danyeo":bnw7qu6t said:
rupe":bnw7qu6t said:
All of the people who posted on that thread who:
A) Got a gain structure closest to VHI
B) Actually saw the internals of the amp
think that he essentially used a stock plexi that di not have a Jose mod. John Suhr confirmed that most of the solder joints were original, speciafically the ones that would have needed to be changed for the "Jose mod".
Pete Thorn and others clearly got enough gain out of a stock amp to do VH. We all know that numerous other factors go into a recorded tone on an album, but it was clear that a mod is unnecessary to reach the level of gain actually used by Ed.
Agree, you don't need a modded Marshall to get VH tones. However, it's extremely hard to get that VH tone without cranking the shit out of a Marshall and pissing off the whole neighborhood. Modded amps can get it much much easier and at lower gains.
I have never chased the VH tone but i did a clip with my Fortin and i think i got in the ballpark but the volume on my amp was lower then my TV at what i call a normal TV volume and it was at 11:00pm with my 1 year old sleeping upstairs. Try doing that with your stock Superlead.
i don't think it's physically possible to get vh tone at tv volumes because of the speaker aspect. if you are trying to decide if it sounds brown because the volume isn't there to clearly feel it, it's not brown.
a speaker, barely moving, is lame.
mark knows the vh factor and his amps reflect that core thing, even at the highest gain, similar to what is heard in mojave and vht amps. the midrange growl and clarity that spanks open.
never played a voodoo but trace is cool and i'd bet he could get some happening vh tone from his circuits as well.