NAD - MGL Ampworks Limited Edition MGL50

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What @tallcoolone said. The MGL 50W is incredible. Thanks for convincing me to take the leap. This amp delivers.
 

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tallcoolone said:
Ok, I’ve had this amp for a month now, gigged a local outdoor festival with it and have been comparing it to the amps in my sig pretty much an hour a day so I’ve got a pretty good feel for it at this point. With the big ole’ Heyboer transformers it is a heavy 50w small box amp—I believe Mark said these were the same trannys as the 100w. I believe Mark described this and the new 100w models as ‘limited’ b/c they come with NOS Siemens power tubes, hand selected preamp tubes and NOS mustard caps but I’m sure he can clarify if you reach out. Hand wired turret board construction.

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I already have an earlier MGL50 that I’ve been loving so I went in knowing I was going to get an amp with real ‘punch’, unlike a lot of other M type amps that add gain but neuter the amp in the process. If you’ve ever had a late 70s early 80s Marshall you know what I mean by punch. 2 channels—you can go from a little more than traditional 2204 type levels on both channels or choose a higher gain on ch2. Both clean up perfectly with the volume knob on your guitar and with the dual master volumes the amp can be set up as a traditional 2 channel amp. A switch on the back activates diode clipping and while heavier than I would ever use—is pretty damn fun to play lol. The footswitch is silent and click/pop free.

Out of the amps in my sig I would have to say the higher gain channel most resembles my 2204 w/JEL mods. Not over the top gainy, but addictively ‘grind-y’ in the upper midrange—been loving it through H75 Creambacks, it just snarls. I love ODs and EQs on the floor but this amp just doesn’t need em. Plugged straight in It is incredibly easy and satisfying to play—harmonics all over the place when you dig in and dynamic when you lay off a bit. You know that cool non buzzy sustain you get with a cranked old Marshall? Metro zero loss loop works great for reverb and delay.

Bottom line this amp does an authentic Marshall thumpandkerrang unlike any other non Marshall I’ve played. Usually I drop the $2-3k+ on a booteek ‘perfected Marshall’ only to find out it’s a ‘polite Marshall’…the MGL can bite like the real deal and with the surprisingly responsive tmbp controls you can tame it if that’s what you want. Master is great—no issues getting a satisfying tone later at night

Kinda pissed I set up my phone with the new Shure speaker at the last gig but due to user error I got no sound..I’ll add clips with we play again but I did want to toss some flowers here at one of the best amps I’ve ever owned. I’m lucky enough to live in beautiful New Hampshire so I’m able to drop in to Mark’s shop—the guy loves Gibsons and Marshalls more than anyone else I know and I can’t recommend him enough
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Holy moly. I didn’t realize Mark was in NH! My family’s spring break plans may have changed
 
I’ve slept on whether I was going to point this out and I absolutely cannot let this go unstated as safety is always the number one priority for everyone.

If the amp is not properly grounded for any reason, and just one of those primary or secondary PT wires are cut by chafing the razor sharp chassis edge, it could literally kill someone.

Grommets are absolutely necessary for that tight bunch of high tension lines.

The hole should not be obstructed.

Wires should not be physically strained.

The hole was improperly located and still using them with the iron core pinching over half the hole off, especially without grommets, is just super dangerous and not acceptable.

The chassis needs a new hole cut, grommets on both sides installed, and wire bunching minimized as to not allow wires to chafe one another, and wire slack added with zip ties to remove stress and chance of wire to wire chafing.

On top of it, the chassis ground green wire should be strapped to the exposed raw chassis hole and not the painted part of the chassis on the bottom right. It’s best to grind off the paint for the chassis safety earth ground for best contact. Looks do not supersede safety and the chassis already has a hole for that very function on the top right.

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glpg80 said:
I’ve slept on whether I was going to point this out and I absolutely cannot let this go unstated as safety is always the number one priority for everyone.

If the amp is not properly grounded for any reason, and just one of those primary or secondary PT wires are cut by chafing the razor sharp chassis edge, it could literally kill someone.

Grommets are absolutely necessary for that tight bunch of high tension lines.

The hole should not be obstructed.

Wires should not be physically strained.

The hole was improperly located and still using them with the iron core pinching over half the hole off, especially without grommets, is just super dangerous and not acceptable.

The chassis needs a new hole cut, grommets on both sides installed, and wire bunching minimized as to not allow wires to chafe one another, and wire slack added with zip ties to remove stress and chance of wire to wire chafing.

On top of it, the chassis ground green wire should be strapped to the exposed raw chassis hole and not the painted part of the chassis on the bottom right. It’s best to grind off the paint for the chassis safety earth ground for best contact. Looks do not supersede safety and the chassis already has a hole for that very function on the top right.

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You are certainly welcome to your opinions. First off, by blowing up the pictures, you are making things looking tighter than they are, but that’s ok. Passing judgement by pictures only can sometimes bite you in the ass. All of our amp chassis’s are aluminum and the holes are de burred and the edges are softened. And then they are powder coated. So there an no, as you say, “razor sharp” edges. and on you chassis ground issue, what you don’t know is that we have threaded ground studs that are welded and pass thru the raw aluminum. So, impossible to not be a good ground! I’m not going to get into a pissing match with you. I stand by how we build. The builds are done by an engineer that has worked with large companies all over the world for many years, designed many big projects for government and aerospace. And before that was the designer and an owner of Bedrock Amps all thru the ‘90’s. We have built and sold well over 200 amps with zero problems from anything you have brought up. Many amps out on the road with hundreds of gigs on them. I think that speaks for itself.
 
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Not getting into it with you - I simply pointed it out as I thought it was an honest mistake and explained my opinion as to why it’s worth mentioning for others.

Safety is important which we can all agree on.

If that’s intentional I appreciate the explanation. You’re right that’s certainly not how I would do it, but we all have our preferences.
 
tallcoolone said:
Yes you do. You also have your shop address right there on your website unlike some other ‘companies’.

If he was as concerned about safety as he says, he would have PM’d you, not post in this thread like a bitch
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Since when is open observation about safety limited to private messages?

We all stand behind our products and I’m glad he’s responded to outline those concerns. That benefits everyone - I can’t be the only person.
 
glpg80 said:
Since when is open observation about safety limited to private messages?

We all stand behind our products and I’m glad he’s responded to outline those concerns. That benefits everyone - I can’t be the only person.
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‘We all’—why don’t you just speak for yourself Chief. I found out about MGL amps by visiting Mark’s shop, buying a guitar and chatting about tone. I’ve never seen one of your amps? Where is ‘radiotron amplifiers’ shop located? Or do you just cosplay on forums?

Douche
 
So, I was going to leave this alone but the more I think about it, the more I feel the need to post this. These kind of negative posts are happening far too often on public forums these days without concern to how they may harm real business's. glpg80, I know you are into coming up with amp mods and looks like you want to come out with your own amp build sometime in the future. So you are trying to get into the amp business. But as of now, my guess is that you have a day gig and the amp stuff is a hobby. If I saw something from another amp builder(not a weekend warrior builder) that concerned me enough that I felt the need to intrude on his build specs, I would have the professional courtesy to privately contact them with my concern. But it would have to be a seriously major concern to poke my nose into their business. This is actually the 2nd time you have posted a picture and called us out on something that was false. Over a year ago, "smash" posted pictures of his MGL50 amp. You posted a picture and claimed that he needed to immediately bring the amp to a tech as it was dangerous and had multiple cold solder joints. Just because you didn't like the way they looked in a picture. The amp in question was absolutely fine with zero issues and is still that way. The amp has been to a number of amp shows and "smash" has enjoyed playing it for many hours. I've had my guitar shop for over 25 years and my amp business for just about 10 years. This is NOT a hobby, this IS my livelihood and how I make my livivng. So in the future, might I suggest following a more professional method of voicing your concerns. As these kind of posts can have undeserved negative effects on hard working people's business.
 
tallcoolone said:
‘We all’—why don’t you just speak for yourself Chief. I found out about MGL amps by visiting Mark’s shop, buying a guitar and chatting about tone. I’ve never seen one of your amps? Where is ‘radiotron amplifiers’ shop located? Or do you just cosplay on forums?

Douche
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HNAD and congratulations on the badass amplifier and I’m glad you’re happy.
 
MGL AmpWorks said:
So, I was going to leave this alone but the more I think about it, the more I feel the need to post this. These kind of negative posts are happening far too often on public forums these days without concern to how they may harm real business's. glpg80, I know you are into coming up with amp mods and looks like you want to come out with your own amp build sometime in the future. So you are trying to get into the amp business. But as of now, my guess is that you have a day gig and the amp stuff is a hobby. If I saw something from another amp builder(not a weekend warrior builder) that concerned me enough that I felt the need to intrude on his build specs, I would have the professional courtesy to privately contact them with my concern. But it would have to be a seriously major concern to poke my nose into their business. This is actually the 2nd time you have posted a picture and called us out on something that was false. Over a year ago, "smash" posted pictures of his MGL50 amp. You posted a picture and claimed that he needed to immediately bring the amp to a tech as it was dangerous and had multiple cold solder joints. Just because you didn't like the way they looked in a picture. The amp in question was absolutely fine with zero issues and is still that way. The amp has been to a number of amp shows and "smash" has enjoyed playing it for many hours. I've had my guitar shop for over 25 years and my amp business for just about 10 years. This is NOT a hobby, this IS my livelihood and how I make my livivng. So in the future, might I suggest following a more professional method of voicing your concerns. As these kind of posts can have undeserved negative effects on hard working people's business.
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Much apologies Mark and I have the utmost respect for your hard work and amplifier line. They look great and are consistent.

Since it bothers you - @Monkey Man @JackBootedThug @DanTravis62 please remove my posts from this thread. I thought you answered the questions and spoke to every single concern for the benefit of everyone but apparently I am the one in the wrong for even having the concern in the first place.

I don’t recall the solder joint comment but if it bothered you that much to remember something that long ago, why not message me about it? Cold joints happen - it’s a part of building circuits. If you’re aware of the post, I’ll go remove it.

I want no qualms and you build an awesome product. Much apologies once again. Have an excellent weekend and let the solder flow.
 
Don’t bother deleting anything, I’ve already taken screenshots. This guy’s only concern is self promotion and has a history of similar pissing posts.
 
Okay let’s relax. Glpg80 had a concern and brought it to light… mgl answered it… glpg80 apologized if it was taken as an insult.. so no drama…it’s over…
 
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