Cameron type amps

[Chris O]

*sigh* I think it's almost time to deploy the "ignore" function... Suggest alot of other people do the same.

 

[Chester Nimitz]

Someone stated when you buy Ceriatone kits there is no directions just parts.

That would be hard to pull off for anybody.

Right. You gotta know what you're doing. But it's not difficult.

What is a "kit" anyway? People think a "kit" is somehow ready-made, easy-to-put-together. What Metro used to have is a real kit. You get instructions that literally walk you through the process, step-by-step. Ceriatone isn't really selling "kits." You get all the parts in one box instead of sourcing them all yourself from Mouser, Digi-Key, Farnell, etc. But it's not a "kit" in that they tell you how to build the thing. You need to know what you're doing. There's a layout diagram though.

Personally, it saves a lot of time and effort to get all the parts from one source. But at the same time, it's probably a bit cheaper to source them all yourself from Mouser, et. al.

People tend to look down on "kit amps." But at the end of the day, a box of parts from one place is the same as a bunch of boxes of parts from a bunch of different places. In the end, you still need to know how to build the thing.

I did Blueprint reading in CNC School & ive been to Electronics School and can read a Schematic. I was under the impression there were no diagrams, my mistake.

Plus there's the internet.

Order of assembly is important to keep redundant mistakes to a minimum.

 

[SpiderWars]

Someone stated when you buy Ceriatone kits there is no directions just parts.

That would be hard to pull off for anybody.

No, it wouldn't. Tube amps are extremely easy to assemble and work on. The ones Ceriatone tend to clone are very simple. The rabbitt hole is deep with theory but you don't need any of that to assemble a clone. They give you a layout showing where everything goes.

Someone who knows nothing about soldering, electronics, the guts of amps or order of assembly, working JUST from a layout, would have BIG problems assembling a Yeti or Chup. Don't make it seem that simple. With an assembly guide that specified the order of assembly, length of wires, etc. I'd say anyone willing to learn decent soldering skills could do it - without instructions, very difficult unless you know your way around an amp.

Steve

Fair point, but I didn't have most of those skills when I started and somehow built amps without instructions and often no layout. Not saying they were pretty but they worked properly. I guess I did read a couple of books so that helped. You can get the Ceriatone circuit board(s) preassembled/soldered.

I guess what I mean is, if you are smart/diligent enough to play guitar at a decent level then assembling a Ceriatone should be very doable.

 

[LP Freak]

Yes & no.

Thats like saying to know if a band sucks you have to play thru their gear. Or to know if a singer cant hit notes you have to use his mic.

People either have an "Ear" or they don't and most don't.


There are no absolutes when it comes to "modded" stuff.

I guarantee that amp of Steves would slay Dragons.

I don't think John does mods anymore for average folks.

I've owned both and I'd easily take any of the Cameron's I had.

 

[Chester Nimitz]

Well you got a good one now ...

That Suhr JMP of Steve's was just sooo damn good.

Ive heard lots of Suhr amps including the production models but none sounded like dat.

Amp gain in the clip was @ 11 o'clock, long way to go.

I recently last 2 days have been using my "Sat" switch on the KS Friedman ...glorious.

 

[Anonymous]

Someone stated when you buy Ceriatone kits there is no directions just parts.

That would be hard to pull off for anybody.

No, it wouldn't. Tube amps are extremely easy to assemble and work on. The ones Ceriatone tend to clone are very simple. The rabbitt hole is deep with theory but you don't need any of that to assemble a clone. They give you a layout showing where everything goes.

Someone who knows nothing about soldering, electronics, the guts of amps or order of assembly, working JUST from a layout, would have BIG problems assembling a Yeti or Chup. Don't make it seem that simple. With an assembly guide that specified the order of assembly, length of wires, etc. I'd say anyone willing to learn decent soldering skills could do it - without instructions, very difficult unless you know your way around an amp.

Steve

Fair point, but I didn't have most of those skills when I started and somehow built amps without instructions and often no layout. Not saying they were pretty but they worked properly. I guess I did read a couple of books so that helped. You can get the Ceriatone circuit board(s) preassembled/soldered.

I guess what I mean is, if you are smart/diligent enough to play guitar at a decent level then assembling a Ceriatone should be very doable.

Certainly it's doable, but it's gonna take some time to develop the skills, as it did for you and me. I would hate to see someone with no skills read what you wrote and buy the parts from Ceriatone for a Yeti and think they are gonna build it from a layout. They are likely gonna get frustrated and bummed. Better to start with a pedal kit, then do a simpler amp and then try something like a Yeti. Build some skills and limit frustration.

Steve

 

[LP Freak]

Well you got a good one now ...

That Suhr JMP of Steve's was just sooo damn good.

Ive heard lots of Suhr amps including the production models but none sounded like dat.

Amp gain in the clip was @ 11 o'clock, long way to go.

I recently last 2 days have been using my "Sat" switch on the KS Friedman ...glorious.

And if you ever played one you know that as you start raising the gain the Suhr mod starts to mush out.

 

[FourT6and2]

Someone stated when you buy Ceriatone kits there is no directions just parts.

That would be hard to pull off for anybody.

No, it wouldn't. Tube amps are extremely easy to assemble and work on. The ones Ceriatone tend to clone are very simple. The rabbitt hole is deep with theory but you don't need any of that to assemble a clone. They give you a layout showing where everything goes.

Someone who knows nothing about soldering, electronics, the guts of amps or order of assembly, working JUST from a layout, would have BIG problems assembling a Yeti or Chup. Don't make it seem that simple. With an assembly guide that specified the order of assembly, length of wires, etc. I'd say anyone willing to learn decent soldering skills could do it - without instructions, very difficult unless you know your way around an amp.

Steve

Fair point, but I didn't have most of those skills when I started and somehow built amps without instructions and often no layout. Not saying they were pretty but they worked properly. I guess I did read a couple of books so that helped. You can get the Ceriatone circuit board(s) preassembled/soldered.

I guess what I mean is, if you are smart/diligent enough to play guitar at a decent level then assembling a Ceriatone should be very doable.

Certainly it's doable, but it's gonna take some time to develop the skills, as it did for you and me. I would hate to see someone with no skills read what you wrote and buy the parts from Ceriatone for a Yeti and think they are gonna build it from a layout. They are likely gonna get frustrated and bummed. Better to start with a pedal kit, then do a simpler amp and then try something like a Yeti. Build some skills and limit frustration.

Steve

I think the Chupa/Yeti are more difficult than the SLO I built. The SLO was pretty easy to be honest. The PCB and the killer layout make the build pretty straightforward.

 

[SpiderWars]

Agreed, a Chupa/Yeti would be a bit much. But I still think a plain ole 4-holer is pretty basic. Or start with a tweed deluxe, something both easy and awesome. Too many novices have pulled it off.

 

[Chester Nimitz]

Well you got a good one now ...

That Suhr JMP of Steve's was just sooo damn good.

Ive heard lots of Suhr amps including the production models but none sounded like dat.

Amp gain in the clip was @ 11 o'clock, long way to go.

I recently last 2 days have been using my "Sat" switch on the KS Friedman ...glorious.

And if you ever played one you know that as you start raising the gain the Suhr mod starts to mush out.

And more noise pretty much standard with any amplifier.

I keep my gains typically between 4 & 6 [actual numbers]. There are EQ's and other things you can use.

My amps bottom end is tight as a Frogs ass underwater.

 

[Loudness250]

I guess he declared Martial Law, lol.

 

[Chester Nimitz]

 

[psychodave]

I believe this amp recently sold for over $3,000.

 

[Chester Nimitz]

Was that the "first" CCV or the first "Brad Era" CCV ?

The latter i believe.

 

[psychodave]

Was that the "first" CCV or the first "Brad Era" CCV ?

The latter i believe.

This was a Brad prototype.

 

[ejecta]

Cameron amps are absolutely nothing special unless you are susceptible to internet hype. It's really hard to believe people still talk about that thief and his amps.

 

[Zachman]

Cameron amps are absolutely nothing special unless you are susceptible to internet hype. It's really hard to believe people still talk about that thief and his amps.

Without exception, EVERY single player who's come into my shop and heard/played through my rig using the Cameron Atomica, and my Cameron modded Marshall SL w/ the High gain Jose mod has asked about ordering one, so that contradicts your opinion a LOT.

Just saying

 

[Chester Nimitz]

I hope you told them "no" ...

Did you explain the odds of actually receiving an amp after they send $$$ ?

 

[Zachman]

I hope you told them "no" ...

I offered to rent mine

 

[dooredge]