Cameron type amps

[Chester Nimitz]

 

[ejecta]

Cameron amps are absolutely nothing special unless you are susceptible to internet hype. It's really hard to believe people still talk about that thief and his amps.

Without exception, EVERY single player who's come into my shop and heard/played through my rig using the Cameron Atomica, and my Cameron modded Marshall SL w/ the High gain Jose mod has asked about ordering one, so that contradicts your opinion a LOT.

Just saying

I've had one and played several Cameron's and they are absolutely nothing special. What people who come into your store think compared to personal experience is really meaningless to me.

Even if they sounded like golden tone from heaven I'd never again own anything that thief had anything to do with. How people in good conscious have anything to do with him is mind boggling but then again I guess for some they'll over look a lot to have Marshall that's really a Boogie.

 

[Zachman]

Cameron amps are absolutely nothing special unless you are susceptible to internet hype. It's really hard to believe people still talk about that thief and his amps.

Without exception, EVERY single player who's come into my shop and heard/played through my rig using the Cameron Atomica, and my Cameron modded Marshall SL w/ the High gain Jose mod has asked about ordering one, so that contradicts your opinion a LOT.

Just saying

I've had one and played several Cameron's and they are absolutely nothing special. What people who come into your store think compared to personal experience is really meaningless to me.

Even if they sounded like golden tone from heaven I'd never again own anything that thief had anything to do with. How people in good conscious have anything to do with him is mind boggling but then again I guess for some they'll over look a lot to have Marshall that's really a Boogie.

Opinions: Some say, they're like assholes; Everyone etc.

I say they're like orgasms; Mines more important than yours, and I don't care if you have one.

 

[JackBootedThug]

Cameron amps are absolutely nothing special unless you are susceptible to internet hype. It's really hard to believe people still talk about that thief and his amps.

Without exception, EVERY single player who's come into my shop and heard/played through my rig using the Cameron Atomica, and my Cameron modded Marshall SL w/ the High gain Jose mod has asked about ordering one, so that contradicts your opinion a LOT.

Just saying

I've had one and played several Cameron's and they are absolutely nothing special. What people who come into your store think compared to personal experience is really meaningless to me.

Even if they sounded like golden tone from heaven I'd never again own anything that thief had anything to do with. How people in good conscious have anything to do with him is mind boggling but then again I guess for some they'll over look a lot to have Marshall that's really a Boogie.

bingo on the marshall that sounds like a boogie....imo

 

[Chester Nimitz]

Cameron amps are absolutely nothing special unless you are susceptible to internet hype. It's really hard to believe people still talk about that thief and his amps.

Without exception, EVERY single player who's come into my shop and heard/played through my rig using the Cameron Atomica, and my Cameron modded Marshall SL w/ the High gain Jose mod has asked about ordering one, so that contradicts your opinion a LOT.

Just saying

I've had one and played several Cameron's and they are absolutely nothing special. What people who come into your store think compared to personal experience is really meaningless to me.

Even if they sounded like golden tone from heaven I'd never again own anything that thief had anything to do with. How people in good conscious have anything to do with him is mind boggling but then again I guess for some they'll over look a lot to have Marshall that's really a Boogie.

Opinions: Some say, they're like assholes; Everyone etc.

I say they're like orgasms; Mines more important than yours, and I don't care if you have one.

 

[romanianreaper]

Cameron amps are absolutely nothing special unless you are susceptible to internet hype. It's really hard to believe people still talk about that thief and his amps.

I totally disagree with you but we all like different tones and you are certainly welcome to give your view. To me it has THE tone I always wanted back in the day.

I agree with you that he ripped people off and is a disaster. However, I don't think people should be slammed for owning one of his amps, especially since they were made it the past and he is doing nothing now. It is like if you owned an old classic Les Paul and got rid of it because you didn't like Gibson's business practices now.

Again, not disagreeing about the guy. The amp and the tone is what I'm talking about and just my opinion.

 

[Zachman]

Cameron amps are absolutely nothing special unless you are susceptible to internet hype. It's really hard to believe people still talk about that thief and his amps.

I totally disagree with you but we all like different tones and you are certainly welcome to give your view. To me it has THE tone I always wanted back in the day.

I agree with you that he ripped people off and is a disaster. However, I don't think people should be slammed for owning one of his amps, especially since they were made it the past and he is doing nothing now. It is like if you owned an old classic Les Paul and got rid of it because you didn't like Gibson's business practices now.

Again, not disagreeing about the guy. The amp and the tone is what I'm talking about and just my opinion.

 

[Luca79]

This thread remember me Vertex... without the refund part

 

[idnotbe]

btw....

when i hear CCV vs. Cameron modified Marshall from youtube, they seem very different amps.

CCV sound is something i've never heard and very modern, a bit of 7 string kind.
but Cameron modified marshall sounds still in M camp with aggressive / mesa-like low end.

is my hearing right, even in person?
i thought Cameron modified marshall (Jose & Aldrich) sounds really great, though CCV is what the heck??

 

[Chester Nimitz]

Yeah thats about right.

The Cam modded Marshalls sound like more of everything while the CCV sounds Beastly from another planet.

And the older the mod the better they sound IMO.

Cameron modded amps vary amp to amp quite a bit, almost every one ive heard sound a bit different.

Downside is they can lose the base Marshall tone when pimped out too much.

Friedman seems to enhance the base tone without losing the Marshall character of the amp more than any ive heard thats one main reason i chose him, that and he's reliable.

 

[idnotbe]

Friedman seems to enhance the base tone without losing the Marshall character of the amp more than any ive heard thats one main reason i chose him, that and he's reliable.

I agree Friedman is exceptional and i have a 2016 BE100.
But it cannot fulfill my taste perfectly and there are many things i want to change.

Then, i found Cameron modded M clips which sound more similar to my taste.

What can be the options?

 

[Jayy]

Friedman seems to enhance the base tone without losing the Marshall character of the amp more than any ive heard thats one main reason i chose him, that and he's reliable.

I agree Friedman is exceptional and i have a 2016 BE100.
But it cannot fulfill my taste perfectly and there are many things i want to change.

Then, i found Cameron modded M clips which sound more similar to my taste.

What can be the options?

CERIATONE YETI OR CHUPACABRA is a GREAT option! God, I just HAD to say that! Just couldn't help my damn self! That should help keep the shit stink stirred up for a while!

 

[ejecta]

Cameron amps are absolutely nothing special unless you are susceptible to internet hype. It's really hard to believe people still talk about that thief and his amps.

I totally disagree with you but we all like different tones and you are certainly welcome to give your view. To me it has THE tone I always wanted back in the day.

I agree with you that he ripped people off and is a disaster. However, I don't think people should be slammed for owning one of his amps, especially since they were made it the past and he is doing nothing now. It is like if you owned an old classic Les Paul and got rid of it because you didn't like Gibson's business practices now.

Again, not disagreeing about the guy. The amp and the tone is what I'm talking about and just my opinion.

Absolutely.... people have differing tastes in tone for sure. I get that but personally I can't in good conscious own anything Scameron had something to do with. I know some think that's stupid and some can justify it in their mind owning an amp of his as if it's been washed clean by being on the used market. A real mind bender is some people on this board who still have a relationship and support the piece of shit. In my mind you aren't far off from being one yourself.

 

[Jayy]

Cameron amps are absolutely nothing special unless you are susceptible to internet hype. It's really hard to believe people still talk about that thief and his amps.

I totally disagree with you but we all like different tones and you are certainly welcome to give your view. To me it has THE tone I always wanted back in the day.

I agree with you that he ripped people off and is a disaster. However, I don't think people should be slammed for owning one of his amps, especially since they were made it the past and he is doing nothing now. It is like if you owned an old classic Les Paul and got rid of it because you didn't like Gibson's business practices now.

Again, not disagreeing about the guy. The amp and the tone is what I'm talking about and just my opinion.

Absolutely.... people have differing tastes in tone for sure. I get that but personally I can't in good conscious own anything Scameron had something to do with. I know some think that's stupid and some can justify it in their mind owning an amp of his as if it's been washed clean by being on the used market. I real mind bender is some people on this board who still have a relationship and support the piece of shit. In my mind you aren't far off from being one yourself.

Exactly! And I refuse to argue with anyone who tries to defend him because they consider him a buddy, or for any other reasons. I don't care who does or doesn't like it or agree with me. Anyone who owns his amps and are happy with them is fine with me. I'm happy for you and won't judge you for it. You are free to buy what you want, but I won't own one.

 

[Anonymous]

btw....

when i hear CCV vs. Cameron modified Marshall from youtube, they seem very different amps.

CCV sound is something i've never heard and very modern, a bit of 7 string kind.
but Cameron modified marshall sounds still in M camp with aggressive / mesa-like low end.

is my hearing right, even in person?
i thought Cameron modified marshall (Jose & Aldrich) sounds really great, though CCV is what the heck??

I think it could be more about how the videos are recorded and who is playing on them than the amps themselves... In person, I don't find this to be the case.

I've owned a Cameron Jose, an Aldrich, a modded Standel and a CCV and I found them all very similar sounding. I know people are going to disagree with me, and perhaps it's how I dial everything, but when I got them up loud, I did not notice a distinct difference in them no matter how much I messed with the controls. Also, if I did dial one in different, I could match very closely by changing the settings of the other amp. The circuits of the Aldrich and Jose are very different, but the Jose and CCV circuits (except that the CCV has two channels) are very close, with the exception of the CCV having more options for the bright cap and some other options. The Jose I had actually had more clipping circuit options than the CCV on a rotary switch. If you like the way his amps sound, I think you'll like any of the three and not find them really radically different sounding.

With all these amps, the distinct sound is very saturated. They can be dialed in differently, but almost every clip you hear is very saturated because that is where (IMO) they shine.

Steve

 

[SpiderWars]

Absolutely.... people have differing tastes in tone for sure. I get that but personally I can't in good conscious own anything Scameron had something to do with. I know some think that's stupid and some can justify it in their mind owning an amp of his as if it's been washed clean by being on the used market. A real mind bender is some people on this board who still have a relationship and support the piece of shit. In my mind you aren't far off from being one yourself.

I bolded a part because in my mind, the amp was never dirty nor needed a washing. The amp is just a piece of gear, if it sounds good enough to command the high prices then so be it. A Blades amp doesn't get that kind of money used...because it is an inferior amp (and fugly as fuck). Both amps built by scammers.

Regarding MC; I don't know the guy and don't really know the details of what happened; even after reading multiple epic threads about it. He fucked over people and took their money, that I think we all agree on. But I don't know much more than that so I can't really speak on it. As for forum members who are still friends with him...sounds like he chose some pretty damn good friends.

Not that it matters, but I don't think I've ever SEEN a Cameron amp in person, much less played thru or owned one. So it's not like I have an agenda.

 

[ejecta]

As for forum members who are still friends with him...sounds like he chose some pretty damn good friends.

I'm not so sure I'd find someone a "good" friend who has the moral compass where there is no problem being friends with a guy who has a huge track record of stealing money and amps from people. There is nothing "good" about that.

 

[thesockmonster]

I don't get it.

If you were directly scammed by someone, you've got a dog in the fight. You were directly affected, and that sucks.

If you were NOT directly scammed, then you're an observer at best. Your comments are based on second-hand hearsay and reports. That's fine, but again, you're not directly impacted by the offense. You may be offended, and your sense of justice might be triggered, but that's it. Yes, probably a good idea to inform others so they avoid the scam, but for God's sake, it's a dead horse.

It's an amp. That's it. I almost GUARANTEE that if any one of us found a Cameron Mod/Build amp for a cheap price, we'd snag it. Why? Because it's freaking gear, and we're cheap bastards.

 

[Jayy]

I don't get it.

If you were directly scammed by someone, you've got a dog in the fight. You were directly affected, and that sucks.

If you were NOT directly scammed, then you're an observer at best. Your comments are based on second-hand hearsay and reports. That's fine, but again, you're not directly impacted by the offense. You may be offended, and your sense of justice might be triggered, but that's it. Yes, probably a good idea to inform others so they avoid the scam, but for God's sake, it's a dead horse.

It's an amp. That's it. I almost GUARANTEE that if any one of us found a Cameron Mod/Build amp for a cheap price, we'd snag it. Why? Because it's freaking gear, and we're cheap bastards.

I won't. Offer one to me for 10 bucks and see if I bite. Not happening. You are right, I was never directly affected, but my sense of justice and fairness is definitely triggered and that is enough distaste for me to not buy in or own one. Like I said before, I don't care who does or doesn't like it, that is how I feel about it. Others don't feel that way and that's fine with me and not my problem. Buy them and enjoy them.

You are right, it is just an amp. There are way too many other great ones out there. I don't need one of his.

 

[ejecta]

You are right, it is just an amp. There are way too many other great ones out there. I don't need one of his.

This times a billion.