Boogie goes from magic to meh in just one amp

[just42dave]

Bought one of these heads earlier this week for 2100.00 new..
got 800.00 of cymbals and some drum gear and tubes thrown in to make me buy the amp..
5 hrs later sold the amp for 1900.00 on ebay still love my Zildjans and and Paistes lol even my wife said ughhh thats horrible SELL IT!!!!!!

 

[spawnofthesith]

Bought one of these heads earlier this week for 2100.00 new..
got 800.00 of cymbals and some drum gear and tubes thrown in to make me buy the amp..
5 hrs later sold the amp for 1900.00 on ebay still love my Zildjans and and Paistes lol even my wife said ughhh thats horrible SELL IT!!!!!!

Doesn't sound like you spent enough time with it

 

[some dude]

Doesn't sound like you spent enough time with it

Mesa noob = Mesa noob.

I'm totally cool with people not being into Mesas... but people bragging about how fast they get rid of one always seemed rather noob-ish to me.

"Hi, my name is Bob. I'm going to spend a lot of money on an amp, not take the time to learn how to use it, then sell it at a loss. Then, I'm going to go brag about the whole thing on the internet in blatant display of douche-baggery."

 

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i was swapping some speakers in and out of 2x12s last weekend and remembered this thread & these clips, when my Mark V sounded better through my Bogner OS 2x12, like Big Rich used in his clips, than through my Recto 2x12.

this was even with the exact same v30s in both cabs. through the Bogner it was thicker and "chewier" in the midrange, more articulate. not quite as much low end but still plenty; not as boomy or as scooped. the sound through the Recto had a bit of that tight but scooped sorta hard rock sound that makes me think of sound inside a tunnel, if that makes sense. it was a bit "dryer" sounding too, so it did sound like the gain knob was lower even though it was set exactly the same.

maybe Mesa should tell people to demo Mark Vs through Bogner cabs.

 

[petejt]

Has anyone tried to get the MKV sound from a MKIV? Any luck?

I haven't tried, and don't really want to either.

 

[thiswaythatway]

OK, i found 2 Mark V's today and gave them a whirl. A 1x12 combo and a head on a Recto 4x12. I was getting plenty of gain, more than i needed and if i tuned down the guitar's it was similiar to the sound Big Rich was getting. So gain was not an issue.

For me, again, maybe my ears have just changed? I didn't like the tones the Mark V puts out. I'll take the Electra Dyne boosted with an OD pedal over anything the Mark V can do. I guess I've spent too much time playing a modded Marshall. The crunch mode on the V is better than R2 on the Mark IV, but it's not really what I'd call a Marshall crunch by any strech, but it's a cool tone on it's own. And agian channel 2 sounded bigger than channel 3.

If you approach the amp expecting to hear a Marshall type tone you are going to be disappointed. A lot of it is mental, but I think the amp's character is in your hands, literally. It doesn't have the 'sustain gain' that a Marshall type amp has where you barely have to do anything to get the amp to make noise and it makes your riffs flow smoothly. I think this leads some people's right hand technique to become a bit lazy because they rely on the 'sustain gain' too much. The V works better and sounds gainier the heavier you pick and you actually have to play smoothly in order for it to sound smooth...

Not in my experience.

In this video I am using a Mesa MKIII Coliseum for the intro clean tone on the R2 channel, a Marshall SLP, when the rhythm gets heavier, and the Boogie Coliseum-- on the lead channel, from the solo out.

The IIC+ and some Mark III's are really the only Mark series amps i really bonded with. I kinda liked a few of the IV's i had but never felt 100% at home with them. And forget the V.

 

[JakeAC5253]

Has anyone tried to get the MKV sound from a MKIV? Any luck?

I haven't tried, and don't really want to either.

Lol, I guess no one caught my sarcasm. My point being that they are different amps with a different tonal base. Saying that you don't like a Mark V because it doesn't sound like a Mark IV is quite similar in my opinion to saying that you don't like green because it's not red.

 

[Zachman]

OK, i found 2 Mark V's today and gave them a whirl. A 1x12 combo and a head on a Recto 4x12. I was getting plenty of gain, more than i needed and if i tuned down the guitar's it was similiar to the sound Big Rich was getting. So gain was not an issue.

For me, again, maybe my ears have just changed? I didn't like the tones the Mark V puts out. I'll take the Electra Dyne boosted with an OD pedal over anything the Mark V can do. I guess I've spent too much time playing a modded Marshall. The crunch mode on the V is better than R2 on the Mark IV, but it's not really what I'd call a Marshall crunch by any strech, but it's a cool tone on it's own. And agian channel 2 sounded bigger than channel 3.

If you approach the amp expecting to hear a Marshall type tone you are going to be disappointed. A lot of it is mental, but I think the amp's character is in your hands, literally. It doesn't have the 'sustain gain' that a Marshall type amp has where you barely have to do anything to get the amp to make noise and it makes your riffs flow smoothly. I think this leads some people's right hand technique to become a bit lazy because they rely on the 'sustain gain' too much. The V works better and sounds gainier the heavier you pick and you actually have to play smoothly in order for it to sound smooth...

Not in my experience.

In this video I am using a Mesa MKIII Coliseum for the intro clean tone on the R2 channel, a Marshall SLP, when the rhythm gets heavier, and the Boogie Coliseum-- on the lead channel, from the solo out.

The IIC+ and some Mark III's are really the only Mark series amps i really bonded with. I kinda liked a few of the IV's i had but never felt 100% at home with them. And forget the V.

For the most part, I concur. There have been exceptions-- rather than rules. Ex... I used to have a MKIIB that was AWESOME, and I had another that I gave Pat, that wasn't at all similar sounding.

 

[Anonymous]

If you approach the amp expecting to hear a Marshall type tone you are going to be disappointed. A lot of it is mental, but I think the amp's character is in your hands, literally. It doesn't have the 'sustain gain' that a Marshall type amp has where you barely have to do anything to get the amp to make noise and it makes your riffs flow smoothly. I think this leads some people's right hand technique to become a bit lazy because they rely on the 'sustain gain' too much. The V works better and sounds gainier the heavier you pick and you actually have to play smoothly in order for it to sound smooth...

+1

i hate amps that sustain like that. i like an amp that makes me work. if you're not attacking your guitar playing heavy, whats the point.

 

[crankyrayhanky]

I love those clips Big Rich, hell of a tone on both of them. I wanted a Mark IV, but ended up with a Single Rec due to the price. I'm having trouble finding sounds I like right now for High Gain rhythm tones. Everything I do comes out either washed-out sounding, or Fizzy/bright and flubby low end.

Got any tips?

Quiet & moderate levels sck on a Rec- play it LOUD