artist gone amplifier and musical equipment supplier (lol) sucked information of off everyone and real technicians and vowed NOT to go in business, did so anyway, he recently posted selling his 100th Firebolt!! There are a lot of stupid people out there and whether or not he's sold even that many can not be authenticated, but his pricing, even for a 50-watter, has skyrocketed from $1200-1500, to currently $2500!!

I've seen many people offing his amps since purchasing them. Recently one went on Rig-Talk for $900-$975! - http://www.rig-talk.com/forum/viewto...lades+firebolt I looked on Reverb the other day and a guy had a 2015 from NAMM he is sellling for $1500 (good luck with that). - https://reverb.com/item/2664119-blad...015-snake-skin

I purchased one last week to evaluate it in-person. Below are my conclusions along with:

Attached is a full layout of the Blades Custom Amplification Firebolt 50 so anyone can build it themselves along with the full review and photos!

ASTHETICS
U-G-L-Y, you ain't got no alibi!! Just like Billy's nothing short of horrible tattooing skills, his amps are just as hideous!

The cupholder is stupid and encourages liquid inside an amp...brillant..ly dumb. The carry-over cabinet handle...useless. A single-strap does just as good a job. Likewise, the handle is orientated NOT-ergonomically. Your wrist is rotated 90 degrees and although "balances", the union-boys would have a field day with this!! The chicken knobs...ugly and tacky.

How many times can you count the name "Billy Blades" on the fucking amp?!? I count FOUR!!! You know a psycologist told me about this one time...it's the Cliff Clavin syndrome. It's an introverted self-importance act...like a mailman in a bar that carrys a keychain with 100 keys on it. Must be good or important to have soo many keys, right?!? I had an old boss that did that. I'm sitting in his office in the 90's and I look around and I literally see 12-20 places within his cubicle with his name on it (business cards, office plaque, computer screen, etc)! Pretty disgusting. There should be NO MORE than TWO names on the amp and company, not your personal name!

The spray painted of whatever that is font and rear looks like someone made it in their garage after school (or tattoo parlor)!

The power and standby utilize "on" as DOWN!! Umm, that's what Marshall and they may do in the EU, but BB pawns this off as being American-made...um, in America, "on" is UP!!

DESIGN
A complete copy of the schematics out there on the internet and put together (guesses) from Mensur! The base is the complete Cameron Jose HG, but includes things like mid slope resistor shifting, gain level selection via changing the plate resistor values on the first triode.

Since the Blades has no real techinical skills nor his crew, it utilizes a passive serial loop (probably ripped off of Ceriatone! lol For some reason, he put in some sort of PPIMV, but not in the tyopical fashion with dual ganged pot, so it's funky and doesn't really appear to do anything past about 50%! The amp already has a master volume and everyone knows having a PPIMV can play on the NFB loop, so sort useless especially in this design/application!

Blades again stole the "Voicing" and "Depth" MODs from the schematics on the internet including the duplication of components (stupid). There are errors in the schematic and thus amp and are NOT to Jose/Cameron spec, which sound MUCH better than this (laughs) holy grail amp! lol

The amp is single-channel only, no dual master and so likewise is not suited for everyone and limited use.

There is no bias control and set and no tube selection. Likewise he just throws tubes in for that "grail tone". lol I measure the power tubes with a Amp-Head Dual Bias Tester with a variac set to 120.0VAC and one tube measured a fair 33.1mA which is about 33%, but the other tube measured 52.9mA (105%)! That is way off and I just did quick checks of the voltages and bias, but it was steady, so unless the battery in my meter was compromised or there was a loose connection in the amp, that's what I read and that sucks and in that....tone!!

CONSTRUCTION
Oh boy, this is worst part (even worse and compromised design)...the soldering and general layout is better than the abortion of Steve's #1 20-watt Firebolt, but there are a myriad of issues...The "custom" (laughs) chassis doesn't have sides and no structural integrity is compromised. As you can see in the photos, the nut tabs are bent in and are not even symmetry. There some tabs are bent inward to locate the holes appropriately! There are flying leads exposed, as well as bare wires for heaters!

TONE
The amp is fairly quiet as well as his "MODed" amps in the past. Pretty amazing really given the horrible construction, layout and lead dress. The tone...good, but NOT great. The clips on the net are heavily processed and with FX. He copied schematics as everyone thought and those designs were all compromised (wrong). There is not one or two things that could make this amp sound better but a myriad (maybe 20 things)!! It is FAR from "grail tone". The FX loop is the most remedial (probably copied from Ceriatone), so pretty much useless for any "profession" guitar player.

VALUE
Well, in the beginning it may have not been TOO bad and ~$1500 cost, but now that cost has crept us to $2500 today for a 50-watt Firebolt model!! From the price of this slightly used, but mint Oct 2015 model to actual sales I've seen online, they are selling for $900-1000, so anyone purchasing a new one is a sucker and will not be able to recoup their costs and eat a significan $1500!!

SUMMARY
The physical appearance is hideous, the design flawed, the construction sub-par, the cost WAY too expensive and lose money on, finally the tone is good, but not great and compromised do to a neophyte stealing compromised designs from the internet and thinking it is 100% accurate and that they can go in business with no real formal technical education or experience or engineering background. Blades Custom Amplification is FAR from "custom" and "grail tone" and do to the above should be passed up for more reputable amp designers and manufacturers that make the designs he's trying to clone. This until goes back to the store for a full refund today!

LAYOUT:


Attached is a link to a slideshow of the photos. Let me know your thoughts and comments:

SLIDESHOW:


POOR QUALITY:
Bare Heater Wires


Bent Chassis


Look at this quality thou!...at Blades Custom Amplification, Quality is Job NONE!!! :roll:

Let me/us know YOUR thoughts. The photos speak for themselves.





Big Fat +1

Been following this story for years. Tonally, I have no issue with his amps. The way he hit the market and the safety concerns were my biggest issue. Thanks for taking one for the team.

:worship: :worship: :worship:
 
maddnotez":4gprm6zz said:
I just love how the Blades threads are the most active and most viewers.
There's no such thing as bad publicity! :)

Steve
 
With the Blades layout I can finally build my own version of an unstable and dangerous amp into the spare Weber kit 1987x I have sitting around... it is already messy as fuck, what is a little more rats nest! Thanks RT.... I will be selling these soon for rock bottom prices: 1999.99 US DOLLARS which are almost worth 10,000$ canadian. I' m set!
 
"Which costs less? One is $2299.00 and the other is $2499.00..."

...and the cheaper one is 2 channel plus solo master and sounds better, the other is a single channel and sounds worse! No brainer!!

"All I'm saying is OP rolled all up in here "about to help us get something straight" but does not seem to have done his homework HERE or on any other forums."

...maybe he should open up his amp (if the photos don't sink in) and realize what a piece of sh*t he bought and take off that Wreck Crew T-shirt!

p.s. - SloClone....clone looks great! Enjoy!! :)
 
Billy is a liar, plain and simple. I'd buy a bugera over his amp if they were the same price.
 
ok guys...........I get it...........I'm the OP and have certainly learned a lot from my first post.
Just an FYI..........I did change out ALL of the tubes. I used some vintage NOS Svetlana Winged -C- EL34's.
A vintage NOS Westinghouse 5150 in the phase inverter position, and some Tubestore "preferred series" 7025
preamp tubes. After replacing the tubes, it really does sound fantastic! Maybe I should have put that in
my original post. I do appreciate the info about potential dangers and will investigate those and correct
them as necessary. Ultimately, for me........it's about the sound/tone, etc. and the amp is providing
me with something perfect for what I'm using it for. Hard rock. Both original and covers. Bar band gigs.
I only need one channel for this particular gig/band, etc. I do have other amps that are multi-channel
like my Fuchs Fullhouse 50 and my Redplate. I use those for other gigs that require more versatility
and include songs that need the clean channel. But, for what it is.......I'm happy with it. I am intrigued
by the Henning Cherry Bomb. Who knows..........I may just buy one! I saw a thread here on RT where
someone was selling SN #1 for $1,550.00 but I could not respond or reply to the thread. If anyone
knows if that person is still selling it, I'm interested in buying it.

Thank you to those who provided helpful information.
 
billowen99":b7hdehdk said:
ok guys...........I get it...........I'm the OP and have certainly learned a lot from my first post.
Just an FYI..........I did change out ALL of the tubes. I used some vintage NOS Svetlana Winged -C- EL34's.
A vintage NOS Westinghouse 5150 in the phase inverter position, and some Tubestore "preferred series" 7025
preamp tubes. After replacing the tubes, it really does sound fantastic! Maybe I should have put that in
my original post. I do appreciate the info about potential dangers and will investigate those and correct
them as necessary. Ultimately, for me........it's about the sound/tone, etc. and the amp is providing
me with something perfect for what I'm using it for. Hard rock. Both original and covers. Bar band gigs.
I only need one channel for this particular gig/band, etc. I do have other amps that are multi-channel
like my Fuchs Fullhouse 50 and my Redplate. I use those for other gigs that require more versatility
and include songs that need the clean channel. But, for what it is.......I'm happy with it. I am intrigued
by the Henning Cherry Bomb. Who knows..........I may just buy one! I saw a thread here on RT where
someone was selling SN #1 for $1,550.00 but I could not respond or reply to the thread. If anyone
knows if that person is still selling it, I'm interested in buying it.

Thank you to those who provided helpful information.
Bill - nothing wrong with digging your amp. Get the safety concerns dealt with and you'll be fine. The response you got was more about the way Blades went about his business than you. He left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths...

Just so you know, I offer two amps, the Cherry Bomb (two channels) and the Bottle Rocket (single channel). The Bottle Rocket is pictured in this thread and is the more aggressive of the two amps. If you like the Blades amp, you'd probably prefer the Bottle Rocket to the Cherry Bomb.

If you are thinking of picking up one of my amps used or new, I highly recommend you go to my site and read up on both of them and listen to the clips and videos so you are making an informed choice. The manuals are posted on the amp pages as well. Happy to answer any questions you have...

Steve
 
Thanks Steve..........I did listen to some clips of the Cherry Bomb.
I will go back and listen to more clips and be in touch.
 
sah5150":1js6dj8n said:
I'll just leave this:

Henning017_FinalClip.jpg


FullSizeRender26_1.jpg~original


Which costs less? One is $2299.00 and the other is $2499.00...

Steve


I tend to stay out of threads like this, but this post is epic.

:lol: :LOL:
 
I've been busy and away from forums for a while and not keeping up with anything...never heard of Blades, but damn, sounds like all its doing is WINNING (...sarcasm of course))
 
FourT6and2":zkk06jgl said:
spliffsperlunk":zkk06jgl said:
Wow , one of our members recently posted gut shot pics of a Soldano clone he built and it looked like a work of art , his build quality put those to shame.

:rock:

It's for sale, btw! ;) $1500. Or well... you can pay $2500 for a master-built Bladezzzzz. Building guitar amps is not that hard. Soldering isn't difficult. Anybody should be able to pick up an iron and build something like this as long as they have a little patience. All I did was copy Soldano though lol. Props to him for coming up with it. The layout really is beautiful.

slo_clone_1_by_haftelm-d7sk7t6.jpg
That is some fantastic amp-art you have done there :yes:
 
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