Boogie JP2C (Coming Back)

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Superunknown":20ya8tqv said:
RJF":20ya8tqv said:
You're returning an amp that you really like over a slight noise from the loop?

Not a slight noise. More like an avalanche with a huge volume pop and echo that will scare the masses when you change channels. Makes the amp unusable live IMHO.

That's a downer... I think mesa should eat the costs for both shipping.
I actually would like to hear what that sounds like to see how bad it is. Maybe if you don't mind recording it? I am not j/k BTW.
 
There's no popping sound. What happens is that if you're sustaining a note or chord with delay on and it's still repeating as you switch from one of the dirty channels to the clean channel, that initial repeat after the channel switches gets a volume bump.

I noticed this, but personally didn't care. All I did was let off the note as I'm switching and the problem is pretty non-existent. Same when using a switching system.

It's a no-win scenario. The moment Mesa would have compromised the integrity of the original circuit, then people would have bitched the circuit wasn't the same. It doesn't bother me. I've already worked around it. Even with a "fix", I'd rather keep the circuit original. YMMV.
 
I have one coming Wednesday, don't think it will be an issue. Not to worried about using the clean channel.
 
Here you go...don't mean to bash the amp but just wish this didn't happen when gigging live.

 
Are you using the amp's reverb there at all and if so does it make any difference if you turn the reverb off all the channels?
 
katsumura78":1jfoj086 said:
Are you using the amp's reverb there at all and if so does it make any difference if you turn the reverb off all the channels?

No sir...no reverb on at all completely off makes no difference
 
Superunknown":v3i6q6o5 said:
Here you go...don't mean to bash the amp but just wish this didn't happen when gigging live.

:no: That's definitely fucked up. There always seems to be that one thing that keeps every amp from being "the perfect amp".
 
It also sounds exaggerated here because that clip is at whisper volume on the dial. I don't think I've ever had mine turned lower than 10:00 :lol: :LOL: I'll try to make a clip later as well.
 
LP Freak":30mxcpjz said:
Superunknown":30mxcpjz said:
Here you go...don't mean to bash the amp but just wish this didn't happen when gigging live.

:no: That's definitely fucked up. There always seems to be that one thing that keeps every amp from being "the perfect amp".

^^this^^ How in the f@#k can they even let these out of the factory like that? :doh: :doh: :doh: :thumbsdown:
 
That's quite a siginificant volume boost!

So I guess the only solution as of now would be: before you change the channel put it on stand by change the ch and flip it back on?! :D
 
Superunknown":1mb11g9l said:
Here you go...don't mean to bash the amp but just wish this didn't happen when gigging live.

I personally don't think it sounds all that bad. If I had bought a new JP2C and loved it, I'd just keep it. Mesa will probably come up with a fix over time anyway. I would think it could be worked around live anyway, and in a band setting with everyone making noise, I doubt an audience would notice much. Some things are more important to others I guess. I personally wouldn't sweat that in the least.
 
Well my JP-2C just shipped today. This thread had me stoked for awhile but now has me very worried with this whole FX loop issue :-/
 
RJF":v8au6s4d said:
I personally don't think it sounds all that bad. If I had bought a new JP2C and loved it, I'd just keep it. Mesa will probably come up with a fix over time anyway. I would think it could be worked around live anyway, and in a band setting with everyone making noise, I doubt an audience would notice much. Some things are more important to others I guess. I personally wouldn't sweat that in the least.

I personally don't want a "fix". I'd rather have the circuit original. In that clip, the volume is practically off. The repeat doesn't scale much with volume up.

For me, I'd rather have it as-is than to alter the circuit so that I avoid a volume jump on a repeat for the 3 seconds of a show when I happen to be holding a delayed, distorted note that's still repeating and switch to my clean channel before the note trails off enough... :D

Why not just turn off the delay in that one instance before switching channels if it's that bothersome instead of wanting to change the circuit? That would be more important to me.

I can understand why it would be a bigger problem for some folks than it is for me.
 
I had a feeling this would be another flavor of the month amp, you flip flopping toads..

I can't believe Mesa would let the amp go thru QC with that switching issue tho.
 
stephen sawall":354a195p said:
Les Zombie":354a195p said:
I seen people predicting some guys selling their V's cheap and that could very well be the case with me because i wanna move it quick if i like the jp.
I don't think it is going to have much effect on the prices of other gear. It's pretty different than the V.

Pretty much what I was hoping, since I was waiting for a deal on a Mark V and have no interest in this new amp. Snagged a Mark V today for a great price. :rock:
 
NewWorldMan":28w8igel said:
RJF":28w8igel said:
I personally don't think it sounds all that bad. If I had bought a new JP2C and loved it, I'd just keep it. Mesa will probably come up with a fix over time anyway. I would think it could be worked around live anyway, and in a band setting with everyone making noise, I doubt an audience would notice much. Some things are more important to others I guess. I personally wouldn't sweat that in the least.

I personally don't want a "fix". I'd rather have the circuit original. In that clip, the volume is practically off. The repeat doesn't scale much with volume up.

For me, I'd rather have it as-is than to alter the circuit so that I avoid a volume jump on a repeat for the 3 seconds of a show when I happen to be holding a delayed, distorted note that's still repeating and switch to my clean channel before the note trails off enough... :D

Why not just turn off the delay in that one instance before switching channels if it's that bothersome instead of wanting to change the circuit? That would be more important to me.

I can understand why it would be a bigger problem for some folks than it is for me.
We think alike. If it's even less noticeable with the volume up, it almost sounds like a cool effect.
 
It seems that would of been a basic QC check of switching the channels with an effect running in the loop.
Can't see how this could of been missed at the factory? :confused:
 
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